A Showcase for why modern Feminism is cancerous.

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An interesting listen as to why modern feminism is a sham. Daisey Cousens goes into her experience with feminism, why she left and why she thinks modern feminism isn't about women, that it's about money and social/political clout. Anyone else like to provide cases for or against?

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Additional summary as requested, Daisey talks about how modern feminists have done everything they claim men do to keep women down or subservient, attacking her till the point where she retaliated against the unlikeable cunt, Clementine Ford which resulted in Ford backing down because like all modern feminists, they may be able to dish it (and destroy people's careers/social lives in the process), they can't take it.
 
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Just look at anywhere they have power. Germany, UK, Sweden - women are literally getting raped, but because the rapists are from a group considered to be an "underdog," this is ignored, covered up, and they'll even go as far as to threaten victims with legal action should they speak up. Another example is how men identifying as women are pasting actual women in various sports, and anyone complaining about how they have an unfair advantage are shouted down. They are throwing women under the bus, yet claiming they are for women's rights.
 
Feminists care just as much about women as the KKK cares about white people. AKA not at all.


Like any hate group what their actually about is making other peoples lives miserable, power and money. Helping people isn't on that list, caring about people isn't on that list, making shit better isn't on that list. They use the same bullshit 'theories' to justify shitting on men that the Klan uses to shit on my people, and the exact same logic to boot.

Its just that the masks falling off and the normies are finally starting to get it very fucking slowly.
 
Feminists care just as much about women as the KKK cares about white people. AKA not at all.


Like any hate group what their actually about is making other peoples lives miserable, power and money. Helping people isn't on that list, caring about people isn't on that list, making shit better isn't on that list. They use the same bullshit 'theories' to justify shitting on men that the Klan uses to shit on my people, and the exact same logic to boot.

Its just that the masks falling off and the normies are finally starting to get it very fucking slowly.

That's actually not true.

What is true though, is that Feminists (and the KKK) are fighting for their view of what feminism (white race) is supposed to be. They don't want women to be raped and in a perfect world, those men, regardless of minority or majority, would be punished. Ignoring that is a political concession that they give to other members of their political alliance and as a means of denying their opponents leverage both against them and their alliance. It after all, wouldn't look too good if under a feminist regime, more women got raped by men than before said regime.

In regards to the women who they're hurting directly with their policies? Tough, because as far as feminists are concerned, she is the enemy. She is a collaborator. Not against any individual woman per say, but against the ideal women that feminists dream about. They won't call out those women in most cases, because it will backfire. Most women don't want to be career women; they want to have children and good husbands. Thus, attacking what most women hope to obtain is not a good look for them, even if it were accurate.

Instead, the feminists are better off focusing on women insecurities; the fear of being sexually abused, the fear of being ruled by a tyrant, the fear of physical danger, and children who are constantly in danger of their father. They then offer solutions that undermine the ideal woman by most standards. The insecurities they are addressing are real; it's the cure that's the poison.
 
Aside from what’s already been mentioned, feminists are trying to breakdown beauty standards

They look to be trying to do this with depictions of women in fiction, men are a bunch of horny basement dwelling nerds who need to “grow up” and accept whatever “realistic” uglification will be done to characters

Even Hollywood is in on it, I would be more understanding of choosing untalented women for roles if they were attractive, instead of their politics like with Brie Larson
 
Aside from what’s already been mentioned, feminists are trying to breakdown beauty standards

They look to be trying to do this with depictions of women in fiction, men are a bunch of horny basement dwelling nerds who need to “grow up” and accept whatever “realistic” uglification will be done to characters

Even Hollywood is in on it, I would be more understanding of choosing untalented women for roles if they were attractive, instead of their politics like with Brie Larson

it is the hight of arrogance to think that you can tell people who they can and can not be attracted to.

And the mind set required for this is not a healthy one either.
 
it is the hight of arrogance to think that you can tell people who they can and can not be attracted to.

And the mind set required for this is not a healthy one either.

Thing is, they redirect the issue by citing “realism” and having a sort of “diversity” of body types and physical beauty alongside a need for a fanbase to “grow up” and accept that somehow this will get more women who are of average looks to come

At least Worm made it so that even the guys were plain to ugly.....Eidolon may be amongst their most powerful superheroes.....but he averts actually looking good. And yes, I’m pretty sure Wildbow is an SJW somehow, otherwise he wouldn’t be using the Fallen and the E88/Geselleschaft as villains.
 
Thing is, they redirect the issue by citing “realism” and having a sort of “diversity” of body types and physical beauty alongside a need for a fanbase to “grow up” and accept that somehow this will get more women who are of average looks to come

At least Worm made it so that even the guys were plain to ugly.....Eidolon may be amongst their most powerful superheroes.....but he averts actually looking good. And yes, I’m pretty sure Wildbow is an SJW somehow, otherwise he wouldn’t be using the Fallen and the E88/Geselleschaft as villains.

Going into some one elses hobby and telling them how to run it makes "YOU" the asshole. You want to do something you like then create it yourself don't force what you like down other peoples throats.

Also I know your going to say their hippocrits and carl I know these people their fully aware their hipocritcal pieces of shit, this is just about power and controlling and hurting other people.

Their bullies using a cause to get away with being assholes, if SJWs didn't exist they would simply use another ideology to justify their sadism.
 
Aside from what’s already been mentioned, feminists are trying to breakdown beauty standards

Yes and no.

Yes, in that they want to undermine their more attractive counterparts of whom absorb the bulk of men's attention.

No, in that they themselves still want to feel beautiful. Nothing kills a feminist mentality faster than a man (a real man) telling them they're beautiful. That's really all they want to hear.

That's all this is. It's women fighting other women within their own hierarchy. It won't work. It appears to work, because women understand that it's something they're insecure about. No woman wants to be compared to someone more beautiful than she is. Just as men don't want to be undermined in their own sense of masculinity. What most women actually say when they agree with that narrative isn't "don't judge me based on my beauty" and rather "Don't make me feel insecure about my beauty", which is what most women can agree upon. So women, even most feminists, will agree that make-up is bad while they apply the "required" make-up for their shopping and "heavy duty" make-up when they expect to be in front of a camera or out on a date.

Once you define that you aren't out to make a woman feel insecure about her beauty, you can generally dispense with the "well, I don't judge anyone about looks" bullshit.

They look to be trying to do this with depictions of women in fiction, men are a bunch of horny basement dwelling nerds who need to “grow up” and accept whatever “realistic” uglification will be done to characters

I wish I could agree with you here, but I think we both know this isn't entirely true.

In regards to feminism and the portrayal of women; yes, what they're doing is atrocious, but let's also not pretend that comic books weren't primarily marketed towards an immature boy demographic. That's not wrong, but that same demographic grew up (or was supposed to have) and insisted that they be allowed to keep those same characters for their adult stories. So instead of having a 16 year old staring at a few dozen issues of scantly clad women because he's 16, you have men who are 36 staring at a few hundred issues of scantly clad women because he's a loser.

There needs to be a change in comics, so that boys can have their immature comics and grown men can have their more mature comics.

Feminists say that nerds need to grow up as a means of emasculation. It is not a point they make to help them, it is a point they make to shut them up. But society will also say that the point is...somewhat valid. Nerd culture needs to grow up. That's not easy, for many reasons, but primary counterforces to that are:

1) The industries around nerd culture don't want you to grow up, so they can keep selling you worthless shit to fill that empty void in your heart.
2) They can sell toys--yes, toys--to both grown boys and actual little boys. Even the "mature" ones are really just a form of a boy longing for true masculinity.
3) The more you focus on nerd culture, the less likely to spawn children you will be--and therefore the people who have children can keep selling you worthless crap so they can spend your money on their children.
4) Political Intersectionality, who want you to act as voting drones to pull for their policies that directly hurt you, but papers over your masculine insecurities.

Step One is for us to move beyond the immature stage of masculinity within our subculture. And I think it's something we've all struggled for a time to do. It has always been there I think. I remember growing older and wishing that games like Zelda would address more mature themes for me to relate to. They of course didn't, because Nintendo can't market that to kids. And the "mature" themes we were given by some game developers here in America wasn't so much mature masculinity as it was either distorted pieces of it or shadow aspects of boyhood.

Wider society won't allow nerds to keep what was originally made for children. As adults, we must establish heroes that are for adult men. Dramas that are meant for mature audiences. Feminists won't like it, but no one can address that as little boy nerd crap.


Even Hollywood is in on it, I would be more understanding of choosing untalented women for roles if they were attractive, instead of their politics like with Brie Larson

Hollywood never had your interests at heart. Their goal was to exploit it from the beginning, even before they went full SJW. They care about making money. They wanted to take your future away from you the moment they came up with the idea. The fact that they're now exploiting it for political purposes is just them having drank their own kool-aid.

They've actually done you a favor by showing how much they never gave a single fuck about you.
 
I wish I could agree with you here, but I think we both know this isn't entirely true.

In regards to feminism and the portrayal of women; yes, what they're doing is atrocious, but let's also not pretend that comic books weren't primarily marketed towards an immature boy demographic. That's not wrong, but that same demographic grew up (or was supposed to have) and insisted that they be allowed to keep those same characters for their adult stories. So instead of having a 16 year old staring at a few dozen issues of scantly clad women because he's 16, you have men who are 36 staring at a few hundred issues of scantly clad women because he's a loser.

There needs to be a change in comics, so that boys can have their immature comics and grown men can have their more mature comics.

Feminists say that nerds need to grow up as a means of emasculation. It is not a point they make to help them, it is a point they make to shut them up. But society will also say that the point is...somewhat valid. Nerd culture needs to grow up. That's not easy, for many reasons, but primary counterforces to that are:

1) The industries around nerd culture don't want you to grow up, so they can keep selling you worthless shit to fill that empty void in your heart.
2) They can sell toys--yes, toys--to both grown boys and actual little boys. Even the "mature" ones are really just a form of a boy longing for true masculinity.
3) The more you focus on nerd culture, the less likely to spawn children you will be--and therefore the people who have children can keep selling you worthless crap so they can spend your money on their children.
4) Political Intersectionality, who want you to act as voting drones to pull for their policies that directly hurt you, but papers over your masculine insecurities.

Step One is for us to move beyond the immature stage of masculinity within our subculture. And I think it's something we've all struggled for a time to do. It has always been there I think. I remember growing older and wishing that games like Zelda would address more mature themes for me to relate to. They of course didn't, because Nintendo can't market that to kids. And the "mature" themes we were given by some game developers here in America wasn't so much mature masculinity as it was either distorted pieces of it or shadow aspects of boyhood.

Wider society won't allow nerds to keep what was originally made for children. As adults, we must establish heroes that are for adult men. Dramas that are meant for mature audiences. Feminists won't like it, but no one can address that as little boy nerd crap.
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
― C.S. Lewis
 
You know, it’s kinda embarassing but in hindsight plenty of the anime/manga/light novels, even or especially the long running ones I got are fanservicey and somewhat chuunibyou

The fact that these are long running and can even be 10 years old and as such the teenage audience has grown up but there is still some expectation that odds are they’d still be reading them says something
 
You know, it’s kinda embarassing but in hindsight plenty of the anime/manga/light novels, even or especially the long running ones I got are fanservicey and somewhat chuunibyou

The fact that these are long running and can even be 10 years old and as such the teenage audience has grown up but there is still some expectation that odds are they’d still be reading them says something
What does it say?
 
What does it say?

That there are lots of people who don’t mind how it looks to others

Hell, same applies to guys who read Percy Jackson novels and its sequel, which is also “Young Adult” when odds are they’re already supposed to move onto more mature books
 

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