Buba
A total creep
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United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread
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Duke Nukem
Hail to the king baby
Damn I thought they'd wait a while before trying this.
strunkenwhite
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I don't agree with "relinquish", but yeah I don't know why the VP or Speaker should have a veto on a military decision. I can somewhat understand the sentiment but it doesn't seem to have been thought out very well.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
As is unless we have inbound nukes the President by themselves doesn't have the authority to use nukes. It takes them and at least one other high ranking government official
The military also has say in the launch.
Like, SEFDEF iirc doesn't have the ability to launch either. They are very strict about the codes and how launching nukes works.
As in we WILL not fire first. No military person high in rank will allow that to happen.
Especially if the ones turning the key say no.
Like, SEFDEF iirc doesn't have the ability to launch either. They are very strict about the codes and how launching nukes works.
As in we WILL not fire first. No military person high in rank will allow that to happen.
Especially if the ones turning the key say no.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Yep ensuring that no one person could go nuts and end the world has been a high priority of the USG ever since nukes have been a thing. Mind SAC wasn't always the most cooperative on this front what with the whole having the code be 11111111 for like a decade and half to improve response time
But even then, there are so many steps, each invovle multiple steps that onvovle someone who can say no.
If an enemy launches first then we will fire.
Iirc all operators who have the key, can not turn it unless fired upon in retaliation
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Mind you tactical weapons have their own rules as opposed to the stragetic ones but they still have quite the list to be checked before they can used in anything but a retaliatory use
Airedale260
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Yeah it has to be approved by the National Command Authority (President and SecDef) after they've been authenticated, *unless* we have proof that a WMD attack has been perpetrated by a foreign power against us, in which case the head of STRATCOM can authenticate (generally if the missiles are flying, but also if, say, Iran were to hit New York with a nuclear truck bomb or something and we can prove it).
The letter is posturing, is all. Yes, Trump asking "why don't we use them more often?" was disturbing, but OTOH it's Trump.
There's also the fact that inserting the Speaker into the chain of command is not only stupid but also unconstitutional. Clearly our civics classes are failing.
LindyAF
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Is this a mechanical limitation or an instruction not to?
And eh... the constitution's force, insofar as it has any, comes from popular conception more than anything else. The government that has developed would be totally alien to the people who wrote it. Any part of the constitution that is not see regular attention or is not a regular point of friction can probably be assumed to be de-facto defunct.
So, Biden basically shut down investigations into "certain matters" (Operation: Talon).
And people voted for him and the Democrats. I'm honestly laughing in a "holy shit, look at this ongoing train-wreck" way.
And he even said his ENTIRE reason for running was because of the kids in cages.
This is supposedly the one big travesty that inspired him to run. His core driver in his presidency.
And he's thrown more kids into those cages in the last month than Trump has in his entire 4 years.
He's also hoping that their parents vote Democrat in 2024.
But to be fair - he is a ChiCom plant, so it's really up to his handler.
Both, as mechanical is people have to do things at the same time, and instructions as we only fire in retaliation
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Biden’s stimulus gamble: Massive cuts to Medicare, farm aid
The budget gambit Democrats are embracing to fast-track President Joe Biden’s $1.9T pandemic aid plan will trigger billions of dollars in reeducations to critical programs.
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Bye bye medicare.
They voted for Biden: of course they are!