"TradWives" Triggering Unhappy Feminists

exactly so why is it so strange to you that women who historically were focused on the household find out that they actually prefer to keep hearth and home over going out and working 40 hours a
Because they don't? Like, are you seriously denying that women left the household in droves once they could?

The entire reason for this LARP is to stand out and show that you're not like the other girls in the hopes that someone will fall for you.
 
Because they don't? Like, are you seriously denying that women left the household in droves once they could?

The entire reason for this LARP is to stand out and show that you're not like the other girls in the hopes that someone will fall for you.
And now they are more depressed than ever. now they don't get to spend time with their kids. now they are trying to find men who earn more than they do and finding it harder and harder to land the man as competition increases over a smaller number of men who pass their standards. we will see how it shakes out I suppose. I am rather tired of seeing so many women who got shamed over having the priority of starting a family and not wanting to be the girl boss type. the few girls who were willing to say fuck the feminists I don't want a career I just want my man and a family are the happiest out of those I graduated with. the others ended up as a combination of sluts, blue haired feminists, deep into the LGBTQAIP2+, or lonely cat ladies.
 
Because they don't? Like, are you seriously denying that women left the household in droves once they could?
No?

It took decades of gradual shifting for that to happen, not a sudden 'women are allowed in the workplace now, so they've all decided to get jobs.' There are a lot of arguments that most of the movement that did take place are/were because of economic pressure more than personal desire.

Does anyone have stats on households being one or two income by income bracket?

The entire reason for this LARP is to stand out and show that you're not like the other girls in the hopes that someone will fall for you.
Every 'tradwife streamer' I've seen, which granted is mostly what's linked around here or my wife shows me, because I don't go looking for them, has already been married.
 
You have still not answered my question about whether you'd be a house husband.

And now they are more depressed than ever
Everyone is. We are a generation of drama queens. My grandfather was more cheerful during wars and famines than we are in the most prosperous era of human history.

If women actually preferred being a housewife to being a proper citizen worker, this thread wouldn't exist. It's basically just another of our long standing copes that women couldn't possibly prefer not to be our "tradwives", almost as bad as the Left's copes about minorities supporting their crazy causes. And it's goddamned cringeworthy.
 
You have still not answered my question about whether you'd be a house husband.


Everyone is. We are a generation of drama queens. My grandfather was more cheerful during wars and famines than we are in the most prosperous era of human history.

If women actually preferred being a housewife to being a proper citizen worker, this thread wouldn't exist. It's basically just another of our long standing copes that women couldn't possibly prefer not to be our "tradwives", almost as bad as the Left's copes about minorities supporting their crazy causes. And it's goddamned cringeworthy.
yes yes. clearly this thread only exists because women LARP a thing online to get men to simp over them. there is no difference between men and women. especially not in their goals. there is no reason anyone would rather spend time taking care of their home and family when there is money to be made to make GDP go up. clearly this is the equivilent of the dems wanting to keep the minorities voting D forever with gives.

alternately. people have preferences and should be allowed to pursue them so long as they don't hurt others. shaming people over following traditionally feminine roles is as bad as trying to shame someone over toxic masculinity when they hold the door or some other stupid shit. if women want a job they are free to get one. if women want to focus on family that is fine.

pretending that women can do everything at the same time is a lie that has harmed them. you have to make trade offs with what you focus on. if you choose family you will get passed over for promotion. if you choose career you will find that your kids went to a daycare then to school and then to college and now hold none of your values. hope that money was worth it.
 
clearly this thread only exists because women LARP a thing online to get men to simp over them.
Precisely. The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything, so I'll leave it out.

Empirical evidence is clear : Women don't like being housewives. The quicker conservatives accept this, the quicker we can stop embarrassing ourselves regarding women's issues. God knows we've already lost 70-80% of young women as it is.
 
yes yes. clearly this thread only exists because women LARP a thing online to get men to simp over them. there is no difference between men and women. especially not in their goals. there is no reason anyone would rather spend time taking care of their home and family when there is money to be made to make GDP go up. clearly this is the equivilent of the dems wanting to keep the minorities voting D forever with gives.

alternately. people have preferences and should be allowed to pursue them so long as they don't hurt others. shaming people over following traditionally feminine roles is as bad as trying to shame someone over toxic masculinity when they hold the door or some other stupid shit. if women want a job they are free to get one. if women want to focus on family that is fine.

pretending that women can do everything at the same time is a lie that has harmed them. you have to make trade offs with what you focus on. if you choose family you will get passed over for promotion. if you choose career you will find that your kids went to a daycare then to school and then to college and now hold none of your values. hope that money was worth it.

Heck I think if it weren't for complete automation, I think we'd see more men opting out of the corporate world. The idea of the breadwinner that works the 9-5 cubicle job is a VERY new concept relative to the span of human history we're talking a concept that is BARELY 100 years old compared to 6000-10,000 years of human history.

I remember my dad made me swear that I'd never work in a factory. Now? he's told me if I ever find a factory job that catches my hand go for it. MOST People want to feel like they accomplished something. Work with their hands, start a family ect.
 
The rest of your post has nothing to do with anything, so I'll leave it out.
Okay then. I'll cut out your irreverent points too then. you have personal experiences driving your idea that every woman's greatest desire is a career. I have encountered very few career oriented women. they aren't nonexistent and should be allowed to pursue careers when they wish. they are a minority and less common than career oriented men. saying that women who aren't career oriented are just LARPing is hilarious cope that ignores most women's primary motivations in life.

empirical evidence is clear. women in the workforce are generally unhappy and unhappy women make unhappy men. simple as.
 
saying that women who aren't career oriented are just LARPing is hilarious cope that ignores most women's primary motivations in life.
Strange thing, but I never actually said that. This is just a strawman you made up to avoid addressing my main point: that most women chose a career over being a housewife, and had entire social campaigns to get that choice.

It's "tradwives" who are the LARPers, and any Conservative thinking otherwise is just fooling themselves.
 
Strange thing, but I never actually said that. This is just a strawman you made up to avoid addressing my main point: that most women chose a career over being a housewife, and had entire social campaigns to get that choice.

It's "tradwives" who are the LARPers, and any Conservative thinking otherwise is just fooling themselves.
I would argue they didn't. we put them through a school system to push them to college and rack up a debt. the economy is such that it is mandatory to have 2 incomes if you are lower class. most women don't have the choice if they want to work or not. they must work and are unhappy doing it. if your whole arguement is we should give them a choice then fine I agree. we have pushed things such that starting a family is looked down on and arrived not at a point where there is a choice but instead where pressure is heavily applied for them to join the workforce regardless of how much they would prefer to focus on home and family.
 
The destruction of the unskilled jobs industry and the single breadwinner has been an utter fiasco. There is probably the biggest contributing factor to why birth rates are falling because most people simply can’t afford to have children anymore.

By the way, I don’t care who the breadwinner or the house carer is, just so long as a parent is at home to raise the children. Many stay at home fathers are crushing it out there.
 
Humans also can solve problems and innovate if need be. You have a machine putting something together it will do it the exact same way every time. You get humans to do it and they may come up with a way to actually speed up the process so they will gt done faster. This is especially good if you keep quality up.
 
The destruction of the unskilled jobs industry and the single breadwinner has been an utter fiasco. There is probably the biggest contributing factor to why birth rates are falling because most people simply can’t afford to have children anymore.

By the way, I don’t care who the breadwinner or the house carer is, just so long as a parent is at home to raise the children. Many stay at home fathers are crushing it out there.
It's deeper than that. Single breadwinner households is just not something doable for most of society with post-industrial economic and living standard expectations and especially not with modern welfare, social security and healthcare standards. It just can't add up, neither culturally nor financially.
Even historically it wasn't except for a small part of XX century in some places, but that's an artifact, not a norm to be expected.
The real aberration from history is that in most societies for most of history, in majority of population one or both of parents worked in or close to the house, instead of commuting to an office or factory somewhere far away for 8-12 hours a day, with obvious implications for the childcare question.
Seems like remote work or home business is more "traditional" lifestyle wise than the typical 9 to 5 job if you really think about it, while small farmers, naturally, have the most traditional one by any measure.
 
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