LordsFire
Internet Wizard
No, it isn't.
Tell me you haven't seen the actual third world, without telling me you haven't seen the actual third world.
...Heading in that direction?
That'd be much fairer to say.
The Americas The Tyranny within Canada: Trade War and Collapse
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Tell me you haven't seen the actual third world, without telling me you haven't seen the actual third world.
...Heading in that direction?
That'd be much fairer to say.
Everything @mrttao said was true except for the 3rd world part.
-Genociding is definitely hyperbole, but they are trying to kill off a decent sized portion of their unproductive population.
-Economy is really not doing well, but that's fairly accurate of most places right now.
-and yeah, their situation is pretty bad.
mrttao
Well-known member
The UN has a list of definitions for what count as genocide.
replacement migration is explicitly on the list.
The UN insists this can never happen to white people and is only something white people did to non whites. but they still explicitly define replacement migration as genocide. so there is no hyperbole there.
UN also defines mass rapes as genocide too. so any western country where the 3rd worlders being imported are allowed to rape with impunity are engaging in 2 seperate forms of genocide concurrently
1. replacement migration
2. mass rape
actually according to the UN a 3rd one too. any country that forcibly takes away children from their parents to be reeducated is engaging in genocide according to the UN. (aka. any country that forbids home schooling, which is most western countries)
although I personally think this one is stretching the definition of the word genocide too much and disagree with them on that.
I think it is a serious crime but not every serious crime is genocide.
mrttao
Well-known member
I have seen actual 3rd world shitholes. You are just blinding yourself to how bad things have gotten.
It is a banana republic ruled by a set of oligarchs with fake elections. Who are genociding their native populace while replacing them with 3rd world barbarians.
Food price is through the roof, poverty is through the roof, genocide, rape, and islam is through the roof. The muslims run rampant in Canadia and are proactively protected by the govt while doing so.
Thread Title Updated!
Since Trudeau is out, I thought it best for the thread to have a name change.
Also I would like to show everyone a video I found.
Long story short it seems our northern neighbor might actually be pushed to the point of collapse when Trump places his tariffs in effect on the 1st of February, the housing market is the only thing keeping their economy inflated.
Also I would like to show everyone a video I found.
Long story short it seems our northern neighbor might actually be pushed to the point of collapse when Trump places his tariffs in effect on the 1st of February, the housing market is the only thing keeping their economy inflated.
TheRomanSlayer
American Imperialists are the New Untermenschen
Someone would have to attack the real estate sector, given that the majority of the buyers of real estate in places like Toronto and Vancouver are non citizens. Pop that real estate balloon and Canada could start collapsing. Trump might be hard pressed to deal with what remains of Canada if they fracture.
Doomsought
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Allowing foreigners to own vital infrastructure is insanity.
True,but we still are doing so.And would continue to do so till either normal politicians take over,God save us,or our civilization fall.
Considering current european politicians,including Poland....we are doomed,unless God mad miracle.But why should HE?
Going to leave Trudeau's speech here, and post it without comment. In case you are interested in what he has to say.
mrttao
Well-known member
I don't think that the relevant parts can be TLDR'd without losing the punch.
Basically saying to Canadians that we have to come together and weather this storm.
And to Americans that the tariffs are a bad idea, and will hurt both of our countries and also appealed to our shared history and friendship.
I think that his speechwriter really did good work.
I thought Castro's son stepped down as PM.
He is still on until they select a replacement for him.
I think these tariffs are dumb, and although there are some issues with the border, the flow of illegals and fent come from California ports and Mexico, not Canada.
However, for Canada's situation, the Trudeau government made Canada especially vulnerable to these tariffs. Any sort of infrastructure project that would allow Canadian energy exports to places other than the US were killed by the Trudeau government. Both European and Asian countries begged Canada for expanding our energy export infrastructure, and Trudeau shot them down because of muh climate or muh Natives.
So now Trump has Canada by the balls. The question is now, who's going to cry uncle? The Liberals? Or will they go for a quick election so the CPC is holding the bag and needs to look weak to Trump?
However, for Canada's situation, the Trudeau government made Canada especially vulnerable to these tariffs. Any sort of infrastructure project that would allow Canadian energy exports to places other than the US were killed by the Trudeau government. Both European and Asian countries begged Canada for expanding our energy export infrastructure, and Trudeau shot them down because of muh climate or muh Natives.
So now Trump has Canada by the balls. The question is now, who's going to cry uncle? The Liberals? Or will they go for a quick election so the CPC is holding the bag and needs to look weak to Trump?
KilroywasNOTHere
"BEEP!"
Are there any right wing Canadians that can get the sietch?
Circle of Willis
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This tariff war is so fucking stupid, and our headless government insists on making things worse with retaliatory measures that seem specifically tailored to piss Trump off despite our lack of actual leverage like singling out red states for countermeasures or threatening to shut off the power to northern states. Here is a map of all of Canada's pipelines:
You will notice that literally fucking NOTHING goes to eastern Canada without first going through the US, meaning that if Trudeau and Ford are genuinely sufficiently braindead to believe their own hype and turn off the taps to New York or Michigan or wherever - the Orange Man can plunge everything east of Alberta into frigid darkness in the dead of winter with a snap of his fingers. Importing foreign oil & gas to compensate for the Albertan taps being shut off would be both more expensive, and I don't think we actually have the infrastructure to get such resources out from our ports anyway. We are in this situation because of decades of braindead Liberal economic & green policy: Harper had plans to build the first energy pipeline that directly connected Alberta's resources to the eastern provinces, but guess who scrapped that shit to appease the green lobby & First Nations race grifters almost as soon as he got in.
Then there's the real and, I find, dangerously understated possibility of a Wexit. If Alberta secedes due to how much more heavily integrated their economy is with the Americans relative to even the rest of the provinces (again, see the pipelines map above) as well as their litany of historical grievances against exploitation by the Laurentian elites out east, we're completely fucked, and geography dictates they'll probably drag the rest of the west along with them while they're at it too. Canada has traditionally maintained a huge and well-equipped army relative to its population precisely to deter this sort of scenario, but the CAF has been allowed to rot into nothingness since the end of the Cold War and shipping most of our heavy weapons to Ukraine hasn't helped at all with that, such that an American incursion in support of Albertan secessionists tomorrow would most realistically not resemble Ukraine 2022 but Crimea 2014: handfuls of demoralized and poorly equipped Canadian troops in notoriously ill-maintained, barely functioning 20-30+ year old APCs and tanks (we still use a lot of M113s and Leopard 24As actually, efforts to upgrade have been slow & spotty like everything else under this cursed government) putting up token resistance before defecting or surrendering en masse to Polite OCP Men and their local sympathizers, no matter the orders from their largely un-battle-tested and DEI-poisoned officers.
And that's all before getting into how Canada realistically cannot find enough trade partners to compensate for a loss of American trade on anything resembling the good terms we had with the Americans previously (American trade represents 77% of Canadian exports and 63% of our imports, but only 18% of American exports and 14% of their imports). Yeah I'm sure Red China will be real happy to buy Canadian lumber at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts, instead of bending us over a barrel and exploiting the absolute shit out of Canada's resources at the lowest possible cost to themselves if we're dumb enough to open up (even more than we already have) to them.
God damn, I sure wish we had a government that didn't spend the past decade (and especially the 2021-24 period when they thought he'd never come back) shittalking the Bad Orange Man at every turn and which is now willing to burn what's left of this country to the ground in an attempt to avoid giving him the appearance of a W. They have done basically everything conceivable to make sure it's not possible for Canada to survive this century as an independent country, truly proof positive that you can build something cool over centuries and have it all be destroyed in a decade. And as I have said before, their efforts to appeal to a sense of Canadian nationalism are genuinely comical in light of their entire domestic record until a few weeks ago, you couldn't pay me to believe such dedicated globalists as Trudeau, Carney, etc. care a whit for Canada or see it as anything but a WEF economic/resource extraction zone.
You will notice that literally fucking NOTHING goes to eastern Canada without first going through the US, meaning that if Trudeau and Ford are genuinely sufficiently braindead to believe their own hype and turn off the taps to New York or Michigan or wherever - the Orange Man can plunge everything east of Alberta into frigid darkness in the dead of winter with a snap of his fingers. Importing foreign oil & gas to compensate for the Albertan taps being shut off would be both more expensive, and I don't think we actually have the infrastructure to get such resources out from our ports anyway. We are in this situation because of decades of braindead Liberal economic & green policy: Harper had plans to build the first energy pipeline that directly connected Alberta's resources to the eastern provinces, but guess who scrapped that shit to appease the green lobby & First Nations race grifters almost as soon as he got in.
Then there's the real and, I find, dangerously understated possibility of a Wexit. If Alberta secedes due to how much more heavily integrated their economy is with the Americans relative to even the rest of the provinces (again, see the pipelines map above) as well as their litany of historical grievances against exploitation by the Laurentian elites out east, we're completely fucked, and geography dictates they'll probably drag the rest of the west along with them while they're at it too. Canada has traditionally maintained a huge and well-equipped army relative to its population precisely to deter this sort of scenario, but the CAF has been allowed to rot into nothingness since the end of the Cold War and shipping most of our heavy weapons to Ukraine hasn't helped at all with that, such that an American incursion in support of Albertan secessionists tomorrow would most realistically not resemble Ukraine 2022 but Crimea 2014: handfuls of demoralized and poorly equipped Canadian troops in notoriously ill-maintained, barely functioning 20-30+ year old APCs and tanks (we still use a lot of M113s and Leopard 24As actually, efforts to upgrade have been slow & spotty like everything else under this cursed government) putting up token resistance before defecting or surrendering en masse to Polite OCP Men and their local sympathizers, no matter the orders from their largely un-battle-tested and DEI-poisoned officers.
And that's all before getting into how Canada realistically cannot find enough trade partners to compensate for a loss of American trade on anything resembling the good terms we had with the Americans previously (American trade represents 77% of Canadian exports and 63% of our imports, but only 18% of American exports and 14% of their imports). Yeah I'm sure Red China will be real happy to buy Canadian lumber at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts, instead of bending us over a barrel and exploiting the absolute shit out of Canada's resources at the lowest possible cost to themselves if we're dumb enough to open up (even more than we already have) to them.
God damn, I sure wish we had a government that didn't spend the past decade (and especially the 2021-24 period when they thought he'd never come back) shittalking the Bad Orange Man at every turn and which is now willing to burn what's left of this country to the ground in an attempt to avoid giving him the appearance of a W. They have done basically everything conceivable to make sure it's not possible for Canada to survive this century as an independent country, truly proof positive that you can build something cool over centuries and have it all be destroyed in a decade. And as I have said before, their efforts to appeal to a sense of Canadian nationalism are genuinely comical in light of their entire domestic record until a few weeks ago, you couldn't pay me to believe such dedicated globalists as Trudeau, Carney, etc. care a whit for Canada or see it as anything but a WEF economic/resource extraction zone.
TheRomanSlayer
American Imperialists are the New Untermenschen
People voted for the clown, not out of love for the LPC, but out of hatred for Harper. Not to mention that the NDP had also undergone a radical shift when Mulcair was replaced by Jagmeet Singh, and so the only thing that all the parties involved would now be competing for would be the Sikh vote, hence the recent influx of Sikh immigrants to Canada, plus some significant Hindus that arrive as well.
The real problem also lies with the First Nations lobby and their influence on Canadian politics, mostly out of their guilt trips from the crap that they endured from the Canadian government back in the late 19th to early 20th century. I can guarantee you that these First Nations peoples would easily end up taking a large bribe from the Chinese Communist Party if they could do so, since most of them would probably lean left, even if it might bite them in the ass in the long run.
I wouldn't be surprised if we already have Chinese spies trying to trigger some sort of political crisis in BC where they might be looking to secede from the rest of Canada if Alberta secedes, though Wexit is unfortunately not as popular in BC as it is in AB. They would be forced to go at it alone if they're physically cut off from the rest of Canada.
The real problem also lies with the First Nations lobby and their influence on Canadian politics, mostly out of their guilt trips from the crap that they endured from the Canadian government back in the late 19th to early 20th century. I can guarantee you that these First Nations peoples would easily end up taking a large bribe from the Chinese Communist Party if they could do so, since most of them would probably lean left, even if it might bite them in the ass in the long run.
I wouldn't be surprised if we already have Chinese spies trying to trigger some sort of political crisis in BC where they might be looking to secede from the rest of Canada if Alberta secedes, though Wexit is unfortunately not as popular in BC as it is in AB. They would be forced to go at it alone if they're physically cut off from the rest of Canada.
mrttao
Well-known member
It isn't a tariff "war".
Everyone put tariffs on USA gods. USA is the only country too fucking dumb to put Tariff's back.
Also, USA literally has the world center banking and central currency. Meaning when USA prints money the entire world has inflation. A lot of people died to make it this way.
The fact it has no Tariffs is beyond retarded.
Skitzyfrenic
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I think he was posting from a Canadian PoV.
It really seems like he's saying it's stupid because Alberta can just Wexit and the rest of Canada is extremely fucked.
At least that's my take away.