China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Lord Sovereign]

So, a thought experiment.

If some of these muppets actually get a chance at their "Great Reset", how long do you think it would last? Because I'm of the belief things would go tits up quickly, thus rapidly accelerating the rise of Nationalism.

 

[PsihoKekec]

They believe they can crush nationalism forever, by resetting the society and molding to fit their ideal of eternal economic slavery.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

They believe they can crush nationalism forever, by resetting the society and molding to fit their ideal of eternal economic slavery.

I know, they want the boot stamping on a human face-forever.

 

[Cherico]

I know, they want the boot stamping on a human face-forever.

survaliance states are expensive, and when you destroy the economy you are able to afford it less and less. And the people who want this shit just do not have kids.

In truth I give it 30-40 years and then we get an incredibly violent civil war, then a brutal dictatorship then another civil war that's even bloodier, and after that people will have no pacience for this kind of fuckery.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

survaliance states are expensive, and when you destroy the economy you are able to afford it less and less. And the people who want this shit just do not have kids.

Not to the mention the amount of bureaucracy needed to maintain such a system would be denser than an event horizon.

This is actually one of the often missed critiques of 1984. Oceania would implode beneath the weight of its own bureaucracy.

They believe they can crush nationalism forever, by resetting the society and molding to fit their ideal of eternal economic slavery.

I mean, I get that, but isn't this essentially doing more of what was already causing the rise of populism?

 

[Cherico]

Not to the mention the amount of bureaucracy needed to maintain such a system would be denser than an event horizon.

This is actually one of the often missed critiques of 1984. Oceania would implode beneath the weight of its own bureaucracy.



I mean, I get that, but isn't this essentially doing more of what was already causing the rise of populism?

Sov you've met these people do they strike you as being smart?

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Sov you've met these people do they strike you as being smart?

Not quite "met" but have observed them. And no, thank god, they're thick as pig shit with more money than sense. The only reason they've got this far is because the general public is made up of rational human beings who can't fathom that anyone would be stupid enough to try this shit.

 

[Archmagnus]

A thing of beauty

 

[ATP]

I always ask people who belive that Wuhan virus is much worst then common flu,why both Sweden and Belaruss do not died yet.
My favourite answers :
1.Belaruss- they drink so much,that they are healthy.
2.Sweden - they stealed so much in 17th century from entire Europe.

 

[Bacle]

I always ask people who belive that Wuhan virus is much worst then common flu,why both Sweden and Belaruss do not died yet.
My favourite answers :
1.Belaruss- they drink so much,that they are healthy.
2.Sweden - they stealed so much in 17th century from entire Europe.

Have you looked at the per capita death rates for them?

Because from what I've heard Sweden got to this point by effectively letting the virus kill a lot of the truly at risk population, so they aren't as concerned about it now since the people most vunerable to it are mostly already dead, or have fought through it.

From a coldly pragmatic standpoint that is not a horrible way to have handled things, as it does preserve the economy and society better than lockdowns do, but at a very high price.

 

[Zachowon]

BTW. Reinfection is nigh impossible. 4 people out of all people in the world. 4 known Reinfection

 

[Arch Dornan]

Not quite "met" but have observed them. And no, thank god, they're thick as pig shit with more money than sense. The only reason they've got this far is because the general public is made up of rational human beings who can't fathom that anyone would be stupid enough to try this shit.

We can get pretty fucking stupid. It's how there's a crisis every year over something and someone's too bone headed to pull out of a lost cause.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Why Andrew Cuomo Is Getting An Emmy

Governor Andrew Cuomo is getting an International Emmy award and there are mixed feelings about it.

www.ibtimes.com

I sent elderly to die and got an award for it?

 

[Arch Dornan]

They must have cursed China behind their backs for the kung flu.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[Arch Dornan]

As it happened when the black plague existed so shall it happen again.

 

[Archmagnus]

an interesting take from a chinese scholar

 

[Lord Sovereign]

What with the vaccine looking to be coming out in a matter of weeks, how much longer do you think they'll be kicking this dead horse? Oddly enough, I remember towards the start of this year predictions of normality in Spring/Summer 2021 and these seem to match up with rumblings in government (at least, Britain's). I think there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

What with the vaccine looking to be coming out in a matter of weeks, how much longer do you think they'll be kicking this dead horse? Oddly enough, I remember towards the start of this year predictions of normality in Spring/Summer 2021 and these seem to match up with rumblings in government (at least, Britain's). I think there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Another 1-2 years, they can say it mutated and keep up the fear and paranoia

 

[ATP]

Have you looked at the per capita death rates for them?

Because from what I've heard Sweden got to this point by effectively letting the virus kill a lot of the truly at risk population, so they aren't as concerned about it now since the people most vunerable to it are mostly already dead, or have fought through it.

From a coldly pragmatic standpoint that is not a horrible way to have handled things, as it does preserve the economy and society better than lockdowns do, but at a very high price.

Yes,but if Wuhan was like black death or even spanish flu,both countries would arleady lost at least 5% of populations.Which they did not - which means,that Wuhan is something like worst flu.
And Well,they were mostly eldery people,which Sweden must pay retiring pensions.Just like all european countries.
I bet,that if that was possible,all european countries would create virus like Wuhan to help their budgets.
In Poland we even had joke in commie times about that - "popierajcie partię czynem,umierajcie przed terminem" - my translation - "support party and die before retiring".