We don't know.Would rice and potatoes help the North's population through winter if it can be grown up North? And would there be gold or silver or platinum in any decent amount up North? Or diamonds and other gems really given the volcanic activity up there.
Perhaps.Quinoa could possibly be grown in the North though. There’s areas of the world where quinoa is grown in colder temperatures
Which would be worth the endeavor and if you had say Valyrian magitech bullshit or Aegon deciding to command Balerion to dig like a dog one could in theory mitigate the costs.Building canals can be really expensive. Although there may also be potential in a river based trade between the Riverlands, the Reach, and the Westerlands, plus you might be able to build a canal that connects King's Landing to the Reach.
Exactly, the cost, the losses and once you succeed? You have the natural consequences of canals.If you have multiple families trying to make cannals, you can have multiple successes and fialure- thus dispelling the hints of mary sueness that make the meme distastefull.
A canal linking the basin of the upper Mander and the middle Blackwater should be possible.you might be able to build a canal that connects King's Landing to the Reach.
if you can connect the trident to the the gods eye, you'd connect trade between king landing and the vale.One thing I never understood about the canal meme is that wouldn't it make the Tully's the wealthiest house in the realm?
aiui that would also connect to the westlands as well.canal linking the basin of the upper Mander and the middle Blackwater should be possible.
It would have made a lot more complex and entertaining that's for sure.i really wish that asofi/got had shown more river based trade in westros.
There is basically zero realistic way to build a canal network in/through the Riverlands pre-Conquest. Remember that the Riverlands was always basically the afterthought and the battlefield for everyone else. It's where the Vale, North, and Westerlands fought whenever they had a dispute. It's where the Ironborn prefered to raid (ease of raiding vs. available wealth vs. defenses).One thing I never understood about the canal meme is that wouldn't it make the Tully's the wealthiest house in the realm?
Since freaking everything would have to pass through the riverlands? And the ramifications of that are extensive. It would make Aegon a complete fucktard for not integrating them if the canal network was already built by then and the whole of the Ironborn and their history and culture would change drastically to where they might even end up as the mercenary navy of House Tully?
Like the ramifications are more than just "and the North gets rich.".
Not for the Riverlands themselves so much as bridging various rivers for ease of travel for commerce purposes. Though you're right in that most of those would be controlled by other Kingdoms.There is basically zero realistic way to build a canal network in/through the Riverlands pre-Conquest. Remember that the Riverlands was always basically the afterthought and the battlefield for everyone else. It's where the Vale, North, and Westerlands fought whenever they had a dispute. It's where the Ironborn prefered to raid (ease of raiding vs. available wealth vs. defenses)
The Hoares I should have said though I'm guessing the Tullys would have inherited that theoretical wealth on behalf of the Targs.You should also remember that House Tully never ruled the Riverlands until Aegon installed them. They became the Lord Paramount because they were the first to turn on Harren the Black and support Aegon, not because they had some historic claim.
Isn't Riverrun a key location strategically though?Riverrun is also not positioned well, at all, to really have any control over any canals that make any real sense. Seagard, Harrenhall, Darry, and the Blackwater Rush Fork are the locations realistically able to exert serious control; none of which is in the Tully realm of influence.
Certainly would have made projecting their powers easier and trade more efficient I would assume.The Targaryens should have pushed for canals, but then they sucked horribly at actually doing anything to secure their rule
Minimize Tyrell power and create a domain of their own as large as any of the other Kingdoms?I mean if Aegon had an ounce of brains he would have drawn the Crownlands border at the Harrenhall-Darry line and down along the river. It's both the natural border and makes the Crownlands substantially more secure and politically cohesive. He would have also broken the Reach into at least two separate realms (one ruled by Old Town, one by Highgarden) and probably also grabbed off some of the Reach lands for the Stormlands as well
Martin seems to think the high middle ages were the same economically as post Rome Europe. Hence you get subsistence farming and other things as the main means by which these lords with domains larger than most medieval Kingdoms maintain their wealth.For canal building, the Targaryens have a massive advantage in dragons. Even ignoring the sheer muscle power and digging potential, just their ability to breath fire would massively accelerate land clearance and the ability to (rough) survey from the air would substantially improve planning. If the dragons are more involved, well they could probably dig most of the canal themselves with sheer muscle power. Then have the smallfolk dump in gravel and use dragonfire to melt the stone to create a solid, stone, foundation
Having a steadier steam of Valyrian migration into Westeros and bringing their engineering and skills might achieve that?-x-x-x-
I really would like to see a Conquest fic where the Targs aren't either political incompetents or magic using super deities. Also I will accept the magic using if the sheer stupidity is removed. I mean their canon behavior really comes across as Aegon waking up one morning and deciding that he wants to conquer a continent because he is bored and "Fuck you, I have dragons."
He took zero steps to secure loyalty, destroy/co-opt competing power bases, establish a succession, or create the infrastructure of rule. Honestly, he was very much a warlord more than he was a King.