United States The Glowie Infestation: No Longer a Fringe Excuse

Zachowon said:

With how some on the right see, they seem to think it is the only option we have left already

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That's because parts of the fringe Right want violence, want to make a real Friekorp, want to be able to brawl or gunfight in the street, and do not want to share a nation with anyone left of center.

They are the type who would say 'conservatives get the bullet too' if they got to the level of violence BLM and Antifa get away with.

It also happens that a portion of the fringe Right are also legit WS/WN types who see America as a 'white nation' and will not be satisfied till it is, and have no problem with embracing BLM/Antifa like violence because it helps thier 'race war' narratives.

Terthna said:

Two small problems with that plan; the media is doing everything they can to prevent us from even being able to refer to it as rioting, and the regressive left will never be fine with the cops/National Guard coming down on their goons. There is no way to win politically in this scenario.

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The media isn't something I'm concerned too much about here. This would actually help kill them off. And second, we don't care about the regressive left, we care about the silent local majority. They a) aren't seeing this through the media, but in first person, and b) will eventually suffer enough that they will welcome police brutality. Obviously, this is shit to those people, but if they don't want help, we'll respect their wishes until they do.

Abhorsen said:

The media isn't something I'm concerned too much about here. This would actually help kill them off. And second, we don't care about the regressive left, we care about the silent local majority. They a) aren't seeing this through the media, but in first person, and b) will eventually suffer enough that they will welcome police brutality. Obviously, this is shit to those people, but if they don't want help, we'll respect their wishes until they do.

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As I see it, they're still too scared of the regressive left to want help anytime soon. They will eventually reach a breaking point; but until that point, we're stuck sitting on our hands. Even then, the authorities are more likely to march with Antifa than stand against them.

Terthna said:

As I see it, they're still too scared of the regressive left to want help anytime soon. They will eventually reach a breaking point; but until that point, we're stuck sitting on our hands. Even then, the authorities are more likely to march with Antifa than stand against them.

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things will change when the pain of innaction is greater then the pain of action and not a minute before hand.

An interesting and balanced look

"Balanced."

When they're using..soyboys like this...my god.

Feds plz...literal pedo apologists on their payroll as snitches and influencers.

The Immortal Watch Dog said:

When they're using..soyboys like this...my god.

Feds plz...literal pedo apologists on their payroll as snitches and influencers.

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Well at least the feds have some one apologizing for them right?

Cherico said:

Well at least the feds have some one apologizing for them right?

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I suppose they need all the help they can get..

Jesus Christ though, the damage they're doing to their reputation and legitimacy is worse than even Waco and Ruby Ridge at this point.

"Child killers no more! Now they're kid friendly"

Honest, patriotic Feds must be depressed as hell right now, I honestly pity them because the work they'll have to do to unfuck this is gonna take the better part of a century if its even possible right now.

The Immortal Watch Dog said:

Honest, patriotic Feds must be depressed as hell right now, I honestly pity them because the work they'll have to do to unfuck this is gonna take the better part of a century if its even possible right now.

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Or we could just dissolve the FBI. Y'know, as it should've been done to begin with.

Urabrask Revealed said:

Or we could just dissolve the FBI. Y'know, as it should've been done to begin with.

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You'll get no argument from me..Except I would preserve their forensic and behavior sciences division. Completely remove their ability to enforce any law but act as a gigantic repository and lab for police precincts and stations and rural cops and lawmen who don't necessarily have the resources to do that kind of work.

That's about it...They shouldn't be allowed to investigate a god damn thing.,.just be the metaphorical IT department for cops

I'm OK with their role as spy hunters. Though their tools need to be heavily trimmed back so as to keep them off the citizenry.

The Whispering Monk said:

I'm OK with their role as spy hunters. Though their tools need to be heavily trimmed back so as to keep them off the citizenry.

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made two much smaller agencies,which must compete with each other.

Bacle said:

That's because parts of the fringe Right want violence, want to make a real Friekorp, want to be able to brawl or gunfight in the street, and do not want to share a nation with anyone left of center.

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Beats the heck out of allowing leftist street soldiers to have the monopoly on violence, while leftist politicians order worthless cops to stand down.

Bacle said:

They are the type who would say 'conservatives get the bullet too' if they got to the level of violence BLM and Antifa get away with.

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No need to be lurid. "Sit down, shut up, go back to watching your sportsball" is a lot more likely. In fact, when I look back at past anti-communist revolutions... they were nothing compared to the leftist regimes themselves. Pinochet, for example, only had to kill a few thousand communists to put his country in order.

Bacle said:

It also happens that a portion of the fringe Right are also legit WS/WN types who see America as a 'white nation' and will not be satisfied till it is, and have no problem with embracing BLM/Antifa like violence because it helps thier 'race war' narratives.

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A nation is not merely some legal jurisdiction or a set of borders, it is an extension of a people. America was founded as a nation, one of the first laws passed was stern immigration limits, allowing entry to white men and women of good character. Our constitution was explicitly labelled a posterity, and meant for its rightful inheritors, not interlopers and usurpers.

If you want to claim that "The United States of America" is nothing like that today, well, you're right. The United States of America ain't much. Having America back would be great, and would quite obviously be worth fighting for. Our founding fathers were willing to fight for self-government. The borders will be different, but that's fine -- what really matters is what's between them.

Whitestrake Pelinal said:

Beats the heck out of allowing leftist street soldiers to have the monopoly on violence, while leftist politicians order worthless cops to stand down.

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Only if you want to end up in prison for a while, or get stuck going through the shit Rittenhouse did.

Street violence solves nothing, and in case you hadn't noticed, it's people like DeSantis, Andy Ngo, and Project Veritas who are really being effective at combatting the Far-Left, not street fighters.

MLK accomplished what he did through civil disobedience and non-violence, because he knew the tactics people like you want to embrace feel good to the people doing it, but utterly undermine any actual momentum towards unfucking things.

But then again I don't expect a WN/WS like you to be able to understand the lesson MLK taught America about the power on non-voilent civil disobedience.

Whitestrake Pelinal said:

No need to be lurid. "Sit down, shut up, go back to watching your sportsball" is a lot more likely. In fact, when I look back at past anti-communist revolutions... they were nothing compared to the leftist regimes themselves. Pinochet, for example, only had to kill a few thousand communists to put his country in order.

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Pinochet should not be the example to look to, because that sort of thing will never be allowed in the US, Pinochet was not somebody to be admired no matter how many commies (and others he didliked) he killed, and he also was handling a much different nation.

Whitestrake Pelinal said:

A nation is not merely some legal jurisdiction or a set of borders, it is an extension of a people. America was founded as a nation, one of the first laws passed was stern immigration limits, allowing entry to white men and women of good character. Our constitution was explicitly labelled a posterity, and meant for its rightful inheritors, not interlopers and usurpers.

If you want to claim that "The United States of America" is nothing like that today, well, you're right. The United States of America ain't much. Having America back would be great, and would quite obviously be worth fighting for. Our founding fathers were willing to fight for self-government. The borders will be different, but that's fine -- what really matters is what's between them.

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Ah yes, the same WN/WS rhetoric that's been used a thousand times before to try to justify why the US is a 'white nation'.

The US has never been, and will never be, a 'white nation', and only WN/WS types want it to be.

Pinochet was absolutely someone to be admired if you're in a situation where you have no other choice but to destroy your republic to save its citizens.

Him and Aramburu basically embodied the benevolent dictator trope.

Im saying this as A South America. I would rather my home country have had two or three consecutive Pinochets than a single democratically elected Nestor Kirchner or his terrorist wife.

Any Venezuelan in the US right now wishes there was a Venezuelan Pinochet..

@Bacle don't lecture South Americans on South American history most of us who live in the US wish the military would drone strike parades to say nothing of what I heard so many of us demand Trump do during the "summer of love".

Bacle said:

The US has never been, and will never be, a 'white nation', and only WN/WS types want it to be.

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You're wrong...every American Nation is a white Nation, even Brazil.

The difference, the thing that makes the Americas superior to Europe is that whites created a series of cultures that could absorb anyone here and modify them and make them American.

It eliminated race as a central need.

But to deny that it was all kinds of whites setting aside their mutual racism against themselves to build a bunch of superior cultures that could absorb anyone is a little silly.

The whole meaning behind E Ploribus Unam is unification through culture.

But denying the genesis of that always seems self defeating and self hating.

What I'm going to say is generic, but look. I know we are desperate for any sort of validation and allies, but let's not leap before we look and cling to any and every group that remotely spouts nationalist rhetoric, ESPECIALLY if they are spouting points that check all of the media's boogyman boxes.

"Glowies" are a thing. That was litterally the whole plot and prominent warnings of 1984. I wouldin't even "Trust but verify." I would verify, verify again, and then verify some more, and THEN trust them. We can't afford to screw up.

KilroywasNOTHere said:

What I'm going to say is generic, but look. I know we are desperate for any sort of validation and allies, but let's not leap before we look and cling to any and every group that remotely spouts nationalist rhetoric, ESPECIALLY if they are spouting points that check all of the media's boogyman boxes.

"Glowies" are a thing. That was litterally the whole plot and prominent warnings of 1984. I wouldin't even "Trust but verify." I would verify, verify again, and then verify some more, and THEN trust them. We can't afford to screw up.

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Agreed. While I have occasionally wondered if the ‘glowies’ are merely a distraction while other actions are taken, I also don’t think we need to worry ourselves jumping at every shadow either.

DarthOne said:

Agreed. While I have occasionally wondered if the ‘glowies’ are merely a distraction while other actions are taken, I also don’t think we need to worry ourselves jumping at every shadow either.

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The best gift our biolumenscent friends have given us is how phenomenally unsubtle they are.

So until they learn how not to be caricatures chase not at shadows my friends. For they're overt, easily offended and ree the loudest

The Immortal Watch Dog said:

The best gift our biolumenscent friends have given us is how phenomenally unsubtle they are.

So until they learn how not to be caricatures chase not at shadows my friends. For they're overt, easily offended and ree the loudest

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just because some one has power and connections it doesn't mean their all that good at their job expecially since the FBI has never actually been an organization that actually values merit.