Alex Jones Trial/Lawsuits

[Blasterbot]

he defamed private persons not known public figure, he made these people infamous by his actions , that specifically and the nature of his lies are what made this outcome happen, I really don't see this as any kind of trend setting event

the only person he specifically named was an FBI agent years later. the media and randos on the interwebs and twitter do what you are describing all the time without repercussion as well. if this isn't a trend setting event the only thing that stands out is Alex Jones is a wrong thinker. I get that specificity isn't your strong suit but you gotta be a bit better if you don't want to catch a bunch of your fellow travelers in your net.
edit my bad he also showed a video of a guy who went on the news and named himself as well and agreed with his chat that the guy seemed like he was off in how he acted. wouldn't say he was a faker but the guy was definitely acting like a weirdo on the news in public.

 

[S'task]

how so, I know of no one that has done what Jones did who else has done what he has done?

Anytime someone with a large public platform uses the term "Insurrectionist" in regards to the Jan 6th rioters should qualify as libel and slander and be able to be sued by those labeled as such and receive payment. None of those arrested have been charged with Insurrection and the actions on Jan 6th don't qualify any under normal definition of "insurrection" either legal or colloquial. "Disrupting government business" has never been described by the media or government officials as "insurrection" when done by Left wing groups, who have regularly practiced disruptive "sit ins", nor was it a term used when left wing organizations actually bombed the capital building in the 80s.

So folks saying there is a clear double standard have a point. Alex Jones said sleezy things that likely do qualify as slander and libel; however, a nearly Billion dollar fine is well in excess of what is usually paid for these things, to the point that it is clearly not in proportion to the damage caused. Bear in mind, this is a fine in line with the 1990s Big Tobacco settlements, which involved a lot more malice, coverups, and long term damage than anything Jones did. It is well beyond a reasonable payment and is clearly not meant to be a payment to relieve injury, but to silence Jones. That's not what Libel and Slander laws are meant to be used for.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

Alex Jones was a knee jerking imbecile who let his irate motormouth land him in serious trouble.

But a nearly one billion dollar fine is far too severe. It should be maybe double digit millions at most. He needs a few nasty cuffs round the ears, not a mallet to the skull.

 

[Zachowon]

I mean, congress critters have called for violence and get away Scott free but Jones doesn't trust something and gers a billion dollar fine?

Also, isn't that against the 8th amendment?

 

[Zachowon]

we do have a problem with policing criminal acts of those in office this is a known problem with those that acquire political power, as for the 8th? just one party/victim this amount isn't beyond the realm of compensatory per head, Jones just targeted an inhumane number of victims and found out why you should stop with just one

Oh?
You really wanna go there?
What happend to Maxwell?
What about all the victims she covered for? Oh that's right noke of tje people who did any wrong were released.

We can also look at how many news agencies foe instance went after Kyle Rittenhouse.
Each if those companies total if he wins them all wouldn't even equal ANYTHING near what Jones has to pay.

AND THEY FICKING CALLED HIM A MURDERER.

Or let's talk about the man who ran down a parade and is most likely going to get away with it even if it was a terrorist action.


And the 8th still applies.
It is beyond his means to pay for it and is cruel and unusual punishment for what he did.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

If that happened jokes on them I really do have no money

That's ok, organs are worth a lot. I'm sure you will be able to pay off the debt.

 

[Zachowon]

1) I was agreeing with you on a point we had in common
2)Maxwell? (I'm thinking of that human trafficking recruiter?)
3) Ritenhouse is has the devil luck I hope he makes something of that but I'm not seeing anything good as of yet
4)I've heard he made something north 120 million last year, he can pay, not all at once but he can certainly make restitution.



what a sad thing to say

It made it seem like you wernt agreeing sorry for any mishap

 

[Sergeant Foley]

This is just dumb

Did y'all hear about Truss firing Braverman? Her government is imploding like Hochul and Whitmer's polling numbers.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

he defamed private persons not known public figure, he made these people infamous by his actions , that specifically and the nature of his lies are what made this outcome happen, I really don't see this as any kind of trend setting event

Look if you are justifying a billion dollar pay out for this then I don't think those are the real factors in your thinking. It's a punitive measure and no he can't and won't pay out.

heck, if you really cared about Jones facing some sort of real punishment, you should be aghast at this court case and that pay out especially as its made it highly likely to be thrown out, possibly with prejudice.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

the settlement per victim is not at all out of proportion Jones chose to make that many victim as to make this memorable, Oh he can pay and make a living his business pulled down north of a 100 million in one year, it's will take a while but with enough pills and merch being sold to his fans it shouldn't take more then a decade or more if his brand isn't killed outright. as for appeal that was always a possibility as civil protection against libel and slander have been knee cap but corporate lobbying over the decades, see Texas for the UR example of a state owned by corpos, with is hard limit of damages so low they can pay it just eh interest on a account

First off no one is claiming that he makes 100 million a year, in fact the claim is his total net worth is somewhere between $135 – $270 million since he started infowars 23 years ago. And even that is a number disputed by infowars and alex jones.

Alex Jones Net Worth

What is Alex Jones's net worth?

www.celebritynetworth.com

How Much Money Alex Jones Has Made Since His First Defamation Trial

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Even assuming that number came up over this issue if anything that makes long term viability even harder, not too mention how much would have to go to paying for the business and the new growth needed.

As for appeal its probably going to come from the trial itself not what he is charged under, especially considering how bad the judge herself acted and allowed him to be treated.

 

[Sobek]

the settlement per victim is not at all out of proportion

Shut the fuck up.

The entire settlement is a complete and obvious hit job on Jones. There is absolutely nothing to justify this. Union Carbide LITERALLY KILLED PEOPLE with a chemical plant disaster and even then, at the start of their suit the starting money they were asked for was 950 million (350 million at the time, in 1986) and they eventually got away with it for far, FAR less. Nick Sandman, one of the Covignton kids, got less than 275 million from CNN (likely around 150 million) and CNN was far FAR bigger and had a much stronger media machine to harass the kid. The people who literally started the opioid epidemic in the USA got less than that as a fine.

Jones hasn't really touched those parents in years. He hasn't made Sandy Hook a big news item in years. In the last 4 years the people screaming at him for it have spoken about it far more than he has.

This is a political hitjob and you need to be naive as fuck to think otherwise. Wake the fuck up.

 

[Terthna]

The entire settlement is a complete and obvious hit job on Jones.

And that's a good thing; well, according to people like Proxy at least. Keep in mind; you're not arguing with someone who can be reasoned with. You're arguing with someone who hates, and is bending over backwards to try and justify that hatred, as well as the actions taken against those whom they hate.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

okay we apparently didn't follow the same case Jones, killed his own chance of appeal on the merits of the case, just had to hand him enough rope and he did himself in, he only real ground is novelty of the size of the settlement in total and he might loose that outright due to just how many he ruined to line his pockets.

I get it you're maybe a fan? sorry buy some brain force show you support, but accountability finally caught up with him

Did you get that from the same person that said he makes a 100 million a year by any chance? There were plenty of details in the court case that can be used in an appeal, and he is going to have plenty of opportunities to appeal it. It's clear his defending lawyer was setting up for one though most of the trail.

And I am not fan of the man like you are. After all if he does manage to get it all thrown out with prejudice or even just pay a lot less, It will be because of logic like yours that allows him to do it. So really I am not a fan of his, but you might as well be one.

 

[Sobek]

a collection of thoughts in huirrry

1 don't like don't read.
2 yes a necessary hit job called accountability
3 eh there a lot of evidence in public record actually to justify all of this
5 whataboutism is not now nor has ever been a legal shield
6 who are the Covingtion kids?
7 yes he hasn't went after them as hard in years, oddly the whole time they've had him court he held off he hasn't been doing
the thing that landed him in court seems to be working as intended



okay we apparently didn't follow the same case Jones, killed his own chance of appeal on the merits of the case, just had to hand him enough rope and he did himself in, he only real ground is novelty of the size of the settlement in total and he might loose that outright due to just how many he ruined to line his pockets.

I get it you're maybe a fan? sorry buy some brain force show you support, but accountability finally caught up with him

None of this justifies the absurd price tag. You have done fuck all to justify it. You cannot justify it, because there is no logical reason Jones should have to pay a billion dollars when the precedents for these types of suits show not only much smaller sums even in cases where the people doing the libel were going much further and had way more power to push it than Jones.

It would have taken 10 seconds to google Covington Kids. If you can't be bothered, I don't care.

I sure hope to see you justify ordering CNN to pay Trump a few trillion in damages soon. Since that is what this trial sets as precedent. If a random schizo conspiracy theorist can be slapped with a billion dollar fine because of harrassment of people he claimed were false flag actors, I am sure you will be glad to order CNN and the likes who did the same to the POTUS to pay a similarly absurd fine right? And it will 100% happen, because apparently this is a just ruling with no political bias and CNN totally won't get a slap on the wrist by a friendly judge instead.

Your naivete is strong as fuck.

 

[Typhonis]

Your naivete is strong as fuck.

He's not Naive, he is a troll.

 

[bintananth]

He's not Naive, he is a troll.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

He's trolling and ...

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

He might not be a troll he may simply be a person who hates Alex Jones, whether truly about this issue or not. And the more costly and punishing the ruling the more he encourages it.

Of course the true irony would be that. If he were against Alex Jones then he should want as fair a court trial as possible with as fair a punishment as possible. As that has the most chance of actually sticking and being given to the parents.

If Alex Jones overturns this, and despite what people who believe what Proxy 404 believe may say to him, Jones does indeed have a good shot. Then Proxy will have no one to blame but ultimately himself, as he would of done nothing different if he was the one in charge of the case.

 

[Sobek]

You are right we don't agree with your opinion. But we are tolerating it, as you can see ftom the fact you are still allowed to spew that shit.

You have still not explained your reasoning for supporting the fine on Jones to any degree outside of a vague "he deserves it" from your own personal dislike of him.

 

[Cyan Saiyajin]

you for a bunch that value brave takes you sure don't tolerate anyone not parroting what the tribe has decieded

That's because your tribe taught you the wrong definition of the word. Tolerance is not a synonym for agreement. I'm not sure of your complete history here but you seem tolerated just fine to me.

Definition of TOLERANCE

capacity to endure pain or hardship : endurance, fortitude, stamina; sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own; the act of allowing something : toleration… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

a: sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with one's own
b: the act of allowing something : TOLERATION

The word implies disagreement with an idea or belief, not agreement. You should ask someone sometime why you were taught the wrong definition of the word.

 

[bintananth]

you for a bunch that value brave takes you sure don't tolerate anyone not parroting what the tribe has decieded

"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend your right to say it."

You aren't being silenced even though most - if not all - of us who have replied to your posts think what you're saying is complete nonsense which deserves to be filed in a wastepaper basket.