It still is not that easy. Yes he is the commander in chief, but there is a lot of things one must do. You can make a general sit at a desk, but if you don't have someone to replace them...
That’s completely ass backwards. You want your military to be there to protect against actual threats America does not have any enemies currently capable of invading America they are minor threats and you can even argue they aren’t threats to us but their neighbors. The Army’s job is to protect Americans and their rights not engage in pissing matches with the Chinese to protect Korea and Japan, not to square up with Russia to defend Eastern Europe not to stop Iran from threatening Israel. Those are nice to do if we can afford it but America comes first. Because those other things are charity they aren’t defending Americans rights but the rights of foreigners.
If we can take our country back without having to kill thousands or millions of people, that is a far more preferable option to me.
Yes I’m aware political appointees are bad you will have idiots who don’t know what they are doing and it will lead to an ineffective army that won’t be able to do the job the same. But the people there are saying that the officers are actually treasonous. Having a retard as a high level officer is bad, but better a loyal retard than a disloyal genius who is planning to backstab you.
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They are not fucking treasonus!!!!! At least the people I directly work under do not give a single fuck about domestic issues besides the amount they are forced too. They are focusing on trying to make sure we are ready for any war China or Russia drag us into....
Didn’t you say that the election before the last one is the last free one and from now on the democrats will take them all or was that someone else?
Wasn't me.
We are already spied on by the Chinese. Again China is already our biggest trade partner so we both have each other by the balls we have them tighter since we CAN be self sufficient if needed but it will hurt. Also we can’t be everywhere at once and that means we have to prioritize and sacrifice things. I’ll happily sacrifice Asia to China to save the American heartland it’s in the name the heartland it’s where our power comes from.
I did not say they are treasonous I’m debating with people who are arguing a few things and I’m saying IF they were right and those officers at the pentagon were traitors to the president Trump was an idiot to trust them and not get rid of them.
That Trump was too trusting of some people that he should have ousted, is a very common complaint about Trump from his own supporters.
WE WONT FUCKING SAVE THE US HEARTLAND IF WE GIVE ASIA TO FUCKING CHINA!
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Ok it was backle who said election are over we are a banana republic and big king who said the pentagon were traitors I think.
Giving Asia is not ideal and you can argue that we should abandon Europe and the Middle East first so we can free up forces to focus on conus and Asia. You can say it is our most important strategic area but even so it’s a large area far from us and the heartland actual America is still more important. But no our allies would understand that we can’t always help them in good times yes we will honor our commitments but I think NATO will understand if we can’t help Australia while in the middle of a civil fucking war. I mean the most they should expect is token help since guess what people did not expect Poland to help Britain and America fighting the Japanese since they were a little busy dealing with Nazis and Soviets. I don’t say ignore treaties Willy nilly but understand that you can’t promise someone else the moon when you need to figure out how to get food for yourself and your family and protect yourself against communist terrorists. In a civil war situation we lost most of our power there is no point in trying to plan for a way for Russia China or Iran to not profit off it. We just accept that as a loss and work around it do things like make sure those nations can’t influence America itself and ask for our allies like England and France to help take a load off our back and protect our allies around the world while we deal with the mess we have back home. That’s the best thing to do don’t allow foreign actors to influence our nation and ask our stronger allies to look out for our weaker ones for a little bit. It’s not perfect but that is the optimal strategy if you can’t avoid a civil war.
that isn't how this fucking works...
People hate that we do that, but we don't do it alone.
You jumped into a convo with me Bacle and Rocinte. Where we were talking about actual civil war. What actually is going to be happening in the next 10 years is more of the same maybe more civil disturbances and growing factionalism in America. Yeah in that situation it would be stupid to get out of Asia. We are however talking about a big huge conflict that takes out 1/4 of the world economy Americans don’t want to and might not be able to shoulder the rest of the worlds problems at that time and if our allies can’t even hold on for a little then they are worthless as allies.
Listen I did not say Australia was part of NATO I responded to Zach who said if we abandon one ally or a few during a time of great trouble that our word would be worthless and I said no that is crazy. If we had a good reason like a civil war then NATO nations like Poland Germany England France would understand if we abandoned Australia and other Asian nations to face the Chinese alone. The arguments being put here are the same kind of neo con ones that are against Trump and America first. I’m not advocating abandoning most of our allies in Europe or Asia now or in the foreseeable future. I’m saying if we suffer a major national disaster like a civil war or Yellowstone eruption or asteroid that wipes out a quarter of our people then no sane nation will hold it against us that we did not help them when China or Russia exploited them when we recover and try to rebuild our alliances.
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