Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

Congratulations to Russia on Hitting the Goal of Ten Thousand Documented Losses of Heavy Equipment. Ukraine at the moment is just above 3100+ Losses in the Same Categories.

According to Oryx this includes:
1928 Tanks
1131 Armored Personnel Carriers/Armored Fighting Vehicles (BTR's and MTLBs etc)
2284 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (BMP's and BMD's etc)
233 MRAP's/Infantry Mobility Vehicles (Typhoons, Tigrs, Iveco Rys etc)
241 Command & Communication Vehicles
299 Engineering Vehicles
37 Self Propelled ATGM's
97 Artillery Support Vehicles
194 Towed Artillery Pieces
382 Self Propelled Artillery Vehicles
192 MLRS Vehicles
17 Anti-Aircraft Guns
24 SPAAG's
104 SAM Systems
29 Radars
31 Jammers/Deception Systems
79 Aircraft
81 Helicopters
7 UCAV's
200 UAV's
12 Naval Ships
2405 Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps



Bakhmut Update: Russians Still Making... Advances.



Increase in Previously Reported Purchases from Poland by Ukraine. Now its 150 Rosomak IFV's and 24 M120 Raks Self Propelled Mortars.



Two Different US Made Strykers Seen in Ukrainian Service, a M1132 Engineering Vehicle Variant with a Mine Roller and a M1126 Infantry Carrier Vehicle.



Russian MoD releasing a video of them reportedly using mine clearing systems against Ukrainian positions now.



United States to Provide Ukraine At Least Nine 30mm Gun Trucks for Short Ranged Air Defense. All the more interesting since the United States doesn't have anything like that in the current US Military Inventory.

Statements on Ukrainian and Russian Artillery Usage. That Russia fires three times as much ammunition was stated before but the overall totals for both sides increased from previous reports on the subject. Both sides maybe conserving ammunition for the expected Ukrainian Offensives in the Spring.



One of the Thirty British AS-90 155mm Self Propelled Guns Sighted in Ukraine For the First Time.



First Documented Loss of a Russian 1L119 Nebo-SVU VHF multi-functional radar.



Ukrainian Air Force Video Stating That the NASAMs Systems (of which Ukraine has eight apparently) has intercepted over a hundred cruise missiles and drones since their first deployment back in November.



Russian Su-25 Downed Over the Donetsk Region of Ukraine a Few Days ago, Pilot Apparently Ejected.

Husky_Khan said:

Statements on Ukrainian and Russian Artillery Usage. That Russia fires three times as much ammunition was stated before but the overall totals for both sides increased from previous reports on the subject. Both sides maybe conserving ammunition for the expected Ukrainian Offensives in the Spring.

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Honestly, the absolute Ukrainian shortage isn't artillery shells considering the outside supplies, but manpower, something no one really talks about outside of singleton stories. Russia couldn't have attacked at a better time when it comes to this.

lloyd007 said:

Honestly, the absolute Ukrainian shortage isn't artillery shells considering the outside supplies, but manpower, something no one really talks about outside of singleton stories. Russia couldn't have attacked at a better time when it comes to this.

Demographics of Ukraine - Wikipedia

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They could. In 2014 specifically. When Ukraine's army and security services didn't even begin to become something beyond a corrupt and FSB infiltrated joke. In 2022 they had 8 years worth of reservist veterans rotated through the eastern separatist skirmishes, which is something that Russia itself should have been jealous of. All these combat veterans are the main reason why Russia's strongest, initial attack was stopped despite so many thinking it won't be stopped so easily.
Meanwhile on their side the experienced separatists were thrown at fortified positions as still under-equipped distraction, mostly ground away by now from such treatment.

In the end, potential manpower is a non factor as of now. Both sides fight at a small fraction of their potential recruit pool, and are more supply\logistics limited than manpower limited, neither could turn even half their manpower pool into useful units with what's available.
Sure, if they really insisted they could get a million or few of half starved and half equipped light infantry somewhere near the frontline, but it would achieve little beyond massive PR loss, massive rise in marauding and massive rise in own KIA rate. Except for some desperate defense in depth such troops are kinda useless on a modern battlefield, and so they are not worth the burden on command, morale and logistics they would constitute.

Marduk said:

They could. In 2014 specifically. When their army and security services didn't even begin to become something beyond a corrupt joke. In 2022 they had 8 years worth of reservist veterans rotated through the eastern separatist skirmishes, which is something that Russia itself should have been jealous of.

In the end, potential manpower is a non factor as of now. Both sides fight at a small fraction of their potential recruit pool, and are more supply\logistics limited than manpower limited, neither could turn even half their manpower pool into useful units with what's available.
Sure, if they really insisted they could get a million or few of half starved and half equipped light infantry somewhere near the frontline, but it would achieve little beyond massive PR loss, massive rise in marauding and massive rise in own KIA rate. Except for some desperate defense in depth such troops are kinda useless on a modern battlefield, and so they are not worth the burden on command, morale and logistics they would constitute.

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It's more that the issue is Ukraine was already facing a demo crunch, and now a lot of the younger people have either fled, or are caught up in the war, and thus the next generation of Ukrainian children are not being born in the numbers they would have before, because more of the reproductive aged population is either A) not in the country and may not return even after the Russians are driven out, or B) involved in the fighting and thus not likely to be reproducing actively and at high risk of dying without children.

The international volunteers help a bit in this regard, as does the more advanced medical tech from the west, instead of what the Soviets left in Ukraine; however, the demographic damage is going to be lasting, even with a full Marshall Plan level rebuilding. To say nothing of the once productive farms fields now full of UXO; Ukraine may end up with areas like the Zone Rouge in France, just because of how many shells have been lobbed around.

The west needs to make sure Russia is on the hook for all this damage, all this devastation, and is made to pay for it for generations to come as reparations and international shame/sanctions, since the damage Russia is doing will last for generations.

Make this so this is the last time Russia invades a neighbor.

Bacle said:

It's more that the issue is Ukraine was already facing a demo crunch, and now a lot of the younger people have either fled, or are caught up in the war, and thus the next generation of Ukrainian children are not being born in the numbers they would have before, because more of the reproductive aged population is either A) not in the country and may not return even after the Russians are driven out, or B) involved in the fighting and thus not likely to be reproducing actively and at high risk of dying without children.

The international volunteers help a bit in this regard, as does the more advanced medical tech from the west, instead of what the Soviets left in Ukraine; however, the demographic damage is going to be lasting, even with a full Marshall Plan level rebuilding. To say nothing of the once productive farms fields now full of UXO; Ukraine may end up with areas like the Zone Rouge in France, just because of how many shells have been lobbed around.

The west needs to make sure Russia is on the hook for all this damage, all this devastation, and is made to pay for it for generations to come as reparations and international shame/sanctions, since the damage Russia is doing will last for generations.

Make this so this is the last time Russia invades a neighbor.

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You know I used to disagree, and think sanctions and shaming after the war is over is pointless and counter productive. But if Russia's shit really does cause poisonous no go zones where the land is dead. Then yes Russia should be held responsible and pay heavy reparations.

Bacle said:

It's more that the issue is Ukraine was already facing a demo crunch, and now a lot of the younger people have either fled, or are caught up in the war, and thus the next generation of Ukrainian children are not being born in the numbers they would have before, because more of the reproductive aged population is either A) not in the country and may not return even after the Russians are driven out, or B) involved in the fighting and thus not likely to be reproducing actively and at high risk of dying without children.

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True, but that's a long term economic concern, not a military concern for this war.
Ukraine may well be in NATO and EU before the children who may have been born now would even turn 18.

Bacle said:

The international volunteers help a bit in this regard, as does the more advanced medical tech from the west, instead of what the Soviets left in Ukraine; however, the demographic damage is going to be lasting, even with a full Marshall Plan level rebuilding. To say nothing of the once productive farms fields now full of UXO; Ukraine may end up with areas like the Zone Rouge in France, just because of how many shells have been lobbed around.

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Yeah, but again, long term economic problem, not immediate military one. Volunteers help more in terms of morale and expertise than their raw numbers.

On the other hand, due to the recent history of Ukraine being kept in relative poverty by their connections with "Russian world" and its systems of corruption and thievery, with brutal removal of that and some western aid very high levels of relative economic growth will be quite achievable if they have reasonable economic policy, at least until it reaches the GDPpc close to southeastern EU, which will help attract investment and returnees.

Bacle said:

The west needs to make sure Russia is on the hook for all this damage, all this devastation, and is made to pay for it for generations to come as reparations and international shame/sanctions, since the damage Russia is doing will last for generations.

Make this so this is the last time Russia invades a neighbor.

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Well, that's part of the reason for the certainly tough discussions about reparations that will happen after the war.

Marduk said:

They could. In 2014 specifically. When Ukraine's army and security services didn't even begin to become something beyond a corrupt and FSB infiltrated joke. In 2022 they had 8 years worth of reservist veterans rotated through the eastern separatist skirmishes, which is something that Russia itself should have been jealous of. All these combat veterans are the main reason why Russia's strongest, initial attack was stopped despite so many thinking it won't be stopped so easily.
Meanwhile on their side the experienced separatists were thrown at fortified positions as still under-equipped distraction, mostly ground away by now from such treatment.

In the end, potential manpower is a non factor as of now. Both sides fight at a small fraction of their potential recruit pool, and are more supply\logistics limited than manpower limited, neither could turn even half their manpower pool into useful units with what's available.
Sure, if they really insisted they could get a million or few of half starved and half equipped light infantry somewhere near the frontline, but it would achieve little beyond massive PR loss, massive rise in marauding and massive rise in own KIA rate. Except for some desperate defense in depth such troops are kinda useless on a modern battlefield, and so they are not worth the burden on command, morale and logistics they would constitute.

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True.They either should take everything in 2014,or not start any confict at all.
But - they are kgb.There must be SOME HIDDEN GENIUS PLAN.So,we should be wary,becouse when they act like idiots,it probably mean our coming Doom.

And,i only half-joke here.kgb should never be underestimated.

Back to really important things - Happy Easter !

Marduk said:

True, but that's a long term economic concern, not a military concern for this war.
Ukraine may well be in NATO and EU before the children who may have been born now would even turn 18.

Yeah, but again, long term economic problem, not immediate military one. Volunteers help more in terms of morale and expertise than their raw numbers.

On the other hand, due to the recent history of Ukraine being kept in relative poverty by their connections with "Russian world" and its systems of corruption and thievery, with brutal removal of that and some western aid very high levels of relative economic growth will be quite achievable if they have reasonable economic policy, at least until it reaches the GDPpc close to southeastern EU, which will help attract investment and returnees.

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Demographic problems tend to solve themselves in the long run if you don't meddle too much. Simply make things simple for young families to form, then let nature do the rest.

As for post war Ukraine, it'll probably get the money it wants for reconstruction, and I think Zelensky has a vision. If I recall, he's taking a bit of inspiration from Israel in how he'd like Ukraine to be.

New German Military Aid Package for Ukraine Includes Dachs Armored Engineering Vehicles, Zetros Trucks, UAVs and large quantities of 40mm Ammunition.



OshKosh M-ATV MRAPs in Ukrainian Service. They were among the dozens of MRAPs delivered last month.



Another Prisoner Exchange Took Place.



Article on the use of Mk 153 SMAW Rocket Launchers in Ukrainian Service.



Map of Recent NATO and Swedish Intelligence Flights Near Russia.

So the Russian neo-nazi's who took part in the beheading of a Ukrainian prisoner recently are appearently sharing more vids like this.

This is why people need to realize this war/invasion and the brutality shown by the Russians at the front are not 'isolated' incidents, this is part of the deeper part of the Russian cultural psyche and Putin's just the orc at the top.

Russia is a terrorist state, and should be a pariah on par with NK for generations to come.

BBC Reports on the Leaks State that a few dozen Special Forces trainers from various NATO countries were in Ukraine, at least during the February-March era of 2023. This includes aboot 50 from Britain, 17 from Latvia, 15 from France, 14 from the United States and 1 from the Netherlands.


Both Russia and Egypt have denied reports that Egypt's President al-Sisi was planning on supplying munitions to Russia secretly to avoid "problems with the West." The main munitions Egypt allegedly would've sent was 40,000 rockets. The plan was apparently not implemented. Egypt stated it was pursuing a balanced foreign policy and was one of the over 140 nations which condemned Russia's Invasion of Ukraine in the United Nations.


Serbia has Denied Supplying Weapons or Munitions to Russia and stated it has not and will not sell weapons to either side in the conflict. This comes in the wake of some of the leaks alleging Serbia has in fact supplied Russia with munitions. The leak also states that there is "political will" for Serbia to support Ukraine with arms. AFAIK some Serbian munitions have shown up in Ukrainian service but it could easily be filtered through third parties.


Now beyond the leaks...

Ukraine maybe facing serious constraints in its Air Defense soon due to lack of S-300 missiles and insufficent NATO Air Defense systems to inevitably replace the couple dozen S-300 systems that Ukraine has in operation.



A short thread on the Ukrainian Tank known as "Bunny" which was originally a Russian T-80BVM Main Battle Tank captured by Ukrainian forces in March of 2022 somewhere near Kharkiv. During its time in Ukrainian service it allegedly scored six "kills" of other tanks including a rare Russian T-80UM2. However it was recently disabled by 240mm mortar fire and the crew set fire to the tank before abandoning it so it wouldn't be recaptured by the Russians.



A Ukrainian FPV Loitering Munition Strikes a Russian Truck While Its Moving.



Ukrainians are Pressing Captured Russian T-62M's into service with their Territorial Defense Units. Previously it was shown in this thread that T-62M's were being converted into Armored Recovery Vehicles and the like but now they are apparently being prepped for combat duty as well.



United States is Planning on sending additional Abrams and Bradleys to Ukraine in the Near Future.

The Whispering Monk said:

I'll say this about the Russian warfighting psyche...If a human being is worthless as an individual...a puppy is worth less.

Sadly true for them. They've had generations under Communism to teach the average Russian this lesson.

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It is just a fucking animal no different from the 3 meat type sources that produced the parts that went into the doner, the bacon and the steak I ate today.

You can even argue it is less useful.

Then again, some people will believe any garbage and shed crocodile tears for any occasion, as long as they can ree about Russia and those evil, evil Muskals.

Getting away from the topic of dogs and shady commentators, on the anniversary of Moskva sinking, the video of missiles involved being launched was released:

Russian T-54/55 Allegedly Seen in Southern Ukraine.



Ukrainian Sources Indicating Russia Maybe Planning on Keeping Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Planet Employees at the facility forcibly, much like they did with the Chernobyl Staff.



Ukrainian FV103 Spartan and a MT-LB were Destroyed During Fighting in Bakhmut. The crew allegedly survived. First documented loss of the FV103 Spartan in the conflict. This one was apparently privately donated to the Ukrainian military.



Rest in Peace Lieutenant Nikita Lebedev who was a Platoon Commander in the VDV/Airborne Apparently he graduated from the Airborne Command School just last year. Killed near Kreminna earlier this month.



Eight Canadian Leopard 2 Tanks on there way to Ukraine.



Canada to send Ukraine 21,000 5.56mm Rifles and a few million rounds of ammunition.

Binkov recently posted a video about Ukrainian Air Defense or the Impending Lack Thereof.

At about 2:30 into the video he posts a graphic showing the estimation of how many Soviet/Russian air defense missiles Ukraine potentially has left. 150 S-300P, 25 S-300V, 10 Buk, 60 Osa and 650 SA-3/S-125 missiles. He also states the average S-300 battery has likely been firing seven missiles a month, the average Buk battery one missile a month, and Osa systems even less so and so far its been enough to keep the Russian Air Force at bay. They also estimated Ukraine still has some 25 (out of 32) S-300P Batteries (and 3 S-300V batteries) still in operation along with an estimated 10 Buk and 17 Osa batteries. Poland also allegedly gave Ukraine three SA-5/S-200 batteries recently but its unknown even how many missiles that system could utilize. Ukraine also likely has about six SA-3/S-125 batteries which likely have a more plentiful supply of missiles since that system is still more widely used.

To replace all of this, Ukraine is expecting 2 Patriot Missile batteries in the coming weeks, along with 1 SAMP-T Battery. They are already operating 1 Aspide, 2 Crotale, 1 Iris-T, 2 NASAMS, & 2 Hawk Batteries with 2 more Aspide, 3 more Iris-T, 6 more NASAMS and 3 more Hawk batteries to come within the coming months. Some of these Western systems, despite being more modern, also don't have quite the range in altitude or horizontal range as the Soviet-era systems.

There's also discussion of modifying Sea Sparrow missiles (of which the US apparently has some ten thousand in stock) into being used by Buk Launchers/Air Defense Systems.



Ukrainian HIMARS struck a vehicle workshop and logistical supply base of the 41st Combined Arms Army.



Domestic Manufacture of 120mm Mortar Shells in Ukraine.



Another Prisoner Exchange Took Place today. One hundred thirty Ukrainian troops returned home.



A Senior Sergeant from Russia's Pacific Fleet Anti-Submarine Aviation Forces was Killed Near Vuhledar, one of many documented casualties of Russian Naval Personnel Pressed into Service as Ground Troops serving with the once elite Russian Naval Infantry Brigades.

Husky_Khan said:

Senior Sergeant from Russia's Pacific Fleet Anti-Submarine Aviation Forces was Killed Near Vuhledar, one of many documented casualties of Russian Naval Personnel Pressed into Service as Ground Troops serving with the once elite Russian Naval Infantry Brigades.

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Unbelievable - doing the same shit, i.e. using - and wasting - trained sailors as PBI.
For some reason repeating 1854 - when there actualy was rationale for it - has become a staple of Russian military SMO.
A SNCO from an aviation ASW unit doing groundpounder stuff?
WTF?
What next? Boomer crews diverted into driving IFVs - or leading bayonet charges?

Buba said:

Unbelievable - doing the same shit, i.e. using - and wasting - trained sailors as PBI.
For some reason repeating 1854 - when there actualy was rationale for it - has become a staple of Russian military SMO.
A SNCO from an aviation ASW unit doing groundpounder stuff?
WTF?
What next? Boomer crews diverted into driving IFVs - or leading bayonet charges?

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Well Submarines are probably still presently useful to the Russian military. Other bits of the Russian Navy, clearly not so much.

There were also recently pictures published of dedicated tracked Arctic Vehicles being seen in Melitopol. This is because they probably came with one of Russia's dedicated Arctic Warfare Units, the 200th Mobile Rifle Brigade which was originally posted near Murmansk where the NATO border suddenly elongated.



To be fair, the vehicle is made for all sorts of difficult and harsh terrain, not just snowy arctic fields and Winter just ended but still.

Husky_Khan said:

near Murmansk where the NATO border suddenly elongated.

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I took a moment to work out what your sly innuendo means