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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
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Newborn baby has coronavirus as UK cases soar to 820 and 11 dead
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Get born into the world but you get the virus.
Some of us are in employment positions and locations that make transmission risk rather high. Some of us also have family who are in the high risk catagories that we are having to worry about, and most of us don't have an entire fucking army base around us to help screen for this bug.
The response in SK and your base is NOT close to what most of us are facing.
So kindly stop trying to act as an authority on this bug and stop acting as if your situation is at all like what the rest of us face.
They do not shut down international travel, close schools, cancel the NBA season, and declare a national emergency for 'its just the flu'.
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As someone who has seen Mexicans work at Construction sites.......... The Chinese are rank amateurs in technical work ability compared to Mexicans. They actually impress me by all the shit they know how to do.
Edit: Oh yeah guys if your area doesn't have hand Sanitizer you can get Isopropyl Alcohol as a substitute. Remember Think Tactically and don't panic.
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Terthna
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As someone who's parents hired a contractor to remodel their house, who then hired Mexicans, and nearly ended up getting said house condemned in the process; I question how anyone could be worse than that. Seriously, they had to spend around fifty thousand dollars getting most of the stuff those jackasses screwed up fixed (including replacing a poorly installed horizontal support beam that wasn't actually supporting anything, and nearly led to the whole house collapsing), and there's still more that needs to be done years later.
I would assume that Mexicans, being a large population, include both competent and incompetent individuals among their number.
Some interesting perspectives:
www.quora.com
What happens if the coronavirus spread all over the world, and how do you stop it?
Answer (1 of 9): I'm not a scientist. Not even close. But I am a hypocondriac and I've been following the covid-19 virus since it emerged in wuhan in early December. Without causing too much alarm, it is way too late to stop the spread of this coronavirus. The measures that we are taking to iden...
Some massive holes in that reasoning:
Mutations, contrary to what it sounds like, do not necessarily make the virus worse. There is a "optimum zone" of severity and transmissibility for a virus to sustain an epidemic, and COVID-19 fits that description pretty closely. That's why there are much more lethal viruses, like ebola, that yet don't spread nearly as much, because they become too obvious and kill their hosts too quickly to spread as much as COVID-19 does. So if the virus was to mutate, its not necessarily making it worse, could be the opposite - become more benign, or get knocked out of the optimum zone otherwise.
Secondly, it ignores the main reason for all the delay tactics: healthcare system capacity.
All cases above the line are on their own, no hospital care for them because hospitals are overloaded.
Mutations, contrary to what it sounds like, do not necessarily make the virus worse. There is a "optimum zone" of severity and transmissibility for a virus to sustain an epidemic, and COVID-19 fits that description pretty closely. That's why there are much more lethal viruses, like ebola, that yet don't spread nearly as much, because they become too obvious and kill their hosts too quickly to spread as much as COVID-19 does. So if the virus was to mutate, its not necessarily making it worse, could be the opposite - become more benign, or get knocked out of the optimum zone otherwise.
Secondly, it ignores the main reason for all the delay tactics: healthcare system capacity.
All cases above the line are on their own, no hospital care for them because hospitals are overloaded.
I can only speak for the ones that build Apartment Complexes. They did a pretty great job.
They didn't do shotty work.
Edit just saw Marduk's post.
Terthna
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I don't think he understands that the Corona virus might require hospital care; he seems to be making the same assumption that a lot of people downplaying this are, that it's no worse than the flu, which most people self-treat.Some massive holes in that reasoning:
Mutations, contrary to what it sounds like, do not necessarily make the virus worse. There is a "optimum zone" of severity and transmissibility for a virus to sustain an epidemic, and COVID-19 fits that description pretty closely. That's why there are much more lethal viruses, like ebola, that yet don't spread nearly as much, because they become too obvious and kill their hosts too quickly to spread as much as COVID-19 does. So if the virus was to mutate, its not necessarily making it worse, could be the opposite - become more benign, or get knocked out of the optimum zone otherwise.
Secondly, it ignores the main reason for all the delay tactics: healthcare system capacity.
All cases above the line are on their own, no hospital care for them because hospitals are overloaded.
Confirmed cases inside China - 81,021 (18 new)
Confirmed deaths inside China - 3,194 (14 new)
Confirmed cases outside of China - 61,518 (9,751 new)
Confirmed deaths outside of China - 2,199 (424 new)
Mortality rates, age of death, and severity indicators remain constant. Please note that most of the numbers you hear bandied about are not actual data but rather the results of model runs.
Confirmed deaths inside China - 3,194 (14 new)
Confirmed cases outside of China - 61,518 (9,751 new)
Confirmed deaths outside of China - 2,199 (424 new)
Mortality rates, age of death, and severity indicators remain constant. Please note that most of the numbers you hear bandied about are not actual data but rather the results of model runs.
Terthna
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Also please note that China is probably falsifying their data, while the WHO is currently run by a man who was caught doing just that in his home country, and has lied on behalf of China several times. Not to mention the fact that the part of the WHO currently assigned to addressing the Corona virus is drastically underfunded, and understaffed.
Seriously; anyone with half a brain should not trust the statistics you're citing. At all.
Some people are taking this way to far.
Yeah I know, and I dont know what all I can tell you. If i did I would tell yall what I am allowed to.
I am in South Korea....how do you think I feel? The US Army here is constantly watching the virus to see what it is doing. So, look at it this way: The US Army is not quarantining an entire base because the surrounding area is infected. Hell, we cant leave the country because of civilians being infected.
I hate to say it, but people will die because of this. It will happen.
China is now trying to blame us for this, exactly as I predicted they would:
Beijing is Pushing a Conspiracy Theory That the US Army Brought the Coronavirus to China
As the crisis eases inside China, Beijing is trying to deflect blame and position itself as the world's coronavirus savior.www.vice.com
What seems like a small outbreak can quickly go out of control due to exponential spread. That's why all of Italy is under quarantine right now.
I take this thing very, very seriously. Which is why I sent this missive to my employer in response to a safety bulletin regarding the virus:
So, again, to recap, if you're one of the unlucky 1 in 5 infected who develops severe or critical COVID-19, this is what can happen to your body:
You know what they do to severe and critical COVID-19 patients? They intubate them and they give them barely-tested cutting-edge antivirals, antibiotics, steroids, antipyretics, decongestants, and basically everything they can to keep them alive, while also monitoring their blood and liver labs and blood pressure. It's like running a marathon. Doctors and nurses are getting sick with this shit, too, treating patients day and night and collapsing from exhaustion, while also maintaining nearly inhuman infection control measures.
- Bilateral viral pneumonia with ground-glass lesions visible on CT scans
- Pulmonary fibrosis and permanent lung scarring, all the way up to hemorrhagic necrosis of lung tissue
- Hypoxemia precipitating injury of all organs, including the kidneys
- Myocarditis precipitating myoglobinemia and acute kidney injury
- Liver injury
- Possible male sterility
- Autoimmune reactions/cytokine release syndrome
- Severe bacterial co-infections
- Neurological symptoms including cerebrovascular or medullary infection, leading to collapses and seizures
The exact mechanism by which SARS-CoV-2 causes all this insane inflammation is now known in great detail.
ACE2 normally converts Angiotensin II into Angiotensin 1-7, which, in turn, is a Mitochondrial assembly receptor agonist. The process has a blood pressure regulating and anti-inflammatory effect.
Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as a SARS-CoV-2 receptor: molecular mechanisms and potential therapeutic target
The virus uses ACE2 as its cell entry receptor, blocking Ang II from converting to Ang 1-7 and behaving as a MasR agonist. Ang II builds up, with a massive pro-inflammatory effect, damaging tissues and causing hypertension.
This is what I meant when I said weeks ago that the virus "dysregulates angiotensin".
For those who don't know what the RAAS system does, these vids do a good job of explaining it:
Most of the people dying of COVID-19 are not dying of respiratory issues. They're getting intubated, and they're getting sufficient air, and then, guess what? Heart failure out of the blue, and then they code in the ICU. Dead.
Anyone who is downplaying the seriousness of this virus does not know what they are talking about.
And those that are going crazy are making things worse. My job right now is literally watching the Virus! We are doing that because...guess what...I am in one of the highest infected countries!
So, should I point out past pandemics? Like we had a national emergency for H1N1. Yet guess what. It was just a flu. This may be stronger then the normal flu we are used to may hospitalize people. But guess what! The death rate is low as hell for this.
Also the base is not perfect. Someone with the virus went into our main Starbucks and PX on base...
My grandfather has cancer and is taking Chemo...how do you think I feel with him taking those at this time?
Also, I sit in a room and talk with people. If any of us got infected we all would. So we are extra cautious
Well, do you have data that contradicts this?
I have info that, if I find out where to get it and if it is unclassified. I would share it because it seems useful.
Terthna
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Arch Dornan
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