And so it begins....
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KilroywasNOTHere
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the problem is people get bored and they romanticize the "Good old days" not realizing our ancestors lived liked that because they had to not because they wanted to. Grass is greener mentality has destroyed nations faster than anything.
The single most distructive of the seven sins is envy.
Sure, the doubt is if there's a big supply of blacks desperate to start a farm who haven't done so already, and doubt that this will end with the farms benefiting black families, rather than benefiting politically connected elite as it tends to.
Argent
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I doubt that this will be like the African stlye land grab. The government won't have to seize land or use eminent domain. There are small farms for sale. I know of two by me and a family that is looking at breaking up a larger 1000 acre farm. That is just what I know about from talking to friends. There is enough land that they can buy.
The problem comes from the size and the applicant pool.
Size is now the name of the game with farming now. A lot of the labor saving come from the large combines and other gear that comes in at half million easy. You can not support buying or get enough use of those with an 160 acre farm. You would need a coop to get afford one and then you get to deal with having a Combine that works more like a timeshare then a useful peice of capital equipment.
There is also a education gap. Even a degree only helps most of the farmers I know worked on them as kids and got a college degree from a place like U of M. Just like many blue collar jobs there is a perception that they are low skilled work like a an Amazon Warehouse worker. I know the article talks about "USDA-funded apprenticeships on farms, with the goal of providing “academic, vocational and social skills". But this is going to have to be like a more like becoming a Master electrician. You are looking at least a decade training between college and fram work. Anything less will set them up to fail.
The last major problem is moving. I have yet to see the hoard of poor blacks wanting to move out of Minneapolis to even north east Minnesota. Now try imagining how many poor blacks living in the Bronx are will to move to Iowa. I don't think I have enough laughing gifs for this.
ShieldWife
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It’s possible for a family to make a living with a small farm, in fact I know a family that does this, but it’s not easy and it requires not only a lot of work, but finding the right niche and the right market for your products. A lot of making the family farm work is the right contacts and the right community. Knowing the fancy restaurants that want to buy local produce, having an established presence in a farmers market where you can offer free range meat, raw milk, or what ever it is people want for ideological reasons that the grocery store doesn’t offer.
How many black people do we intend to send to farms? Where will these farms be located? Where will their market be? What will they grow? Will there be local gluts of the sorts of crops small farms can survive on? Also, who in the chain of events will even understand any of this? The government bureaucrats transferring the land won’t. The black people from inner cities won’t, they can’t even start small businesses in their own communities involving stuff that they know about, or those who do won’t become farmers.
How many urban blacks are going to have any of the skills involved in living this way and how many of them want that lifestyle enough to try? Even getting inner city blacks to agree to this would likely involve deceiving them about what owning small farms involves. Or, you could force them to, which means we’re ethnically cleansing blacks from cities and forcing them into rural work camps. That doesn’t sound bad at all. if the black people can sell the land then they will, then it just ends up being a wealth transfer to the wealthy people who buy it, as others have already addressed.
All of the above problems ignores the moral objections to race based reparations for black people.
How many black people do we intend to send to farms? Where will these farms be located? Where will their market be? What will they grow? Will there be local gluts of the sorts of crops small farms can survive on? Also, who in the chain of events will even understand any of this? The government bureaucrats transferring the land won’t. The black people from inner cities won’t, they can’t even start small businesses in their own communities involving stuff that they know about, or those who do won’t become farmers.
How many urban blacks are going to have any of the skills involved in living this way and how many of them want that lifestyle enough to try? Even getting inner city blacks to agree to this would likely involve deceiving them about what owning small farms involves. Or, you could force them to, which means we’re ethnically cleansing blacks from cities and forcing them into rural work camps. That doesn’t sound bad at all. if the black people can sell the land then they will, then it just ends up being a wealth transfer to the wealthy people who buy it, as others have already addressed.
All of the above problems ignores the moral objections to race based reparations for black people.
CarlManvers2019
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Poor dude, he's pretty much the ONLY actual farmer left.
If the farm was gonna be given away, it should have just been given away to the farmhands who actually worked the place, instead of people who never worked there to begin with.
Argent
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New Jersey despite my comments have found their niche. They are small farms that general have an onsite farmers market along with premade good like pies and bread. They also send their stuff off to smaller high end grocery stores and small gift shops. They have made small farms running up against high pressure from large urban areas work.
The company I mentioned Moink is a co-op and sells high end meat with a social aspect of supporting small farmers that rich college millennials love. Their is a reason that so many new smaller start ups have a "social aspect" like for every sock you buy we donate one. It let's people fell better about buying their 10 dollar jar of honey or their 20 dollar a pair of socks.
You even see more locally sourced goods at Wallmart and places like a Whole Foods. It is not uncommon to see a section put aside for local goods. The problems comes from the fact that they generally want finished food stuffs. So if you grow tomatoes they won't buy them but they will buy the artisan pasta sauce. The general problem means that you have to your own production facilities or find a decent commercial kitchen. Then you also have to grow enough to last all year and keep up with orders along with finding a distributor. All things that can take years to figure out and develop the right relationships to make your farm successful.
But like you said this takes a lot of work and can change depending on location. All things that handing over a farm to someone without any connect and mainly theoretical knowledge is most likely not going to be able to do.
In Poland we had commie economy,and all were poor.But in 1989 commies wanted to be rich after stealing state goods,so they made free economy - everybody could become merchant with anything except weapon.
That was for commies,but common people start buing and selling,and become richer.ex-Commies from 1995 then started regulate more and more...and now only rich could start any business.Which mostly are foreigner or ex-commies.
But when nobody regulated it,ordinary citizen could be rich thanks to hard work.
To made it worst,ruling polish fake right is almost as bad,becouse they belive in state.It seems,that unless God made another miracle for us,we are screwed.Or maybe friendly aliens ?
ShieldWife
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Regarding regulation - the guys who run the big corporations know the score, they’re no fools. They know that regulations privilege them over smaller businesses. How do we know that regulations help them? Because just about all of the mega-corporations support the Democrat Party or then equivalent leftist (yet corporatist) parties around the world. If big corporations wanted to eliminate regulations, then they would give billions of dollars to libertarian candidates and libertarian candidates would get all of the positive media attention. They don’t though, it’s the big regulation Democrats who get most of the corporate support and then the moderate regulation Republicans who get the rest.
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The point of this is simple as it is sinister, it is intended to do no less than break the political power and cultural cohesion of the rural White population.
There is no other objective but this.
There is no other objective but this.
Megadeath
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I'm sorry, are you seriously saying that action intended to reduce white supremacy in a given field is inherently "sinister"?
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I’m sorry, but any action intended to harm the white population is Anti White. If that makes me a White Supremacist, then so be it.
Terthna
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It's not so much that they're in favor of regulations; they just want to control the economic system, regardless of what form it takes. If there was no regulation, they'd still try to buy themselves an unfair advantage over their smaller competitors.
AnimalNoodles
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Why are you supporting an effort to ethnically cleanse our cities of african amerians?
Regardless of whether or not this is as a primary goal intending to break up white communities, how would you describe a a plan to purposefully destroy black communities and cripple their ability to organize?
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