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Blasterbot

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And everyone, including you and me, think they are exempt from this flaw. It's just that damned lizard brain and how it shuts down rational thinking whenever our "perception of reality" is threatened.

It's why it's never a good idea to be dogmatic.
nope. I do know I am susceptible to it too. I am just an asshole with opinions on the internet. generally when commenting it is from that point of view with no expectation of persuasion. just me giving my opinion. I know it doesn't matter. I just also recognize that being silent because of that and constantly second guessing myself into indecision and being a milquetoast fence sitter who can't say something like cannibalism is bad or cutting off your kids balls for social status is wrong would be worse.
 

strunkenwhite

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Protesting isn't violence.
Violence is violence.
J6 had violence... by police to towards protesters.
The amount of violence may be overblown but to say the crowd didn't use violence or that said violence isn't directly responsible for the delay of the count is just ignorant. I'm sorry but there's no real sugercoating it. Those guys who broke through that window to access the building certainly committed violence, and nobody who climbed through that window can claim ignorance. For the people who saw police retreating when their positions became tactically untenable and took it as an invitation, I can understand if mob mentality takes over and you just push forward. But use your brain a little.

I mean, unless you were using the phrase "mostly peaceful protests" unironically this whole time?
 

Bigking321

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For the people who saw police retreating when their positions became tactically untenable and took it as an invitation, I can understand if mob mentality takes over and you just push forward. But use your brain a little.

The cops opened doors and waved people in.

That shaman guy was escorted the whole time and they let him set up all his photos.

The riot started when security fired flashbangs and rubber bullets into the peaceful crowd. Plus the government plants they refuse to admit the number of that were in the violent parts trying to get as many people as possible to act out.

They are sending the fbi after people that weren't even near the building.

The jury trials for j6 people have a 100% guilty track record because the jury pool in DC is so tainted and they refuse to allow change of venue.

J6ers only hope is to ask for a non jury trial and pray they get a judge that isn't completely corrupt. Like the one that threw the case out because the cop was on camera telling the guy to go in.

The blm riots that knocked down the white house fence and torched a security building and attempted to burn that church down was much worse but DC paid them several million as a apology for arresting people.

The double standard is insane and blatant.
 

Cherico

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The cops opened doors and waved people in.

That shaman guy was escorted the whole time and they let him set up all his photos.

The riot started when security fired flashbangs and rubber bullets into the peaceful crowd. Plus the government plants they refuse to admit the number of that were in the violent parts trying to get as many people as possible to act out.

They are sending the fbi after people that weren't even near the building.

The jury trials for j6 people have a 100% guilty track record because the jury pool in DC is so tainted and they refuse to allow change of venue.

J6ers only hope is to ask for a non jury trial and pray they get a judge that isn't completely corrupt. Like the one that threw the case out because the cop was on camera telling the guy to go in.

The blm riots that knocked down the white house fence and torched a security building and attempted to burn that church down was much worse but DC paid them several million as a apology for arresting people.

The double standard is insane and blatant.

You have a bunch of zoomers and youngers all watching this all noticing this, and since conservatives have much more kids their very much going to remember what was done to their families growing up. If their allowed to do it to you and yours then why not do the same to them?
 

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The cops opened doors and waved people in.

That shaman guy was escorted the whole time and they let him set up all his photos.

The riot started when security fired flashbangs and rubber bullets into the peaceful crowd. Plus the government plants they refuse to admit the number of that were in the violent parts trying to get as many people as possible to act out.

They are sending the fbi after people that weren't even near the building.

The jury trials for j6 people have a 100% guilty track record because the jury pool in DC is so tainted and they refuse to allow change of venue.

J6ers only hope is to ask for a non jury trial and pray they get a judge that isn't completely corrupt. Like the one that threw the case out because the cop was on camera telling the guy to go in.

The blm riots that knocked down the white house fence and torched a security building and attempted to burn that church down was much worse but DC paid them several million as a apology for arresting people.

The double standard is insane and blatant.
He isn't talking about those ones though. The ones that moved back from when they were breaking into the building, not being let in.
 

mrttao

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He isn't talking about those ones though. The ones that moved back from when they were breaking into the building, not being let in.
Oh that poor building, it was heavily injured. it was in critical care from all the violence it suffered.

Fact is, the only actual people harmed, were protestors being harmed police.

And the sheer quantity of fed agents in the crowd was mind boggling. And calls any building breakage into severe question.
 

Bigking321

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He isn't talking about those ones though. The ones that moved back from when they were breaking into the building, not being let in.
Edit: wait you're talking about security. My bad.

In that case Trump tried having the national guard there and to have more security but Pelosi and the people in charge of DC security denied the request and had less security there than normal and denied requests for more people for hours after the riot started.
 
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Zachowon

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Oh that poor building, it was heavily injured. it was in critical care from all the violence it suffered.

Fact is, the only actual people harmed, were protestors being harmed police.

And the sheer quantity of fed agents in the crowd was mind boggling. And calls any building breakage into severe question.
I was jist trying to clarify
Edit: wait you're talking about security. My bad.


In that case Trump tried having the national guard there and to have more security but Pelosi and the people in charge of DC security denied the request and had less security there than normal and denied requests for more people for hours after the riot started.
Yeah the security not the police outside.
 

IndyFront

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I'd say most of the police were just trying to do their jobs and most of the protestors were peaceful, it's just that both sides of the extremities - the pro-Police bootlickers and the extremists far-right - are dishonestly blowing both factors oout of proportion to try to fit a narrative
 

Terthna

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Megyn Kelly seems to neither understand Trump voters, nor who exactly comprised the majority of Nikki Haley's supporters (namely, Democrats and RINOs who didn't want Trump to get nominated as the Republican candidate, and will not vote for him in the general election regardless of what he does). If she's the one Trump picks as his Vice President, then it'll be pretty obvious he's learned nothing about not surrounding himself with disingenuous backstabbers.
 

Blasterbot

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Yup. Trump picking Nikki would be something that hurts his campaign. he would be better off picking a name out of a hat of eligible people in the country completely at random. most people don't care that much about VP. in his position his best bet is to do like Biden did and pick someone completely unpalatable to the RINOs and establishment that way they will be discouraged from removing him through unsavory means.
 

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If Trump picks Halley all of you better lick my boots and apologize for ever having the audacity of defending him. ("At least he is better than Biden" doesn't matter when he has placed the Democrats best friends back in charge of your political movement.)
If Trump picks Haley, Trump will probably be dead in a year or less. It's the ideal situation for the swamp.
Agreed, Trump dies Halley takes over and purges MAGA from government, DeSantis would be the only roadblock left in the establishment completely going back to business within the GOP.
 
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mrttao

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If Trump picks Halley all of you better lick my boots and apologize for ever having the audacity of defending him.
What about the ones of us who didn't?
I was in favor of DeSantis.
That too. you can't drain the swamp by just staffing all positions with existing insiders.
He literally was... the case was dismissed on the basis of the prosecution doctoring the evidence.
The woke cultists said "a little" evidence doctoring is no big deal, and that it was wrong for him to get away on a "technicality"

That said. the woke cultists are not 60% of the nation. what a joke.
Slightly over 50% of the pop doesn't even vote because they know both sides are turds.

That said. Trump did betray the nation in jan 6... he said follow me then just disappeared, he failed to actually do something, he could not even be arsed to issue a pardon to the peaceful protestors before going out of office thus they were illegally imprisoned indefinitely since then without access to their basic rights.
I would like to point out that trump surrounded himself with the swamp, and kept appointing swamp creatures because they flattered his ego. Who then gleefully betrayed him. And he didn't even bother giving a pardon to the jan 6th protestors before leaving office.

Meanwhile, DeSantis has been actually very effective in breaking the liberal cult in his state.

Also IIRC DeSantis was publically pro trump... but then trump started running attack ads against DeSantis (instead of against the liberals).

So, did I miss something? Did something happen that makes all of you suddenly villify DeSantis?
Both of these, as well as the jan 6th protestors. He didn't.
I am not too hot on trump. He is all talk.
But... the alternative is literally demons who want children raped and castrated.
I will vote for trump because the alternative is literally demons who want children raped and castrated.
But the guy is a gullible talker who surrounds himself with enemies who hate him, backstab him, and then brag about it
 
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49ersfootball

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I was a bit worried when Trump hired whoever this uhhh lady... I think so... is as one of his campaigns press people but I'll admit she seems really passionate about Trump's agenda and is doing an amazing job presenting it to the American people so they can decide.



- Trump will carry out the largest deportation operation in history!
- Ask for the death sentence for anyone convicted of human trafficking.
- Close the Department of Education and return all education standards to the States to decide.
- Return of School Prayer
- Criminalize Race Based Advantage Programs
- End the Affordable Care Act
- Ban gender affirming care for adults and children and ban any federal dollars for going to gender affirming care
- Propose a constitutional amendment to limit terms for Congress
- Deploy the Department of Justice to investigate the Biden Crime Family
- He will pardon all of the J6 Protestors and create a task force to investigate anyone to charged, arrested, or imprisoned them
- Increase penalties for underaged criminal offenders
- Strengthen Immunity for Police Officers (Uh oh this might trigger folks)
- Deploy the National Guard to patrol woke cities.
- Reassess US involvement in NATO and says every European country must pay the United States for protection... lulz
- Restore the "Wonderful" Travel Ban for Muslims
- HE WILL BUILD FREEDOM CITIES
- He will kill all e-vehicles and e-vehicle legislation... and see to replacing that with the DEVELOPMENT OF A FLYING CAR? :alien:
- Remove all limits on American natural gas exports.
- Drill baby drill for oil domestically.
- Tariffs of up to 60% on Chinese imports!
- Extend 2017 Tax Cuts Dropping Corporate Tax Rate from 21% to 15%.
- Push Congress to pass legislation for every American to have the right to conceal carry.
- Revoke any gun restrictions that seeks to inhibit a person owning a gun that's been passed recently.
- He Will Demand Europe Pay back all the money USA gave to Ukraine and use that money to recruit for the US Military.
- Take billions from private University endowments by taxing, fining and suing Universities, specifically Harvard, and create the AMERICAN ACADEMY, a free online college FREE OF WOKENESS that Employers will be forced to recognize as a Bachelors Degree equivalent.

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You do realize Congress will NEVER have term limits ever.
 

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Behind Massive Mail-In Ballot Push Is A Little-Noticed Executive Order


Targeted Registration?

Two proponents of President Biden's Voting Access plan, the ACLU and a coalition of progressive groups called Strengthening Democracy, produced their "Progress Report on Federal Agency Action to Promote Access to Voting" in March 2023.
The report details their assessment of how well 10 federal agencies are doing in implementing EO 14019 and what they must do to improve.

The report states that federal agencies should sign up new voters in the following ways: HHS should include voter registration in applications for health insurance under Obamacare; the VA should include voter registration for veterans who sign up for VA health benefits; Indian Health Services should help register patients using IHS facilities; the Education Department should include voter registration when students apply for federal student aid; and the Bureau of Prisons should work to register eligible convicts.

The report praised the Treasury Department for its efforts targeting voter registration efforts at "low income clients of its voluntary tax preparation clinics."

"They're targeting welfare agencies that serve predominantly left-leaning voters," Mr. Whitson said. "It's targeted voter registration, so you don't have to worry about turning out more Republican voters if you focus your efforts in places where the vast majority of voters are going to lean left."
 

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