China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Cherico

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Frankly the reason I am supportive of the lockdowns to a degree is exactly because of telework.
The majority of the IT industry could have gone 100% remote 10-15 years ago and there wouldn't have been any problem, the companies could have gotten away with paying a bit less in salary because of living expenses and a lot less in rents and useless middle managment Karens, but no, the management Karens have to justify their useless existence and the overly-social time-wasters need to be social somewhere where they have a captive audience.

TBH I think that a lot of the pro-lockdown people are still doing that because they don't want to deal with the office ever again.Now if the boomers understood that then the lockdowns would have been lifted long ago.

The trend for more remote and more freedom was there even pre-pandemic, but now it has accelerated, hopefully the mandates will force a lot of right-wing boomers to stop impeding it.

while I understand never wanting to deal with middle manangment assholes lockdown's really fucking hurt a lot of people like people who do resturant work, and hair dressers, and whole portions of the economy that require you to be physically there. Yeah I get it office work is a special kind of hell but its only a portion of americas economy and every thing else is needed to avoid great depression 2 electric boogaloo.
 

TheRejectionist

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Discovered this from alternatehistory.com

Get a load of this loosers

Brethern said:
So before I got distracted I want to get something off my chest.

I ran into an anti-vaxxer in real life the other day. Very much one of those left-wing anti mega corp anti-government types.

I won't lie to anyone, but honestly, at this point, I'm starting to think that the political scale needs to forget about the whole left vs right BS and focus only on pro-vax vs anti-vax.
Yes I completely agree. The antivax crowd in the Netherlands is an unholy alliance of rightwing extremists, hooligan fanboys, yoga hippy herbal tea women, Turkish/nMuslim fundamentalists, anarchists, Christian sects, and farmers who oppose environmental rules (they would be called rednecks if we would ever get a decent amount of sunshine). We got self-called ‘Germanic antivax warriors’ called Yousouf and Younes. It does not make any sense.


So good news. With the exception of Italy and Spain and Portugal, a whitepill is that we are AGAIN shown we are NOT alone.
 

Vaermina

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Well, now isn't that interesting.

The researchers found that a pair of hemp compounds — cannabigerolic acid, or CBGA, and cannabidiolic acid, CBDA — bind to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, blocking a vital step in the deadly bug’s path to infect people.

“CBDA and CBGA are produced by the hemp plant as precursors to CBD and CBG, which are familiar to many consumers. However, they are different from the acids and are not contained in hemp products,” van Breemen said.

“Our data show CBDA and CBGA are effective against the two variants we looked at, and we hope that trend will extend to other existing and future variants,” he added.


But don’t plan on smoking weed to ward off the illness.

“The benefit for preventing viral infection of cells must come from cannabinoid acids, which are heat sensitive and must not be smoked, or it would convert them to CBD and so forth,” van Breemen said. “So that wouldn’t work for the antiviral effect.”



This makes a lot of since; the precursor cannabanoids do have huge anti-inflamatory potentcy already, a lot of growers spend a lot of time and energy to get the precurors out of immature plants. However, that means a lot more waste plant, if you use normal mairjuana/hemp strains available to consumers.

This might be what people in the industry refer to as Rick Simpson Oil, which is a very price, high end product to produce, and messy as crap in the extraction.

However it cannot be heated, or it breaks down, so smoking it would render it useless, and mature flower plants have no real precursor left in them. it has to be taken orally, so as a sort of very thick and odd tasting syrup of a sort, or maybe a hard candy.
Hilarious update on this.


While CBD will help with it, any THC will prevent that help from occurring.

Which means anything that get's you high, is absolutely useless! :ROFLMAO:
 

Bacle

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Hilarious update on this.


While CBD will help with it, any THC will prevent that help from occurring.

Which means anything that get's you high, is absolutely useless! :ROFLMAO:
Yes, I detailed in other posts how the compounds on question are precursor cannabinoids you only really get from immature plants, how the compounds being heat sensitive means trying to smoke them makes them useless, and how the stuff they are talking about is what people in the cannabis industry call it Rick Simpson Oil.

So what exactly was the point you were trying to make?
 

Vaermina

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Yes, I detailed in other posts how the compounds on question are precursor cannabinoids you only really get from immature plants, how the compounds being heat sensitive means trying to smoke them makes them useless, and how the stuff they are talking about is what people in the cannabis industry call it Rick Simpson Oil.

So what exactly was the point you were trying to make?
Because this isn't that?

This is a discovery about it literally just straight up not working in anything that also has THC in it. Or working on anyone who has THC in their bloodstream.
 

Bacle

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Because this isn't that?

This is a discovery about it literally just straight up not working in anything that also has THC in it. Or working on anyone who has THC in their bloodstream.
Did you even read what I posted before trying to make this is into some sort of 'gatcha' post?

Your source says pretty much the same thing the one I posted did, that it's not THC which has anti-viral properties but CBD and some of it's precursor chems in immature plants which have anti-viral abilities.

Also, CBD is mostly sourced from hemp, not marijuana, and thus would only have a minuscule amount of THC in it, if any.
 

Rocinante

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Hilarious update on this.


While CBD will help with it, any THC will prevent that help from occurring.

Which means anything that get's you high, is absolutely useless! :ROFLMAO:
Umm okay, THC cancels it out. We covered how it's other cannabinoids earlier in this thread. How is this any kind of gotcha or good point at all? It's good info to have, if you were capable of adding said information with acting like a jackass.

You're all "Lol idiots the part that gets you high doesn't work and cancels it out!"

Umm... okay? And? It's a substance that can stop viral reproduction and all you have to do is laugh that it doesn't get you high? This doesn't even make sense.

This is like someone going "oh? You found a cure for cancer? HAH! IT DOESN'T EVEN GET YOU HIGH THOUGH!" And patting yourself on the back for winning an argument that no one was having with you. I guess it's easy to win against imaginary opponents. If only there was some sort of name for an argument like that....

Bacle's article points out clearly that it's not THC that does it. That it's other compound (cbga, cbda,) and that heat will stop those from working because it converts them to CBG and CBD.

No one is claiming that this is the same weed you'd smoke to get high off of.
 
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prinCZess

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No one is claiming that this is the same weed you'd smoke to get high off of.
In fairness, I think some people in the broader world are presenting it that way.
But I think that tends to be with humorous intent, because the idea of some Snoop Dogg motherfucker playing Xbox with a name like '420__xx__smokew33deveryday' being immune to Wuhan Flu due to their chronic chronic-consumption is fricken' hilarious.
 

Vaermina

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In fairness, I think some people in the broader world are presenting it that way.
Far Left librals were in fact presenting it that way.

Which is why this whole thing is so hilarious.

Because now we get to laugh at far left pot heads who keep going "it's totally medicinal!" as an excuse to get high.
 

Iconoclast

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Dr. Andrew Huff is claiming that Peter Daszak was working for the CIA:



Also, there's this:



Moderna and NIAID co-own the mRNA-1273 vaccine, and it already existed before we even received the sequence for the virus. Moderna is directly involved with the same people who did the actual gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
 

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