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Rocinante

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They can until someone challenges it in court. What happens when a court strikes it down?
We'll see if they actually care. They're already violating supreme court decisions.

Administration officials had previously said a Supreme Court ruling stopped them from setting up a new moratorium without congressional backing. When the court allowed the eviction ban to remain in place through the end of July by a 5-4 vote, one justice in the majority, Brett Kavanaugh, wrote that Congress would have to act to extend it further.

But on Tuesday, the CDC cited the slow pace of state and local governments disbursing housing aid as justification for the new moratorium.
 

Abhishekm

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What the frack justification does the CDC have to care about housing aid? Or housing at all or most of this crap? Are the meanings to the names to alphabet agencies just mad up?

Like can the FCA ban 5G towers citing lack of rural infrastructure development? Can the FBI reinstate the ban on Kinderjoys citing trade irregularities? Can the CIA ban corn syrup as a public health risk?
 
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Doomsought

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Like can the FCA ban 5G towers citing lack of rural infrastructure development? Can the FBI reinstate the ban on Kinderjoys citing trade irregularities?
It is because they won't be charged with conspiracy against rights and executed for their crimes.
 

Abhishekm

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It is because they won't be charged with conspiracy against rights and executed for their crimes.
But who the frack is enforcing this crap and why? If the FDA sent out an announcement that they are making coca cola illegal are the police obligated to start cofiscating every can?

I guess you can't expect much from morons that went along with their 'police' not jailing looters because the mayor said so. But what the heck?

Why do you people bother with state senates, town councils or legal codes it one guy can get up and send a memo that says 'Arson is legal today in this 5 block area' and everybody goes along with it.
 
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Bigking321

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I'm pretty sure we are at the beginning of the American cultural revolution.

The rules are whatever the elites say they are and if the peasants don't comply they will be destroyed.

The CCP would be so proud of the democrats following their example.

Destroy the history, destroy the culture, destroy the traditions, destroy the community, all hail the party.
 

Abhishekm

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I'm pretty sure we are at the beginning of the American cultural revolution.

The rules are whatever the elites say they are and if the peasants don't comply they will be destroyed.

The CCP would be so proud of the democrats following their example.

Destroy the history, destroy the culture, destroy the traditions, destroy the community, all hail the party.
'Revolution'? You people deserve each other. A race to the bottom between Degeneracy versus Cowardice. Both spurred on by ever growing laziness and apathy.
 
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DarthOne

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Thanks to Brett Kavanaugh, We Have the Very Slippery Slope of the New CDC Eviction Order
As we previously reported, Joe Biden announced that the CDC would be coming down with a new temporary eviction moratorium order.


What was so stunning about Biden’s remarks is that he indicated he knew it was likely to not pass constitutional muster, his own advisors had said the day before that they didn’t have the legal authority, that they had “quadruple-checked it.” Yet he decided to do it anyway, caving under pressure from the progressives. But, in the process, he also said the quiet part out loud — that they were going to do it anyway even if it was unconstitutional because it would take time for the lawsuits that would be filed to get the order stayed.


The CDC has now issued a new eviction moratorium order that applies to counties with “substantial and high levels of community transmission” of the Wuhan coronavirus, the same standards as the mask requirements. That means 50 or more cases out of 100,000 people and that applies to most counties in the country.

The CDC order argued that they needed to order the moratorium because evicting people would cause more people to move and come in contact with others thus leading to more spread of the virus. They also argued that the Delta variant represented an unexpected change in the trajectory of the pandemic.

“In the context of a pandemic, eviction moratoria — like quarantine, isolation, and social distancing — can be an effective public health measure utilized to prevent the spread of communicable disease. Eviction moratoria facilitate self-isolation and self-quarantine by people who become ill or who are at risk of transmitting COVID-19 by keeping people out of congregate settings and in their own homes,”
The CDC said it would be in force until October 3.

By this reasoning, the CDC, on behalf of the government, could use this justification to order virtually anything, with the virus as a twisted justification. That’s a horribly slippery slope to go down, even beyond Barack Obama’s pen and phone. Now the government is justifying the theft of your property using the thin reed of a “medical” justification to serve a political agenda (as Bonchie noted in an excellent piece detailing the tyrannical penalties for “violating” this “law”). It’s particularly troubling that Biden admitted that’s what this is. That anything the CDC is saying is simply to buy them that time, that they don’t care about whether it’s legal or whether or not they are acting in accordance with the law. So much for respecting the rule of law.


As I wrote earlier, Biden (and the CDC) are basically spitting in the eye of the Supreme Court because of the concurrence by Justice Brett Kavanaugh that indicated he would not go along in a further extension.

In the Supreme Court decision on June 29, Alabama landlords had challenged the moratorium. The liberal majority upheld the moratorium with Justice Brett Kavanaugh concurring, 5-4.

Although Kavanaugh concurred, he made it clear that he would not go along with it in the future and that he was only going along with it because it was ending in a month anyway. He argued it would give more time for the states to distribute the rental relief that Congress had voted for in the COVID bills.

“Because the CDC plans to end the moratorium in only a few weeks, on July 31, and because those few weeks will allow for additional and more orderly distribution of the congressionally appropriated rental assistance funds, I vote at this time to deny the application to vacate the District Court’s stay of its order,” Kavanaugh wrote in brief concurrence. “In my view, clear and specific congressional authorization (via new legislation) would be necessary for the CDC to extend the moratorium past July 31.”


Yet Kavanaugh also said he agreed with the district court judge and the applicant landlords that the CDC had gone beyond its statutory powers in imposing such a moratorium, to begin with.

There was no legal basis for the moratorium, which amounts to an unconstitutional government taking of someone else’s property without compensation. Kavanaugh agreed that the CDC had gone beyond its powers. But because Kavanaugh decided to give them another month to give them time to distribute the funds, he gave Joe Biden an opening to pull a move like this.

So what will happen next? The new ban will likely be found illegal after the first lawsuit hits and it will be ultimately be upheld. But now it’s a waiting game till that happens. And it never should have taken this long when it was so clearly unconstitutional in the first place.



Wilfred Reilly
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· Aug 3
When I rented, my landlord made less money than I did. The idea that you have a right to live on a small businessman's lands for 18 months without paying him is insane.



Candace Owens
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18h

SICK that Democrats have convinced people that landlords—many of whom live paycheck to paycheck—are the enemies. The CDC is pure evil. Everything they have done is to ensure that landowners default and owe the big banks. Covid-19 is a communist attempt to kill the middle class.

Candace Owens
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Once the landowners default, the big banks will swoop in and buy all of the land. That is what is happening, right now, in the country. The big banks are colluding with the government to ensure that they own everything. This is how communism works.
 

Battlegrinder

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So, the SC was lenient with the administration and gave them extra time to sort out their program, which they also ruled was flat out illegal and an abusive of government authority, and so Joe repays them.ybrowing him a bone by doubling down and ramming a decision through that he knew would get shot down as illegal the second it hits the docket.

That's an excellent way to get on the good side of a court that has Roe Vs Wade in it's sights.
 

Abhishekm

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Oh no, people don't want to leap straight into a contest of arms that will result in brother killing brother.
Always with the passive acceptance or full civil war bit. Really Sovereign are you actually THAT committed to the idea that the only options are passive aggressive language or mortal combat?

Even then I wouldn't really mind that idea if it wasn't for the constant 'hurdur THAT would be the LAST STRAW, no wait THATS the last straw stuff'. Its as denigrating to see the 'To war!' or 'This marks the end of civilization' crowds as it is to see this.
 

Battlegrinder

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If there is any actual consequences or confrontation over this, the most likely form it will take is local or state jurisdictions ignoring the order and tossing delinquent tenants out, and giving the CDC the typical "you and what army?" reply if the CDC tries to stop them.
 

Lord Sovereign

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Always with the passive acceptance or full civil war bit. Really Sovereign are you actually THAT committed to the idea that the only options are passive aggressive language or mortal combat?

Even then I wouldn't really mind that idea if it wasn't for the constant 'hurdur THAT would be the LAST STRAW, not wait THATS the last straw stuff'. Its as denigrating to see the 'To war!' crowd as it is to see this.

Well what are you on about then?

Every peaceful means to counter this is being pursued to some success. The only step up from here is direct armed rebellion.

As has been said, it takes a shit ton to get people to take up arms against their own countrymen. Things have to go absolutely catastrophically wrong, and we haven't hit that point yet.
 

Cherico

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Well what are you on about then?

Every peaceful means to counter this is being pursued to some success. The only step up from here is direct armed rebellion.

As has been said, it takes a shit ton to get people to take up arms against their own countrymen. Things have to go absolutely catastrophically wrong, and we haven't hit that point yet.

I personally give it 39 to 40 more years. Its not just the us of course but the whole western world.
 

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