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[Skitzyfrenic]

The thing is, if they import poverty, which is what they think they're doing, then the poor and the middle class that they are crushing will feel richer.

Except they (those in power) forget is that they're also importing different and highly conservative values, crime, and patriarchy.

Then they surprise pikachu face, turn around blame the native men, and then surprise pikachu face when the native men fight against them.

 

[Jormungandr]

Also by interacting with them. Like half of the people on Spacebattles are from the UK. And again they aren't leaving the UK because they support ethno nationalism or are against secularism, or to spite the EU's stance on globohomo. The UK is still bringing in foreigners from far away, they are still atheists who mock religion and the church of England is a joke. They are still pro gay and pro tranny.

Like one thing we need to purge from the right, is the uneducated who seem to want to be friendly and helpful to the English just because we share the same language, and they think we came from there.

1. I'm an atheist and I do mock religion -- I do think it's all a joke; a bunch of fairy stories and fables albeit with good morals and lessons at their cores (e.g. don't be a dick to your neighbor, don't build a house on shifting sands, et cetera). Don't equate atheism = liberal/Left, as like being a conservative doesn't necessarily mean you're a Christian. It's not binary.

Outside of regular people who are gay or transgender (and I mean true transgenders, not trans-trenders) people who want to live their lives quietly and unnoticed, we hate the Alphabet Soup Nuts too. Unfortunately, pro-Soup and Leftoids run our media and have infested our government just like in the States and other Western countries -- see the BBC and Doctor Who, fucking fetish freaks talking to children in libraries, as examples.

It's not a binary thing.

2. The Church of England is pretty much a joke.

3. Outside of London (which is like its own country now culturally) and the main cities, the average person is sick to death of foreigners basically swamping us when our infrastructure is already struggling to support the existing amount of people in the country -- especially Pakistanis, Muslims, and Eastern Europeans and the troubles they bring.

Oh, and Blacks, no matter their origin (e.g. migrant or born here), who try to pull the race/culture card constantly (note that if they're just regular people who are Black, no-one cares, but it's when they try to pull the same shit you're seeing in the States that their acting in such a way becomes an issue).

4. Yeah, our police forces are as bad as stated: it's pretty much Thought Police and covering up Muslim rape and grooming gangs in case it causes "offence"/racism. People are actually becoming more and more disgusted and uncooperative with our coppers on the whole.

They literally have thought police that will literally arrest you if you make a post online that goes against the cult approved spiel.

With examples like arresting an 8 year old for hate speech because he posted that a muslim rape gang raped his 14 year old sister (they did). Or arresting a 15 year old girl in the hospital because she posted photos of her injuries after being attacked by a muslim rape gang

Or how they "accidentally" sent a reporter who asked hard questions about muslim rape gangs into a max security all muslim prison. And their news reported it was because his questions "almost collapsed the case against the grooming gangs" when in fact the court documents explicitly state that isn't the case.

So you cannot judge their real views based on what they post online.

Pretty much this.

 

[King Arts]

They literally have thought police that will literally arrest you if you make a post online that goes against the cult approved spiel.

With examples like arresting an 8 year old for hate speech because he posted that a muslim rape gang raped his 14 year old sister (they did). Or arresting a 15 year old girl in the hospital because she posted photos of her injuries after being attacked by a muslim rape gang

Or how they "accidentally" sent a reporter who asked hard questions about muslim rape gangs into a max security all muslim prison. And their news reported it was because his questions "almost collapsed the case against the grooming gangs" when in fact the court documents explicitly state that isn't the case.

So you cannot judge their real views based on what they post online.

What?

That just proves my point, fuck the British. Yes they bitch and moan about European super states, but they made all those laws on their own without the EU forcing them too.

 

[King Arts]

1. I'm an atheist and I do mock religion -- I do think it's all a joke; a bunch of fairy stories and fables albeit with good morals and lessons at their cores (e.g. don't be a dick to your neighbor, don't build a house on shifting sands, et cetera). Don't equate atheism = liberal/Left, as like being a conservative doesn't necessarily mean you're a Christian. It's not binary.

Outside of regular people who are gay or transgender (and I mean true transgenders, not trans-trenders) people who want to live their lives quietly and unnoticed, we hate the Alphabet Soup Nuts too. Unfortunately, pro-Soup and Leftoids run our media and have infested our government just like in the States and other Western countries -- see the BBC and Doctor Who, fucking fetish freaks talking to children in libraries, as examples.

It's not a binary thing.

2. The Church of England is pretty much a joke.

3. Outside of London (which is like its own country now culturally) and the main cities, the average person is sick to death of foreigners basically swamping us when our infrastructure is already struggling to support the existing amount of people in the country -- especially Pakistanis, Muslims, and Eastern Europeans and the troubles they bring.

Oh, and Blacks, no matter their origin (e.g. migrant or born here), who try to pull the race/culture card constantly (note that if they're just regular people who are Black, no-one cares, but it's when they try to pull the same shit you're seeing in the States that their acting in such a way becomes an issue).

4. Yeah, our police forces are as bad as stated: it's pretty much Thought Police and covering up Muslim rape and grooming gangs in case it causes "offence"/racism. People are actually becoming more and more disgusted and uncooperative with our coppers on the whole.

Pretty much this.

1.Yes atheists can be conservative, and while their current conservative beliefs are good, they are not solid. They have ironically built their ideology and morality on sand. Christianity, or any religion really(Christianity is just the best cause it's true) makes sure you have a solid foundation on which to base eternal values and rejects moral relativism.
After all it's only when people stopped believing that all this nonsense started happening, that is undeniable. Say what you will about Islam, but at least they prevented secularists from eroding their morality.

2. Yes the Anglicans are a joke. They are a joke and it's because of their own beliefs and actions with atheist priests, women priests, gay bishops, etc. Again the fault of people who stopped believing.

3. Again, I'm not racially British, I don't share a kinship with you. I'm Eastern European so don't really feel much sympathy for you people being racist, being lazy importing foreigners and your laws and culture being unable to handle policing.

4. Again, that is a problem that the British built themselves, it's the same sort of cuckoldry that allows people to bow before a monarch who they never met, and revere them above their own families. American culture is infinitely superior, and Americans should recognize it, and we should try and purge the influence of Anglophiles.
Again I don't necessarily hate your people or wish you ill, I'd rather you just stop trying to manipulate America's internal politics for your benefit.

 

[Jormungandr]

1.Yes atheists can be conservative, and while their current conservative beliefs are good, they are not solid. They have ironically built their ideology and morality on sand. Christianity, or any religion really(Christianity is just the best cause it's true) makes sure you have a solid foundation on which to base eternal values and rejects moral relativism.
After all it's only when people stopped believing that all this nonsense started happening, that is undeniable. Say what you will about Islam, but at least they prevented secularists from eroding their morality.

2. Yes, the Anglicans are a joke. They are a joke and it's because of their own beliefs and actions with atheist priests, women priests, gay bishops, etc. Again the fault of people who stopped believing.

3. Again, I'm not racially British, I don't share a kinship with you. I'm Eastern European so don't really feel much sympathy for you people being racist, being lazy importing foreigners and your laws and culture being unable to handle policing.

4. Again, that is a problem that the British built themselves, it's the same sort of cuckoldry that allows people to bow before a monarch who they never met, and revere them above their own families. American culture is infinitely superior, and Americans should recognize it, and we should try and purge the influence of Anglophiles.
Again I don't necessarily hate your people or wish you ill, I'd rather you just stop trying to manipulate America's internal politics for your benefit.

1. Ordinary morality which we all follow was built upon Christian morality once upon a time, but that time has passed: you don't have to be religious to be a good person or to be disgusted by what degenerates and Lefties push. Again, you're thinking binary (yes or no).

That morality "isn't built on sand" just because atheists like myself don't believe in a bunch of fairy stories or a Flying Spaghetti Monster (who actually acts like a complete monster in the Old Testament, so yeah).

2. Yeah, the Church of England is a complete joke these days, no doubt about it. They've made so many compromises over time that they've basically lost their way, IMHO.

3. You can blame our government for most of our problems, including policing policies. Most of the higher ups are "who you know, not what you know/your experience". sigh The major decline started when that cunt Blair became Prime Minister.

4. Given that, a few scandals aside, the Royal Family has done a fuck ton for charity, promotes unity, and most are stand up people (though, I guess since you consider people who aren't following "Christian morals" to have theirs built on sand, that probably means little to you). We like them/they are cultural icons for a reason, and there are many reasons why the Republican twats are considered jokes/unpleasant people to deal with.

Putting them above your own kith and kin is a stupid thing though, agreed.

5. American culture is superior? I hate to burst your bubble, but there are so many things wrong with American culture on a fundamental level that are horrifically bad, and there are far too many for me to list here outside of a major few, such as the laws being over a hundred years out of date/based on morality panic, the healthcare system, the standard of living actually being lower than in European countries, the country's actual infrastructure decaying over the decades to a pitiful degree, the unwillingness to actually try to improve said infrastructure (especially in the financial sectors -- even methods for paying for a fucking meal or service are like thirty, forty years behind European countries and even fucking Russia!), and government bureaucracy proverbially smothering everything from opening a new bank account to getting a driving license.

Every country has its pros and cons, and I'm sure Americans find a lot wrong with the UK's culture in their eyes, but "America is the superior culture?" Fuck no. If anything, they're decaying and stuck in the past, and the recent troubles wracking the country are highlighting them.

America's golden age ended decades ago. It's been decline, decline, decline since then.

 

[LordsFire]

That morality "isn't built on sand" just because atheists like myself don't believe in a bunch of fairy stories or a Flying Spaghetti Monster (who actually acts like a complete monster in the Old Testament, so yeah).

Given you're an atheist, you probably believe in abiogenesis, and if so, you really are in no position to castigate others for believing in fairy stories.

Also, 'actually acts like a complete monster in the Old Testament' reeks of fedora-tipping atheism. Have you actually read through the old testament, or just the parts that atheists like to excerpt and present without context to cast in the worst possible light?

America's golden age ended decades ago. It's been decline, decline, decline since then.

Here I would agree with you. The 80's was probably the tail end of the American golden age, though people still enjoyed more or less the fullness of its effects in the 90's and 2000's.

 

[Jormungandr]

Given you're an atheist, you probably believe in abiogenesis, and if so, you really are in no position to castigate others for believing in fairy stories.

Also, 'actually acts like a complete monster in the Old Testament' reeks of fedora-tipping atheism. Have you actually read through the old testament, or just the parts that atheists like to excerpt and present without context to cast in the worst possible light?



Here I would agree with you. The 80's was probably the tail end of the American golden age, though people still enjoyed more or less the fullness of its effects in the 90's and 2000's.

Well, abiogenesis --that complex life arose from simple life, and simple life came from the eventual merging of proteins and other chemicals to form the first building blocks-- is pretty much science, so yes, I do "believe" in that over some Zeus knock-off creating the world in seven days and making a woman from a man's rib.

And, unfortunately, yes I did read the Old Testament during my Primary School years (I went to a Primary that, while not Christian, did have us sing fucking hymns every assembly since the headmaster and staff were "old school").

The Old Testament God is either completely alien to us like a Lovecraftian abomination is, or he's a fucking sociopath that tortures and blesses people for 'reasons' to have them worship him like a Third-World Dictator.

Disagree? You're threatened with hellfire. Classy.

And, given the origins of the actual Bible, and I don't mean the numerous translations and mistranslations and interpretations, the actual origins of both the Old Testament and the New Testament are convoluted and bizarre mix of being written decades after whatever event actually happened, mixing historical truths and facts in like The Brothers' Grimm did with their stories e.g. Black Forest, or being outright stolen from other religions and traditions (which, to be fair, religions did this all the time back in the ancient days -- every religion in Europe and the Middle-East can be traced back in some way to a prior one; they're all fucking mutants of a mutant)...

So, yeah -- bunch of fables, fairy stories, and bullshit in my eyes.

However, I do recognize that such bullshit does create healthy bonds between families and friends, and I view it as a necessary evil. I also recognize that, like Ancient Rome and Greece, it was a key in forming current Western civilization and values. But to be considered immoral because you don't subscribe to any of it? Yeah, nah. Bullshit.

 

[LordsFire]

Well, abiogenesis --that complex life arose from simple life, and simple life came from the eventual merging of proteins and other chemicals to form the first building blocks-- is pretty much science

Explain it to me then. Nobody has ever been able to do this before, so I'm certainly interested in hearing what it is that makes you so confident about this. Might be appropriate to do it in another thread or PM then.

 

[Jormungandr]

Explain it to me then. Nobody has ever been able to do this before, so I'm certainly interested in hearing what it is that makes you so confident about this. Might be appropriate to do it in another thread or PM then.

shrug I only have a very basic layman's concept of it, I'm afraid -- kinda like the general knowledge of the processes of evolution.

If you want in-depth knowledge, you'll have to talk to someone more educated in biology and biochemistry -- they'll be able to answer your questions in-depth.

 

[LordsFire]

shrug I only have a very basic layman's concept of it, I'm afraid -- kinda like the general knowledge of the processes of evolution.

If you want in-depth knowledge, you'll have to talk to someone more educated in biology and biochemistry -- they'll be able to answer your questions in-depth.

I can't say this surprises me.

I am someone with more than a very basic layman's concept of it. I can also reference you to people who have a lot more than that, doctoral chemists/biochemists and the like, and what they'll tell you is very simple:

Abiogenesis is complete nonsense. Beyond that, the more we discover about how biochemistry works, the more absolutely absurd the idea that it could ever happen becomes.

It is, simply put, the religious dogma of the materialistic atheists. Nothing more, nothing less.

They just cloak it in the cultural authority of science because it's useful to them to do so.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Oh look.

CPS disappears another five hundred kids.

Farnsworth is right to get the police involved, CPs murdered Senator Schaeffer back at the turn of this century over a similar report in Georgia.

 

[Jormungandr]

I can't say this surprises me.

I am someone with more than a very basic layman's concept of it. I can also reference you to people who have a lot more than that, doctoral chemists/biochemists and the like, and what they'll tell you is very simple:

Abiogenesis is complete nonsense. Beyond that, the more we discover about how biochemistry works, the more absolutely absurd the idea that it could ever happen becomes.

It is, simply put, the religious dogma of the materialistic atheists. Nothing more, nothing less.

They just cloak it in the cultural authority of science because it's useful to them to do so.

Science is grounded in reality, not mythology -- amino acids, biological and biochemical compounds? They exist and we know they exist, though to a scientist like yourself that's pretty much a given, heh.

A Sky Fairy? Show me the proof He exists, and I don't mean the Bible or "faith". Actual. Proof.

...I hear crickets.

You can claim that it's just "religious dogma" for materialistic atheists, but until I and others like me are shown conclusive proof that any god exists, I'm going with the currently accepted science that life arose from a primordial soup.

If science comes up with another credible explanation, I'm all for it; otherwise, you either believe a Sky Fairy made life or that life slowly came about from chemicals and biological compounds, which is far more plausible.

Oh look.

CPS disappears another five hundred kids.

Farnsworth is right to get the police involved, CPs murdered Senator Schaeffer back at the turn of this century over a similar report in Georgia.

I wish I could say this was surprising, but... sigh

 

[ShadowsOfParadox]

there's a thread for this discussion already, could you two take it over there instead taking over this one?

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/creationism-evolution-and-the-bible.7649/

 

[Jormungandr]

there's a thread for this discussion already, could you two take it over there instead taking over this one?

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/creationism-evolution-and-the-bible.7649/

I see enough of that on Quora; no thanks. That place can go apeshit crazy at times.

 

[LordsFire]

Science is grounded in reality, not mythology -- amino acids, biological and biochemical compounds? They exist and we know they exist, though to a scientist like yourself that's pretty much a given, heh.

A Sky Fairy? Show me the proof He exists, and I don't mean the Bible or "faith". Actual. Proof.

...I hear crickets.

You can claim that it's just "religious dogma" for materialistic atheists, but until I and others like me are shown conclusive proof that any god exists, I'm going with the currently accepted science that life arose from a primordial soup.

If science comes up with another credible explanation, I'm all for it; otherwise, you either believe a Sky Fairy made life or that life slowly came about from chemicals and biological compounds, which is far more plausible.

I wish I could say this was surprising, but... sigh

Claiming that life arose from primordial soup isn't 'science,' it is a statement of faith.

Natural sciences can show us what the physical world is like. It can help us understand what is. From what is, we can draw logical inference to what was.

Logical inference to what was, shows us that all complex systems were created by an intelligent mind. That's as far as science can go in proving the existence or lack thereof of a creator, because natural sciences are the study of the natural world.

Abiogenesis is not and never has been 'science.' It was at one point a hypothesis, but the evidence gathered has continually proven that it is a flawed hypothesis which does not fit the data. That is as far as science can take you.

The only reason there is anything remotely approaching a 'scientific consensus' about it being true, is because motivated reasoning requires that atheists believe it's true. They are ideologically driven, and must have a way of explaining where life came from without an intelligent designer of some sort existing as a precursor to life as we know it.

There is no science actually supporting this, just dogma.

If you want to discuss the subject further, we should move to PMs or another thread.

 

[Cherico]

I honestly think the entire western world is some degree of fucked up right now.

 

[Jormungandr]

Claiming that life arose from primordial soup isn't 'science,' it is a statement of faith.

Natural sciences can show us what the physical world is like. It can help us understand what is. From what is, we can draw logical inference to what was.

Logical inference to what was, shows us that all complex systems were created by an intelligent mind. That's as far as science can go in proving the existence or lack thereof of a creator, because natural sciences are the study of the natural world.

Abiogenesis is not and never has been 'science.' It was at one point a hypothesis, but the evidence gathered has continually proven that it is a flawed hypothesis which does not fit the data. That is as far as science can take you.

The only reason there is anything remotely approaching a 'scientific consensus' about it being true, is because motivated reasoning requires that atheists believe it's true. They are ideologically driven, and must have a way of explaining where life came from without an intelligent designer of some sort existing as a precursor to life as we know it.

There is no science actually supporting this, just dogma.

If you want to discuss the subject further, we should move to PMs or another thread.

Yeah, this thread's not the place for it, and I don't want to get into a philosophical debate on this (I get enough of that shit on Quora, heh).

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[bintananth]

If you abolish the family in that way incest becomes much more common because "ew, yuck, we're siblings" ceases to exist because you are naturally attracted to someone who looks somewhat like an opposite-sex version of you.

 

[Aldarion]

If you abolish the family in that way incest becomes much more common because "ew, yuck, we're siblings" ceases to exist because you are naturally attracted to someone who looks somewhat like an opposite-sex version of you.

You know that Left wants to legalize incest?