I haven't followed any news or this thread, so coming completely out of the blue here: is it true that Republican gains are much more disappointing than expected? That's what I saw here on the news at least.
United States 2024: United States Senate Dicussion Thread
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Yeah. I think someone here said it was looking like a reverse 2018. Dems maybe gain in the Senate but lose the House.
DarthOne
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Very much seems to be the case. The Democrats line about ‘democracy being on the ballot’ seems to be coming true…with them leading the charge against America.
Look, maybe I’m just in denial, but I refuse to believe that people of my state (Pennsylvania) would vote in another brain-addled moron into power. You’d have thought they’d have learned after Biden!
Look, brain dead is an attractive quality in a politician. I'd rather that than them have 'ideas' about stuff. Usually those 'ideas' lead to more problems. Look at Oz's 'ideas': "transing kids is A-Okay". "Gun control is something we need", etc. You can't complain about people wanting to trans kids based on a vote where both options were for it. What you could do is blame Trump for endorsing a candidate who wanted to transition kids.
As long as the GOP takes the house, it's not a loss. That's all that's needed to stop Biden.
Though I agree with this Washington Examiner article.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Please, let's hope DeSantis runs for 2024 and beats Trump in the Primaries. I'm so tired of Trump, and he seemingly just helps the democrats. Let's get someone younger, smarter, and more disciplined.
I'll vote for Trump in 2024 if it comes down to it, just as I did in 2020, but I can't fucking stand the guy. He puts himself above anything else, and I'm tired of it. He was rooting against Republicans simply because they said mean things about him, and he went on the attack against DeSantis just days before the election.
It's true that he's an ego driven buffoon. Just go away already.
I don't think Trump can win 2024. Trump candidates are losing right now. DeSantis can take 2024, though.
Now, I'm not optimistic about the senate at all, but this is not a devastating loss for the GOP. All they need to do is squeak out a house majority. Then in 2024 if Trump fucks off, they can take back the senate and presidency.
MAYBE, it we're lucky, the silver lining here will be people getting the message that Trump is holding the party back. We don't need the big spending "take the guns first, due process later," orange man to win. We can obliterate democrats with DeSantis.
Though I agree with this Washington Examiner article.
Choosing Trump over DeSantis for 2024 is political suicide
The biggest takeaway as Republicans limp to the finish line in the midterm elections is that former President Donald Trump is toxic and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is a winner. Choosing Trump over DeSantis for 2024 would be political suicide.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Please, let's hope DeSantis runs for 2024 and beats Trump in the Primaries. I'm so tired of Trump, and he seemingly just helps the democrats. Let's get someone younger, smarter, and more disciplined.
I'll vote for Trump in 2024 if it comes down to it, just as I did in 2020, but I can't fucking stand the guy. He puts himself above anything else, and I'm tired of it. He was rooting against Republicans simply because they said mean things about him, and he went on the attack against DeSantis just days before the election.
It's true that he's an ego driven buffoon. Just go away already.
I don't think Trump can win 2024. Trump candidates are losing right now. DeSantis can take 2024, though.
Now, I'm not optimistic about the senate at all, but this is not a devastating loss for the GOP. All they need to do is squeak out a house majority. Then in 2024 if Trump fucks off, they can take back the senate and presidency.
MAYBE, it we're lucky, the silver lining here will be people getting the message that Trump is holding the party back. We don't need the big spending "take the guns first, due process later," orange man to win. We can obliterate democrats with DeSantis.
DarthOne
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…As opposed to Fetterman and his socialist goons who will advocate for those same thing anyway.
No, he's braindead, he won't do anything! (No, he will because of puppeteering, but he looks safe because of the braindeadness). Look, he will vote in bad policies. So would Oz. You aren't stuck with Fetterman though! If Oz had one, you'd have to vote for a pro-gun control candidate every year. Look, I'd see this as electing Obama in 2012 vs Romney. Obama Obama Trump was a ton better than Obama Romney Romney.…As opposed to Fetterman and his socialist goons who will advocate for those same thing anyway.
strunkenwhite
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To which Abhorsen replies, "Yes, so why should I care which one of them wins?" edit: damn, I should have gone with Predictit…As opposed to Fetterman and his socialist goons who will advocate for those same thing anyway.
DarthOne
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Maybe, assuming that whoever gets put in after Fetterman gets the boot is any better. That and assuming that we won’t spend years if not decades cleaning up his mess like we have with Obama.
Airedale260
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Mastriano was never going to win. There’s a reason (actually several) that the DGA (yes, the Democratic Governors Association) and Josh Shapiro & Co dumped so much money into his primary -double what Mastriano himself spent, actually.
This and 1) the fact that Oz is a carpetbagger (he’s actually from NJ and basically was spending part of the year waiting for a house to be built for him), and 2) the fact that a lot of Republicans within the state were very wary of him given his stances on a bunch of issues. Whereas Fetterman is an ass who has never worked a day in his life (living off daddy’s money), but even so he’s still actually from Pennsylvania.
He's not a president, so you don't have to worry about his administrative state doing everything themselves, so I'm not too worried. As for being better than Oz, I don't know of any republican not better than him, even the RINOs.
I've listened to some honest lefties talk about him...like Krystal from Breaking Points. She's as much of a dumb lefty as it gets, but she's honest, and I am taking her word for it.
Which is pretty much what I said. He doesn't need to lead or make big decisions, or do much of anything other than fill a seat and vote for Democrat policies. Show up. Vote. Go home. That's it. That's all you need out of a senator. He's a blue vote, that's what matters.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
It's neck and neck while all sides double down from what I see.
strunkenwhite
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Well, the red wave hopium is clearly out of the question at this point. From what I understand the question is more whether the Democratic majority is 50 or 51 seats than if they get one, but even if Republicans get 51 it's a disappointment compared to historical expectations and what might have been expected before the campaign season started. So in that sense GoldRanger is right.
Sobek
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It would seem the american people have been thoroughly buck broken into voting for whoever the MSM says they should.
Fraud is likely, but if the Dems have voter fraud schemes big enough to ensure they can control midterms in so many states it honestly means the entire system might as well be useless for any sort of voting. The more likely explanation really is that voters have been turned into good drones who will surrender their freedom for safety because TV man says so.
And of course, I fully expect the GOP to use this to push the line that Trump is done and they should forget MAGA and instead go back to Mitt Romney and Bush politics. "We need to be moderates to win votes! All this extremists talk of 'free speech' and 'transitioning kids is bad' is just not gonna float guys! We need to compromise."
Fraud is likely, but if the Dems have voter fraud schemes big enough to ensure they can control midterms in so many states it honestly means the entire system might as well be useless for any sort of voting. The more likely explanation really is that voters have been turned into good drones who will surrender their freedom for safety because TV man says so.
And of course, I fully expect the GOP to use this to push the line that Trump is done and they should forget MAGA and instead go back to Mitt Romney and Bush politics. "We need to be moderates to win votes! All this extremists talk of 'free speech' and 'transitioning kids is bad' is just not gonna float guys! We need to compromise."
Sergeant Foley
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Expecting Lake and Masters to emerge victorious in Arizona
Fraud ain't likely outside of AZ. This has been a general meh around the country.
The republicans ran shit candidates, partially because the democrats campaigned for shit republican candidates in the primaries, and partially because Trump endorsed shit candidates. Abortion may have also played a factor.
Most of what people are concerned about other than inflation is local issues (like schools, trans kids, etc). So voting Blue nationally but red locally might explain other stuff as well.
Also possible is that a bunch of Republicans thought it was inevitable and so didn't bother voting.
Meanwhile, the Libertarian Senate Candidate for NH has a message:
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
BREAKING: 100 TRILLION BALLOT VOTES MAILED IN ARIVE IN ARIZONA DEMOCRATS WIN ELECTION
Sergeant Foley
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Doubling-down on Laxalt, Masters and Walker winning.