China ChiCom News Thread
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LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Good grief, 'science reporting' in a nutshell.
China begins drilling one of world’s deepest holes in hunt for discoveries deep inside the Earth
Narrow 11,000-metre shaft will reach the Earth’s crust to study internal structures as China seeks to explore new frontierswww.theguardian.com
Again, article archived here for preservation purposes.
'We're going to drill down to the Earth's crust!'
Go back to grade school, Guardian reporter.
Don't remember, though I'm not doubting Russian fucked around and found out.
Kola Superdeep Borehole - Wikipedia
Looks like it was surpassed by another borehole in 2012.
Still, unless China pulls something out of its ass (that isn't "made in China"), I don't see what they have which'd last longer under the heat and pressure?
bintananth
behind a desk
When stuff broke they backed up a bit tried again. They finally called it quits when funding dried up after the USSR collapsed.
Ah, so it was a Soviet project that collapsed with the Union.
Kinda reminds me of the radioactive lighthouse projects they had set up -- they're still finding leaking, radioactive batteries in the middle of nowhere.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
China Deploys Police, Makes Arrests After Mosque Clashes
China deployed hundreds of police and made arrests in a mostly Muslim southwestern town after clashes erupted over the planned partial demolition of a mosque, witnesses told AFP.
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On that tangent...
Media of the CCP Approved Mosque Dome designs.
According to the Twitter thread it's part of an ongoing effort to "Sinicize" Muslims and Islam.
The main change being a lack of a dome to fit the classic Chinese aesthetic.
Media of the CCP Approved Mosque Dome designs.
According to the Twitter thread it's part of an ongoing effort to "Sinicize" Muslims and Islam.
The main change being a lack of a dome to fit the classic Chinese aesthetic.
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Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
As a non-architecture aficionado, I fail to see what's wrong with having a dome?
It's already established the PRC has minimal freedom, though I suppose architectural rules that are tied to that have made their way into the Chinese legal code, too.
Because it isn't Chinese that's whyAs a non-architecture aficionado, I fail to see what's wrong with having a dome?
It's already established the PRC has minimal freedom, though I suppose architectural rules that are tied to that have made their way into the Chinese legal code, too.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Okay...
True enough, but is there anything more "specific" or "substantial" people can tell me about Chinese architecture, or whatever (somewhat arbitrary) standards the CCP has probably set?
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
The problem is that it represents loyalty to anything other than the supremacy of the state.
That's the problem.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but taking it from what I think you want:
Chinese Architecture is bilaterally symmetrical, they don't like asymmetric buildings.
Chinese Architecture tends towards open, horizontal structures and doesn't like building up compared with Western designs.
Chinese Architecture likes open interior spaces, like buildings surrounding an internal garden or patio.
Chinese Architecture uses a hierarchy of direction, some directions are more auspicious than others (This is probably the one that makes them hate domes, Chinese buildings tend towards very square or octagonal structures to emphasize directional hierarchy and they don't like any other angles or round buildings).
Xi Jinping himself has come out against Avante Garde architecture and stated he was cracking down on "Weird Architecture." That probably didn't help matters much.
Chinese President Xi Jinping: ‘No More Weird Architecture’
He doesn't like buildings that look like pants.
www.businessinsider.com
Yep! It's basically a design guide 101 when designing Chinese or generic Asian-themed architecture in illustration and 3D modelling projects.I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but taking it from what I think you want:
Chinese Architecture is bilaterally symmetrical, they don't like asymmetric buildings.
Chinese Architecture tends towards open, horizontal structures and doesn't like building up compared with Western designs.
Chinese Architecture likes open interior spaces, like buildings surrounding an internal garden or patio.
Chinese Architecture uses a hierarchy of direction, some directions are more auspicious than others (This is probably the one that makes them hate domes, Chinese buildings tend towards very square or octagonal structures to emphasize directional hierarchy and they don't like any other angles or round buildings).
Xi Jinping himself has come out against Avante Garde architecture and stated he was cracking down on "Weird Architecture." That probably didn't help matters much.
Chinese President Xi Jinping: ‘No More Weird Architecture’
He doesn't like buildings that look like pants.
Easily recognisable.
Typhonis
Well-known member
The Chinese must really love Minecraft then. No domes there it's all just blocks.I'm not 100% sure what you're asking for but taking it from what I think you want:
Chinese Architecture is bilaterally symmetrical, they don't like asymmetric buildings.
Chinese Architecture tends towards open, horizontal structures and doesn't like building up compared with Western designs.
Chinese Architecture likes open interior spaces, like buildings surrounding an internal garden or patio.
Chinese Architecture uses a hierarchy of direction, some directions are more auspicious than others (This is probably the one that makes them hate domes, Chinese buildings tend towards very square or octagonal structures to emphasize directional hierarchy and they don't like any other angles or round buildings).
Xi Jinping himself has come out against Avante Garde architecture and stated he was cracking down on "Weird Architecture." That probably didn't help matters much.
Chinese President Xi Jinping: ‘No More Weird Architecture’
He doesn't like buildings that look like pants.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
Bear in mind what I posted was extremely simplified, there's a lot more to it.
Curved roofs and upturned eaves are very characteristic of Chines architecture, used to increase the roof's surface area and thus let it slough off more water in a monsoon. Doubled eaves were present for the same reason and contribute to the pagoda-like appearance, as were huge eaves that stuck out past the building's side. The number of eaves and type of roof denoted status and hierarchy, f'rex a Hip Roof with slopes on all four sides are the classiest and most high-status roof. During the Ming and Qing dynasties multi-eave hip roofs were only permitted on royal palaces and Confucian temples. Next most important are the Xie Shan or "Resting Hill" roofs (We'd call it a Dutch Gable in the West) which have a partial hip, used for government buildings, meeting halls, and important official gardens. Status decreased as roofs got simpler until the poor folk settled for a basic gable roof with minimal eaves for their homes, called a Hard Hill in China.
Circular, conic, and dome-shaped buildings do exist but those are a result of Mongolian influence, and modern Chinese are not super fond of being reminded that Glorious Chinese History includes hundreds of years of being a conquered land under Mongol rule.
Found this on RobertHarding.com
A Mongolian house near Dongsheng in Inner Mongolia, China, Asia
www.robertharding.com
See, this is the sort of shit that should be considered when you're world-building -- environmental and historical factors on a civilization's architecture.Bear in mind what I posted was extremely simplified, there's a lot more to it.
Curved roofs and upturned eaves are very characteristic of Chines architecture, used to increase the roof's surface area and thus let it slough off more water in a monsoon. Doubled eaves were present for the same reason and contribute to the pagoda-like appearance, as were huge eaves that stuck out past the building's side. The number of eaves and type of roof denoted status and hierarchy, f'rex a Hip Roof with slopes on all four sides are the classiest and most high-status roof. During the Ming and Qing dynasties multi-eave hip roofs were only permitted on royal palaces and Confucian temples. Next most important are the Xie Shan or "Resting Hill" roofs (We'd call it a Dutch Gable in the West) which have a partial hip, used for government buildings, meeting halls, and important official gardens. Status decreased as roofs got simpler until the poor folk settled for a basic gable roof with minimal eaves for their homes, called a Hard Hill in China.
Circular, conic, and dome-shaped buildings do exist but those are a result of Mongolian influence, and modern Chinese are not super fond of being reminded that Glorious Chinese History includes hundreds of years of being a conquered land under Mongol rule.
Found this on RobertHarding.com
A Mongolian house near Dongsheng in Inner Mongolia, China, Asiawww.robertharding.com
Not a lot of creatives do this, unfortunately.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Southwest China hit by record-breaking ‘Dragon Boat Water’ rainfall
In Beihai, cars were half underwater in flooded streets, and at one multi-storey building water cascaded down a staircase as firefighters raced to rescue its residents, videos circulating on social media showed.
www.cnbctv18.com
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So according to some calcs the actual size of the chinese economy is 60% smaller then reported.
this still makes them the 2nd largest economy in the world but it means that the whole being the most overleveraged country in human history is actually worse then we think when this all blows up its going to be ugly as hell.
this still makes them the 2nd largest economy in the world but it means that the whole being the most overleveraged country in human history is actually worse then we think when this all blows up its going to be ugly as hell.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Kinda' makes me wonder whether Western economies are as well-off as they're made out to be, too, actually. We may not be China levels of monumentally over-leveraged, but we've still got pervasive debt reliance and lots of artificial "make-work" jobs throughout the public and private sector alike that deliver little to no value to consumers.
At any rate, this shit right there makes me think China — not just the CCP, but the concept of a unified China itself — is on a road to self-destruction that'll disrupt its usual "cycle" of fragmentation and reunification for generations to come. Wrote about that at length here (since you'd be interested in that), but to sum it up: The state of China now looks an awful lot like the USSR in the '80s, and we all know how that turned out. Ultimately, I'd argue Deng didn't put China through nearly the chemo regimen it needs to survive as a country or as a people — meaning that whatever comes after the People's Republic probably won't be enough to save it.