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Draco

Adida
Not in the literal sense, as much as she was the result of the Moon trying to yeet the Sun. So she would be about the same age as the Moon, just slightly younger.
Even so, her being born of the actions of a previously extant god still puts her in the second set in my eyes.
 

Have You Seen My Son

Well-known member
I would still say she should be among the Oldest gods, due to how extremely long she has been around and how early on her concepts would have emerged. One could definitely say she is among the first gods "born" to two others, though as it was an accident and so very long ago only she actually recalls. She isn't in the "middle" group, as that would make literally no sense for her to have come about so much later on. XD

Edit: What Naga said, pretty much. Yes.
 

Draco

Adida
She isn't in the "middle" group, as that would make literally no sense for her to have come about so much later on. XD
Well that is the big question, what kind of time scale are we operating on here, what's the timeline? Because being in the middle group doesn't necessarily mean being like a thousand years later, unless we're operating really long term for the time before the God Wars.
 

Grav

A confused leftist
Well that is the big question, what kind of time scale are we operating on here, what's the timeline? Because being in the middle group doesn't necessarily mean being like a thousand years later, unless we're operating really long term for the time before the God Wars.

Eldest are those who were before the creation of the world and participated in the creation of the world.

Middle Aged those who came right after the creation to the beginning of the God Wars.

Youngsters are those who were born with the creation of man.
 

Grav

A confused leftist
Also the timeline is their order of birth. So Azahiel is firstborn that's why he is first.
 

Have You Seen My Son

Well-known member
Well that is the big question, what kind of time scale are we operating on here, what's the timeline? Because being in the middle group doesn't necessarily mean being like a thousand years later, unless we're operating really long term for the time before the God Wars.

In the end, it seems to depend on the nature of the list itself.

If the list is "chronologically, who is oldest and middle and youngest", which it seems to be at least, then Viv and Shahrivar and Sahira are going to be among the very oldest among all of the gods without a doubt. This due to sheer age and how early on they appeared and such, and so the issue is generally solved as simply as that.

If the list had been broken down in "generations" among the gods, which it doesn't look to have been, then i can see where Viv might be put on the "second generation" category. In that case your thoughts would be right on the money, admittedly, though it would also be a very strange way to arrange the list as well. Because Viv would seem younger, but in reality would not be as young as her "second generation" peers.


Eldest are those who were before the creation of the world and participated in the creation of the world.

Middle Aged those who came right after the creation to the beginning of the God Wars.

Youngsters are those who were born with the creation of man.

^

Dat.

Viv would have come before the creation of the world, and based on her presence in the world would have likely helped make it along with the others gods of the time. So it seems our dear list maker has given us the answer! XD
 

Shipmaster Sane

You have been weighed
I would still say she should be among the Oldest gods, due to how extremely long she has been around and how early on her concepts would have emerged. One could definitely say she is among the first gods "born" to two others, though as it was an accident and so very long ago only she actually recalls. She isn't in the "middle" group, as that would make literally no sense for her to have come about so much later on. XD

Edit: What Naga said, pretty much. Yes.
playing devils advocate but considering the odd circumstances of her birth, and the vague timeline of the sun-plot, couldn't the moment of her dawning consciousness be a fairly open ended question? Who knows how long it takes a god to "coalesce", for example with Vaad, someone may have been looking at things with eyes or applying their thoughts to force before he existed as a distinct being.
 

Draco

Adida
Youngsters are those who were born with the creation of man.
Tauphys is before the moon.
Well then how does that work, because if I'm reading Tauphys' character sheet correctly he was born from a mass of dead mortals that were burned alive under the sun.

Also if we're going with age based on when a god's concept existed, then shouldn't Vaad be second-born? He's the god of Eyes and thoughts, and I'm pretty sure Azahiel is two for two on those.
 

Have You Seen My Son

Well-known member
playing devils advocate but considering the odd circumstances of her birth, and the vague timeline of the sun-plot, couldn't the moment of her dawning consciousness be a fairly open ended question? Who knows how long it takes a god to "coalesce", for example with Vaad, someone may have been looking at things with eyes or applying their thoughts to force before he existed as a distinct being.

At this point the question has been answered by our dear Mushroom God player and List-Maker. :D

But i shall play along with thiis instance of "devil's advocate"! Fufufu~

The stars would have long coalesced and Viv awoken before the world was made, that much is for sure, whilst the stuff from that far back was all written vague on purpose by everyone it seems. Because, really, other than the most basic dividing lines such as "before world was made" and "god wars", writing a rigid timeline of any kind (or trying to force it at this point) would cause a lot of headache and potential contention for everyone perhaps. Especially since the IC is up, and so we must all now go about on our adventures in this whirlwind ride of an RP! :)

It's probably one reason our dear list maker was asking all of us about this, i'd want to think. XD
 

Grav

A confused leftist
Well then how does that work, because if I'm reading Tauphys' character sheet correctly he was born from a mass of dead mortals that were burned alive under the sun.

Also if we're going with age based on when a god's concept existed, then shouldn't Vaad be second-born? He's the god of Eyes and thoughts, and I'm pretty sure Azahiel is two for two on those.

Lravitus is second because nothing could exist without growth.

I don't know how Tauphys would exist then.
 

Yukitama

Well-known member
Its less mortal and just life. Whether it's vegetation, animals, ect. Things grew, things burned. That's the sun for you.
 

Shipmaster Sane

You have been weighed
Well then how does that work, because if I'm reading Tauphys' character sheet correctly he was born from a mass of dead mortals that were burned alive under the sun.

Also if we're going with age based on when a god's concept existed, then shouldn't Vaad be second-born? He's the god of Eyes and thoughts, and I'm pretty sure Azahiel is two for two on those.
I suppose if I was mistaken about there being much of any lag between the source and a given God, Vaad should be quite near the begining, at least in his capacity as the literal and proverbial Eye, considering the first god was Kingly and possessed of both literal and metaphorical vision. The sun, if I recall, was quite associated with imagery of vision and contemplation, as well.
 

Have You Seen My Son

Well-known member
In all honesty, i wrote Viv's origins to be well before the Moon was chasing the Sun like a yandere gf around the "world" itself. I just left it vague sounding like a lot of people did with their stuff, if not everyone having done some funn "vague mythological stuff" for this.

Which as amusing as it is to imagine that chase sequence, the basic gist of Viv's origins was that droplets of the sun were cast off, the moon eventually moved by the droplets and that cooled them, and from that came the stars and Viv. :LOL:
 

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