49ersfootball
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Noticed the other Arab nations are secretly telling Israel to exterminate Hamas.
Israel 🇮🇱 State of Israel Thread
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to be fair they just dealt with Isis so the mood for such things is much lower these days.
Source? Or did I miss something in the thread?
1.Maybe he is leftist - but Izraeli general Yitzak Segev ,who ruled Gaza as governor once,agree with him.Just like Avner Cohen and David Hacham,who also worked there.Source: Fucking leftist journos crafting a narrative. I don't care about some leftist shill video with well cut soundbites.
>Jews
Doesn't even mean they are Israeli. And even if there are...
There are also Poles who are leftists and hate Poland, does that mean everything they say about Poland is true? Get some fucking grasp on reality.
Yes, keep talking about shit you neither know nor care about to shit on Israel while saying how much you don't care.
5 years earlier, there you go.
Sukhoi Su-27 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Everyone should do the opposite of what you say, and you should stop shilling your anti-Israeli bullshit.
2.Did they say that they hate izrael here? no,only that zrael helped create Hamas,becouse they hated Arafat.
Here,another proof:
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ.com
Andrew Higgins on how Israel's decades-long dealings with Palestinian Islamists reveal a catalog of unintended and often perilous consequences.
3.Yes,China buyed Su-27 and Su-30,and are making their copies now.about 1400 of all kinds were made or built,compared to 1000 J.10 made thanks to Izrael.
But you see - Su 27 was not made with USA help,and Moscov never was USA ally.If you really could not see the difference...
4.Dear friend, i would shill against Izrael if i advocated attack on them.When USA simply should stop caring which kind of pagans rule there,and do not support anybody there.
Unless they made Crusade,that would be good reason to spend americans money - to take Holy Land from all kinds of pagans.
No, the people who made this video are far left. As such, they have cut the video to suit their agenda (to hate on Israel) which also happens to be your agenda. If there are any facts there, they were twisted to do so. Hence nothing shown there can be trusted.
This one is better, but how you read "Israel helped to create Hamas" there puts you in the same category of people as the far left journos in bullshitting people.2.Did they say that they hate izrael here? no,only that zrael helped create Hamas,becouse they hated Arafat.
Here,another proof:
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas - WSJ.com
Andrew Higgins on how Israel's decades-long dealings with Palestinian Islamists reveal a catalog of unintended and often perilous consequences.web.archive.org
It explains how Israel tolerated the islamists in Gaza...
Back when they mostly cared about preaching and keeping their noses in religious studies, while the PLO was more radical than now, before it dropped their policy of wanting Israel destroyed.
And this is why its better, it takes care to blow the narrative you are trying to twist out of it, but guess you are as bad at reading as you are at writing:
It is a great example how you are as bad as leftist journos when it comes to Israel.
So why do you say it was the first modern plane China got when it wasn't, just do a stupid whining routine about a half finished fighter just because it was Israel?
It happened at the same time when USA and China were building a tank modernization program *together*, all legal and politically approved, so no wonder they could not be mad at Israel for selling some half finished project.
Jaguar Prototype Main Battle Tank | MilitaryToday.com
The Jaguar was a joint Chinese-US main battle tank project carried-out in the 1980s, with the intent of modernizing the Type 59 tank. However no orders for Jaguars were ever placed.
www.militarytoday.com
Every modern plane China has was made indirectly with USA help that let them buy industrial machinery to make it with and make money to pay for it in Deng era. How hard does one have to hate Israel to forgive the China lobby for everything they made happen to make a point that matters 50 times less than you think it does?
The intricacies of your diplomatic bullshitry do not matter to me. As i said, you are like commies in Cold War and in Polish-Soviet war, who were never portraying themselves as raging Soviet supporters, but only as "peaceful people" who are merely against supporting the side that fights the commies.
Which is again a similarity you hold with the leftist journos.
Thanks for reminding everyone you are our of your mind too.
Did they?
Did you read the article?
Look, with people like the PLO, there's giving up on the idea of destroying Israel for real, and there's postponing that goal for the moment.
49ersfootball
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During news segment with Fox News last week.
So,leftist agenda is my agenda,becouse i citated Izraeli general from their story?truly?
And they do not simply tolerated them,they supported them against Fatah.
Even if they only read Koran - Koran is about holy war against infidels.What they expected,except Holy war?
If they could not undarstandt that religious palestinians must be lways worst then secular ones,then they are idiots.
And, no,as long as there was Fatah there,there would be no islamists there.
The same like with Iraq - you remove Hussain? fine,you would get islamists.Becouse in muslim countries you could have secular tyrants,or worst islamist tyrants.There is no other option there.
USA helped China,too - well,that is argument.If they agree with giving Lavi to China,then you are right here,and we should blame USA,not Izrael.
About poish-soviet war bullshit you mentiones - soviets in 1920 after taking poland could take Europe,Africa and Asia.
Hamas,expect being izrael golem,is unable to take anytching.That is difference.
If you belive that being Christian is being out of my mind,then...well,i wish you good eternity with lord you choosed.
But,i suggest going back to God.Hell is not good place to live,althought you could choose it.You have free will.
So they didn't build them, they preferred a less militant organization over what was then more militant one that had Arab state support, quite reasonable.
Fatah were international socialists then, so it's picking one disease or another. No one needs your advice nor approval for their machiavellian politics, they are probably better off without it.
There are but you have no fantasy. You could have colonial governors for example.
Yes, USA went way too close with China in the 80's, and even if it was worth it against Soviets, they should have stopped when Soviets fell.
Part of that is that they let their partners trade with China too.
But now some people get angry at one of the partner for not being more American than America because it's Israel, and you are in desperate need of reasons to complain about Israel, so you grab whatever you can get.
It doesn't matter and means absolutely nothing who you thing could hypothetically do what, because it's completely wrong if nothing else, but even if it wasn't, it still wouldn't matter.
It's the gesture that counts, for purposes of determining who are you supporting, and your bullshit excuses that you are not supporting Iran, while you are doing the exact same thing communists in western countries did for the benefit of Soviets. If that's not support, then i don't know what is.
Well if you think its Christian to support Shia fanaticism, sure, hope God forgives willful stupidity.
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1.They preferred organisation made to support religion supporting jihad,and that was reasonable?
2.It was stupid,not machiavellian.Everybody knew what Koran teach.Secular muslims could be as bad as islamist,but not worst.
You could support secular dictators,but not islamists.
3.Why governor? King of Jerusalem who would remove all pagans from Holy Land is right decision.
4.Nope,if USA really let Izrael do that,they are responsible for China owning 1000 J.10 now.
5.Gesture matters? you are as bad as idiot Sanacja who died for England in 1939.Or,to be precise,run to Romania and leaved dying part to polish population.
In politics you must be smart,not noble.Gestures matter when you would die no matter what you do,not in normal life.
6.I support Holy Land for Chrystians,you support Izrael,becouse....well,you must have some reasons.
And, i simply say that USA should not help Izrael there,becouse,as long as they do not want to save Holy Land from pagans,there is notching there worth supporting.
And the other guys were revolutionary socialists who enjoyed Soviets support when those existed and actually fought more, so it was pick one shit organization or other. They picked the weaker one. It was the 90's, jihadists were not the big deal they are now yet, and Iran still wasn't liking the idea of supporting Sunnis.
At the moment the "secular" ones were clearly a worse threat.
Why not God-Emperor of Mankind? He would easily deal with all the politics with his powers.
And China has even better planes already, which they would not have tools to make with without the Cold War opening to China lasting way longer than it should.
Well speaking of being smart, you are complaining about allies of our allies, while supporting allies of our enemies, to help other allies of our enemies, who may not even need that help, so you're not, and you are trying to bullshit around that you're not supporting anyone with word games.
USA has their interests and deals with them and their governments, if you don't know or don't care or think they are not worth it, doesn't matter, you're not USA's president, those don't agree with you.
No,muslims beliving in Koran would be always worst thread,unless they were real commies.
And arabs there were not PolPots,but socialist-nationalists.
To be honest,best group you could have there.All others must be worst.
And,Izrael decided to choose Hamas instead.They do not have rights to complain now.
About allies - Izrael 2.0 is not USA ally,but parasite,and they keep attacking Poland no matter what we do or not.
They decide to be our enemies,so should be considered as ones.
Personally,i do not care who rule there,as long as they do not attack christians.
About gestures - you want us to support one pagans against anothers in Palestine,when we should either take it for Christians,or do not care at all.
P.S about USA as allies - they supported german party in last elections,so they are enemies now.If Trump come back and do not sell us to Moscov,then we could talk about alliances again.
Again, Israel (and everyone else tbh) will do better without your strategic advice, ok?
Yes, Israel in the end should kill both, but that's up to them to manage, not you, they have no obligation to do it exactly the way you would prefer.
No they don't, get off the internet bullshit, i know the kind of stuff people like you read.
Again, stop reading shitty sites.
Go take it then, good luck. You're not in XI century, you and three other crazies won't be taking Palestine for Christians, most of your fellow Christians would stop you, and tell you to fuck off with telling them what are they allowed to care about.
If only alliances had a time limit based on next election in both countries...
1.No,Izrael should made deal with Fatah when they still can.Now they are doomed,no matter how many palestinians they kill.
But - their problem,not mine.
2.suuure.You knew what i read.Since when you are God?
3.This site is fine,do not counting your shitty posts.
4.That is why i do not try anything - even pope support pagans now.
5.No time limit,but betreyal.USA betrayed their allies who ruled in Poland and replaced with german agents.
That mean - they do not need Poland as allies.That is all.
Again, your random ass advice and pronouncements of doom are worth less than nothing. If anything, they are good for reverse predictions, so Fatah is doomed and Israel should not make deals with them.
I hope so, they would be doomed if it was your problem.
Everyone knows you read garbage because the saying goes garbage in, garbage out, and you have been spilling garbage all over this thread since ages, and people don't make up this much pure garbage by themselves, so you had to get it from somewhere.
Or yours.
Again i refuse to give a fuck, and now that you said it, i care even less.
Doomdoomdoom.jpg.
Going to leave this right here!
49ersfootball
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Nice propaganda piece.
Now,Reality:
That is how it look like for christians there.
Palestinians could be doomed or not,do not matter now.If Izrael made honest deal,as Rabin wonted,they would survive.
Now,they choosed eternal war with muslim world - which they must lost.
Their problem,not mine.
About garbage - nice argument,i would answer with other,even better - your mother was hamster !
And why doom? Poland need defenders from Moscov and Berlin axis - and,personally i prefer USA.
But,iwhen they sold us to germans? we could kowtow to China,too.
I do not like it,but better bad overlords then extinction.
They would have gotten eternal war with Muslim world either way, for that is what the part of Muslim world interested in waging the war is doing, Palestinians are just like separatist mobiks for Putin, the lowest of footsoldiers for that war, while ironically "protecting" them is the reason for the war. The point of the war is that there should be no Israel in "Muslim lands", and no deal can make them stop being that.
And your father smelt of elderberries!
Imagine thinking CCP would care about us for any reason, they need technology, they will sell us to Germans even faster.