Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News

All you are doing is showing the psychological remnants of Aussie's history as either convicts or prison guards.

Russia is a direct threat to the whole western world, as is the CCP, and you Aussie's are part of the West, and will get fucked just the same by a resurgent Russia or expansionist CCP.

Also, @Rocinante, I think this is interview is going to be a meme generator and make Tucker looks even stupider for falling for this to begin with.







The reaction faces and context that will come out of this interview are going to be a meme gold mine for a long time.

Those memes are fucking fantastic. Funny, and a legit criticism.
 


Also these ones were more timely...





My main takeaway from the history lesson was again that it's all Poland's fault for WW2.

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Everyone knows that the European Polish theater kicked off when Poland invaded Poland, but a surprisingly small fraction of the public has any idea that Poland also invaded Poland from the east.

Mock all you want but as you can see Big Kielbasa has taken down the previous meme picture so I had to rehost it.
 
Are you willing to send your money to Russia? Are you willing to go fight against the Ukrainians yourself?
Why would I? I'm not for either side.


I just think if you wanted to be the Global Cop, you wouldn't be screwing one side or the other, you'd be trying to set up a peace agreement, and enforcing it. (And if the US got some benifits for it, that'd be OK.)


What the US is doing right now isn't that. You've decided Russia HAS to be your Enemy, so you must do ANYTHING to destroy them.


It just..... Doesn't make any sense to me.


Frankly, I'm not even sure why we're arguing. I don't like Russia, it's a shithole, it just doesn't seem to be a threat to anybody but it's neighbours. Except nukes, but.....

The current US policy seems to be aimed at getting Russia to nuke you, while making enemies of everybody else you can find. Is this more "Controlled Demolition" of the US?
 
Why would I? I'm not for either side.
Then why do you speak in support of Russia's interests?
I just think if you wanted to be the Global Cop, you wouldn't be screwing one side or the other, you'd be trying to set up a peace agreement, and enforcing it. (And if the US got some benifits for it, that'd be OK.)
Russia is not willing to have peace without being allowed to conquer its neighbors by force. Thus, force is being used to stop it.

When someone decides to start a fight, the only way to stop them is to fight them until they decide they've had enough.

What the US is doing right now isn't that. You've decided Russia HAS to be your Enemy, so you must do ANYTHING to destroy them.
No, if the US was going to do 'anything' to destroy Russia, we'd have given the Ukrainians enough material and munitions to utterly bury the Russian military.

Putin openly longs for the days of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union's expressed purpose was to dominate the entire world.

The US didn't have to decide anything, some people decide they're going to be your enemies no matter what you do.
It just..... Doesn't make any sense to me.

Frankly, I'm not even sure why we're arguing. I don't like Russia, it's a shithole, it just doesn't seem to be a threat to anybody but it's neighbours. Except nukes, but.....
When you let an imperialist nation conquer its neighbors, then they have new neighbors. Then if they conquer those neighbors, they have even more new neighbors to conquer.

It's easiest to stop them at the first step, but unfortunately that time passed a good decade ago.

The current US policy seems to be aimed at getting Russia to nuke you, while making enemies of everybody else you can find. Is this more "Controlled Demolition" of the US?
Democrats control the White House right now, so yes, there's a lot of stupidity going on with US foreign policy right now.

Supporting Ukraine is not one of those bits of stupidity, trickle-feeding them material, rather than giving them enough to feed a decisive offensive, is.
 
Huh that wasn't my read of that statement.
"we should thank god they didn't let you in" could also be taken as a sign of respect. he could also be saying he thinks Tucker is smart and would be dangerous as CIA. I can see either read though.

overall interview wasn't too surprising. Putin held to his talking points so you either believe he holds them sincerely or he is good enough at holding to the propaganda points he espouses. Doubt this shifts the needle much in terms of support either way but it was good to hear at least.
 
Huh that wasn't my read of that statement.
"we should thank god they didn't let you in" could also be taken as a sign of respect. he could also be saying he thinks Tucker is smart and would be dangerous as CIA. I can see either read though.

overall interview wasn't too surprising. Putin held to his talking points so if you either believe he holds them sincerely or he is good enough at holding to the propaganda points he espouses. Doubt this shifts the needle much in terms of support either way but it was good to hear at least.
That's how I interpreted it. Context matters.
 
Now Tucker Carlson knows how ADHD gamers felt when they played through Fallout's the Lonesome Road DLC for the first time.

I'm not saying it's bad but...
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so what changed? Because you've gone from not interested to VERY interested pretty quickly relatively speaking.

Simple..I am of the belief that the American Empire must be defeated if the former West (and that also includes Americans) are to be free. The endless involvement in these wars is angering people who would otherwise have nothing against us. These wars are empowering our real enemies and pushing vast numbers of settlers and occupiers from the third world into our lands.

We are dominated by psychopaths who rule through endless chaos and ambiguity. They must be defeated and replaced.

Defeat in this war is one further step along the line of discrediting the current regime and bringing us to freedom and reality.
 
Then why do you speak in support of Russia's interests?

I'm not. I'm, as far as I can tell, speaking in the US's interests.

You speak of Russia as in Imperial power. That's missing a point, Russia isn't strong enough to be a meaningful one. The idea that as a nation conquers, they get more powerful, it's mostly bullshit.

The things that make an Empire strong are the people who Beleve in it. Not space, not numbers, some tech, but tech, like numbers and raw materials, advantages in that don't win wars on their own. Only willing, faithful men do that.



Russia doesn't have all that many really faithful men. Russia, for all your Fed posting bullshit, is weak. But, you're making those who survive stronger, and much more willing to kill you, so all good, I guess.



Good luck, and I hope you don't get nuked.
 

You are failing to understand some basic human psychology.

Bullies only respect strength. It doesn't matter if you're ten times his size, or if you have ten friends who are all gym bros.

If you have no willingness to use any of that strength, they'll push you around until either you've given them everything they want, or until you decide you are willing to use that strength.

Everyone in the world knows Russia is weaker than America. The Russians know it too. There's a reason they didn't try to start this shit under Trump, because Trump would have been willing to take decisive action.

But once Biden was in office, after the disgrace of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, Putin knew that the Biden administration would not be willing to respond if he moved on Ukraine.

So he did.

And now that he's committed, if he doesn't win, Russia will not just look weaker than America, which everyone already knew, but weak enough that mid-sized nations don't need to fear their military reprisals anymore. Putin himself will look weak internally, which may lead to people trying to coup him out.

So they're going to use force until they either run out of force, or it's clear that the stronger power, the USA, will weigh the scales enough to remove any chance of victory.
 

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