United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[prinCZess]

If you're going to use a source the Daily Fail is just about the worst one you can cite.

Haven't read it, but in this case it's one of those 'site reporting on another site's bombshell report'--in this case from Business Insider.

EXCLUSIVE: New emails reveal Hunter Biden asked for $2 million plus 'success fees' to help unfreeze Libyan assets

Two previously unpublished emails offer a window into Beltway influence peddling, and how a potential client viewed Hunter Biden as an "alcoholic, drug addict"

www.businessinsider.com

 

[bintananth]

Haven't read it, but in this case it's one of those 'site reporting on another site's bombshell report'--in this case from Business Insider.

EXCLUSIVE: New emails reveal Hunter Biden asked for $2 million plus 'success fees' to help unfreeze Libyan assets

Two previously unpublished emails offer a window into Beltway influence peddling, and how a potential client viewed Hunter Biden as an "alcoholic, drug addict"

www.businessinsider.com

If The Daily Fail weighs in on something the story probably isn't worth the paper it's printed on unless you're looking for a good laugh.

 

[Sobek]

If The Daily Fail weighs in on something the story probably isn't worth the paper it's printed on unless you're looking for a good laugh.

That's a really stupid take, I agree that if you dislike it you can look for the original source but that is a stupid way to go about it. When CNN prints fake news it is at least worthy to take a look to know what exactly they are smearing others with.

Also that video gives me severe, painful "smug liberal" vibes. The type that would years later become a SJW and complain Brexit is racist and Corbyn is the PM the UK needs.

 

[49ersfootball]

I see that folks on Twitter are getting triggered by United States Senator Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ).

 

[Rocinante]

So that military guy who spoke up about we need accountability in Afghanistan...he has been arrested.

Marine Officer Who Criticized Military Leadership Over Biden’s Afghanistan Withdrawal Thrown In Brig | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

 

[VicSage]

The US Military are surprisingly good about doing things that are perfectly legal for them to do, but have terrible optics these days.

 

[Zachowon]

He is facing an article 32 court martial.
It is standard to arrest and hold them in the brig to make sure they do not try to run.
Even if he won't it allows for easier movement of him to and from.

 

[Rocinante]

He is facing an article 32 court martial.
It is standard to arrest and hold them in the brig to make sure they do not try to run.
Even if he won't it allows for easier movement of him to and from.

Of course you'd defend this

 

[VicSage]

Hate to do this, but that's not defending it. Explanation, not an excuse. Just because it's morally reprehensible and terrible optics doesn't mean that it isn't legal under the UCMJ. And since it's the standard procedure for anyone under that article, it means they have the precedent to do it like this.

 

[Zachowon]

Of course you'd defend this

I am telling you why they are.
Not defending

Hate to do this, but that's not defending it. Explanation, not an excuse. Just because it's morally reprehensible and terrible optics doesn't mean that it isn't legal under the UCMJ. And since it's the standard procedure for anyone under that article, it means they have the precedent to do it like this.

Exactly

 

[The Whispering Monk]

@Rocinante
Restrain your anger till after we see the results and conduct of the hearing.

 

[Zachowon]

And unlike normal court cases, court martial arnt filmed.

 

[Sobek]

I can't help but think it might end up going something like the famous "You can't handle the truth!" scene. Fact is they can bitch and moan all about protocol and expectations of the position but the Officer spoke the truth, truth that civilians AND military of the entire nation had on their minds and either weren't allowed to say or had no way to be heard.

Anything more than a slap on the wrist will be a moral failure for the institution.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Navy Seals forced off Deployment if they Refuse the Vax

I almost put this under the Wuhan Virus thread, but it's more of an admin response then purely a virus issue.

Edited for my opinion
I don't get this honestly.

Does anyone know if the Military forces Flu shots on the Special Forces?
If not, then this is just stupid and hypocritical.

 

[Zachowon]

Navy Seals forced off Deployment if they Refuse the Vax

I almost put this under the Wuhan Virus thread, but it's more of an admin response then purely a virus issue.

Edited for my opinion
I don't get this honestly.

Does anyone know if the Military forces Flu shots on the Special Forces?
If not, then this is just stupid and hypocritical.

They do.
Special Forces often get then first.
In order to deploy you have to have the Vax.
You can stay CONUS with a exemption but no deployments, no going overseas

 

[Battlegrinder]

The military should not and can not tolerate its officers denigrating the chain of command or getting involved in politics, it's bad for both the proper function of the military and the country. That's part of the core issue that people had with Miley's phone call, if you'll recall. Yes, it's unfair that he got away with it and this guy didn't, but the unjust element is that he wasn't punished, not that this guy was.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

They do.
Special Forces often get then first.
In order to deploy you have to have the Vax.
You can stay CONUS with a exemption but no deployments, no going overseas

Since that is the case, I have no problem with this as it's consistent.

I appreciate, and am a little surprised, that they aren't forcing the vax on the Operators since it's such a small community.

Probably worried what would happen IF one of the operators ended up with severe side effects.

 

[LordsFire]

The military should not and can not tolerate its officers denigrating the chain of command or getting involved in politics, it's bad for both the proper function of the military and the country. That's part of the core issue that people had with Miley's phone call, if you'll recall. Yes, it's unfair that he got away with it and this guy didn't, but the unjust element is that he wasn't punished, not that this guy was.

That's not the only difference. The difference is that this Lieutenant-Colonel was calling out a genuine problem, of incompetence and failure. Incompetence that got people killed, and continues to get people killed.

Milley was projecting his delusional fantasies onto reality.

 

[Battlegrinder]

That's not the only difference. The difference is that this Lieutenant-Colonel was calling out a genuine problem, of incompetence and failure. Incompetence that got people killed, and continues to get people killed.

Milley was projecting his delusional fantasies onto reality.

I'm sure that Milley genuinely thought that he was making a principled stand against a very real problem too, and loads of people seem to agree with him. There is no a "unless you really, really think it's important" exception to those rules.

 

[Zachowon]

The military should not and can not tolerate its officers denigrating the chain of command or getting involved in politics, it's bad for both the proper function of the military and the country. That's part of the core issue that people had with Miley's phone call, if you'll recall. Yes, it's unfair that he got away with it and this guy didn't, but the unjust element is that he wasn't punished, not that this guy was.

The military are calling out Milley behind closed doors

Since that is the case, I have no problem with this as it's consistent.

I appreciate, and am a little surprised, that they aren't forcing the vax on the Operators since it's such a small community.

Probably worried what would happen IF one of the operators ended up with severe side effects.

Yeah.
It is just a precaution. Like Anthrax and Small pox

That's not the only difference. The difference is that this Lieutenant-Colonel was calling out a genuine problem, of incompetence and failure. Incompetence that got people killed, and continues to get people killed.

Milley was projecting his delusional fantasies onto reality.

in the military they are treated the sane until the trial

I'm sure that Milley genuinely thought that he was making a principled stand against a very real problem too, and loads of people seem to agree with him. There is no a "unless you really, really think it's important" exception to those rules.

This.