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United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

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I mean, I'll vote even if I think it wont amount to anything, I just hope i'm wrong and it isn't rigged, even if there isn;t much hope

A lot of effort is currently going into making the elections transparent and there are investigations into shenanagans that went on in 2020. Its all very slow work, but it is paying off.

Its not going to be fun, its not going to be sexy but the counter punches are being set up and the backlash against all of the fuckery is building up. It will take years for it to bear fruit but it will.
 

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Some people on here are broken about voting and think the dems will rig every election next year
2020 with corona presented unique weaknesses that are unlikely to reoccur immediately. They definitely didn't or couldn't rig 2016 enough to stop Trump.
 

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I'm surprised no one posted this immediately: Derek Chauvin has been sentenced to 22.5 years for the count of second degree murder, with adjudication pending on the other two counts. This is far less than the 30 years that the prosecution was pushing for, but significantly greater than the presumptive sentencing range established by state sentencing guidelines, which for this offense would have been a guideline range of 128 to 180 months with a presumptive sentence of 150 months (12.5 years).

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Point of legal principle: the sentencing guidelines grant the judge authority to depart from presumptive sentencing in cases where either the jury or the district court makes a factual finding of aggravating factors above and beyond the elements of the charged crime, although the court must still explain in its sentencing decision how the factual findings create a "substantial and compelling" reason to impose heavier sentence. Chauvin's defense had opted for a district court ruling on the aggravating factors, and the court ultimately found that out of the five aggravating factors claimed by the prosecution, four were factually demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt.

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In my opinion, Chauvin's defense made a *enormous* misstep in pleading for a probation-only sentence even after the court found aggravating factors. The idea that the court was going to be willing to hand down a slap on the wrist sentence after the factual finding beyond reasonable doubt of aggravating factors on a *very* serious conviction was frankly nuts. Given that Chauvin's defense has been consistently competent throughout the trial -- there's really no sign of foul play in either direction -- I don't think they would take that extreme of a bad gamble unless the client was specifically insisting on it. Whether this is *delusional* or *desperate* on Chauvin's part is an interesting question.

The most Chauvin could have realistically hoped for was a "bottom of the box" sentence of 128 months, and even that would be a significant stretch given the finding of aggravating factors. This is especially the case when the only arguments Chauvin was able to make for lenience beyond presumptive sentence -- in legal terms, a "downward durational departure" -- were his age, lack of criminal history, and "respectful attitude in court", and previous case law has already clearly established that downward durational departures are only justified based on "factors that reflect the seriousness of the offense, not the characteristics of the offender". Given that explicit precedent, a downward durational departure would likely have been overturned on appeal even if the judge granted it at sentencing.
 
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Backlash against BLM (which is a terrorist organization in my opinion), the Woke Culture & riots will give the GOP a huge boost in the 2022 Midterms.
BLM is a communist, Black Power movement. Thing is, you have people who genuinely believe that they're for racial equality, whom are pretty much the "kept in the dark" rank and file and public supporters, but the higher up you go, the more it becomes apparent that the people moving the movement, so-to-speak, know that they're a bunch of racist shitheels. They revel in it.

Hell, a founder of a chapter even left in disgust when it became apparent what BLM truly is, and one of the movement's overall founders, a self-described communist, bought herself a shit-ton of mansions in White, gated communities (par the course for communism, really).

There's light at the end of the tunnel, though: As well as with support for the Alphabet Soup Movement (yeah, turns out that people don't like having the increasingly toxic LGTBQIAKitchenSink stuff shoved down their throats constantly or being accused of being a bigot for a different opinion doesn't make popularity --- whodathunk it? /s) and AntiFa, public support for them has plummeted as time revealed their true nature more and more.
 

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BLM is just the Black Panther Party turned up to the elevens with even more money from Red China and mass support from idiotic millennials, Gen Y, and Gen Zs.

Even some of their own have left the movement after realizing the truth about it.

A second civil war is inevitable for the USA. Fighting might spill over into Canada. Would be nice if it did, gives me a chance to straighten out my homeland and serve up a few Molotovs for those Neo-Marxist shits in my country.

And the conservative/right wing victory as well.

There's going to be a huge rollback in terms of culture and everything else once the evil Leftist have been defeated.
 

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A second civil war is inevitable for the USA. Fighting might spill over into Canada. Would be nice if it did, gives me a chance to straighten out my homeland and serve up a few Molotovs for those Neo-Marxist shits in my country.
Why not be the change you wish to see in the world if you're going to spout drivel like that? Then again, a day of people here fantasizing about killing Marxists, I guess it's just a day ending in y here.
 

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Why not be the change you wish to see in the world if you're going to spout drivel like that? Then again, a day of people here fantasizing about killing Marxists, I guess it's just a day ending in y here.

I worked in fast food near a college, Marxists were by far the single worst customers we had, being rude assholes that always went the extra mile to make your life hell.
 

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I worked in fast food near a college, Marxists were by far the single worst customers we had, being rude assholes that always went the extra mile to make your life hell.
Rude asshole customers consistently went out of their way to announce their political affiliations while being a jerk to you?
 

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Rude asshole customers consistently went out of their way to announce their political affiliations while being a jerk to you?
Yes. It is actually very common in fast food industry.
I worked in Walmart in a pretty red area if GA. I also worked garden center.
So I didn't encounter them but they existed and were vocal in my city. As small as they were
 

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Rude asshole customers consistently went out of their way to announce their political affiliations while being a jerk to you?
they were by far the worst.

I dealt with a wide varity of people.

I mean people give vegans shit for being annoying but honestly Vegans and Vegitarians tend to only be douche bags when they just get started in the life stile most mellow out after a year.

Marxist customers and you would know them were just plain fucking mean and were the most self rightous assholes I've ever met. I mean I've dealt with hard core fundies and they were much nicer then these guys.


As for the best customers?

The openly gay customers were some of the best I had though you always knew when some one just got out of the closet because they over compensated for around 6 months till a year you know until they got comfortable in their skin.

Miltary customers were close, people who eat milatary food gain an appreciation for litterally anything else. A basically good crowd.
 
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Michael Tracey talks liberal intransigence with acknowledging the reality of the current crime wave.

It’s funny. Because on the one hand, a highly savvy online pundit cohort tells us that concern over this trend is the product of mindless media propaganda, or some other confluence of “non-organic” trickery. It can’t possibly be a reasonable response to the empirical reality that homicide rates in many places across the country are surpassing their all-time highs set in the late 80s and early 90s. (And these people don’t see it as extraordinarily condescending to lecture inner-city residents that the growing violent crime problem they perceive in their own neighborhoods is actually an illusion. Also funny.)
And yet on the other hand, when I reflect on my two-month trip across the United States last summer, surveying the destruction of the most widespread riots in at least 50 years — I don’t remember a whole lot of national media attention being paid to the emergence of these violent crime trends. Instead, it looked more like a concerted media coverup. Not a conspiracy, exactly: but a gaping epistemic blindspot driven by a confluence of political and institutional pressures.
 

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"Bryant and other legal experts told KARE 11 that a federal plea bargain might include an agreement by Chauvin not to appeal his state conviction."

Is that even legal? Can you make a plea bargain to forfeit appealing a criminal conviction?
 

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"Bryant and other legal experts told KARE 11 that a federal plea bargain might include an agreement by Chauvin not to appeal his state conviction."

Is that even legal? Can you make a plea bargain to forfeit appealing a criminal conviction?
Yes.
Basically plea bargains can make a lot of things change. They can negate what he does and the like.
Well AFAIK.

I doubt his lawyer will tell him to take it. His lawyer should tell him to appeal as it is the best chance he has
 

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Yes.
Basically plea bargains can make a lot of things change. They can negate what he does and the like.
Well AFAIK.

I doubt his lawyer will tell him to take it. His lawyer should tell him to appeal as it is the best chance he has
Should, yes.

Given Epstein as an example, well, who knows who's saying what to his lawyer? Or Chauvin himself?

What's going on in the background is the real mystery.
 

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Is that even legal? Can you make a plea bargain to forfeit appealing a criminal conviction?
Not only is it legal, it's more or less standard practice in cases where federal and state charges are both brought against a defendant. A plea bargain is a guilty plea, after all, and it makes very little legal or practical sense to simultaneously plead guilty and plead innocent.
 

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BLM is just the Black Panther Party turned up to the elevens with even more money from Red China and mass support from idiotic millennials, Gen Y, and Gen Zs.

Even some of their own have left the movement after realizing the truth about it.

A second civil war is inevitable for the USA. Fighting might spill over into Canada. Would be nice if it did, gives me a chance to straighten out my homeland and serve up a few Molotovs for those Neo-Marxist shits in my country.

And the conservative/right wing victory as well.

There's going to be a huge rollback in terms of culture and everything else once the evil Leftist have been defeated.

BLM doesnt get money from Red China, They get all they need from the fake charity NGOs and Corporate America.
 

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Michael Tracey talks liberal intransigence with acknowledging the reality of the current crime wave.
Due to their alliance with ideological left, DNC is stuck in a gordian knot regarding crime policy. Between the fact that some traditional "tough on crime" methods are proven and reliable way to deal with it, while the necessities of leftist thinking and especially lately race focused narratives demand, most ridiculous (reaching levels of abolishing police and prisons, yes, really, by abolish, they really do mean get rid of them completely) soft on crime, criminal friendly policies, especially for criminals who happen to be nonwhite. Of course combined with demand to excuse and downplay any implication of criminals and the people who raised and taught them being at fault, as opposed to leftist political narratives like guns, poverty or a variety of -isms you can all guess being the true reasons behind high crime rates.
So they are faced with a choice of doing all sorts of things that will be acceptable to, or even popular with anyone sympathetic to any sort of leftist or left-liberal narratives on the matter, which also happens to be a significant voting majority in the cities experiencing worst crime waves now...
Or they can do something that will work, in some time, and have their own supporters turn on them over it, possibly even riot, and call them traitors of this and that cause.
BLM doesnt get money from Red China, They get all they need from the fake charity NGOs and Corporate America.
Or does it? :unsure:
The "fake charity NGOs", their leadership and their funding would be the most obvious place to look.
That's on MSN, not some possibly biased right wing site.
“Black Futures Lab is a fiscally sponsored project of the Chinese Progressive Association,” the website reads.

CPA was founded in San Francisco in the early 1970s and continues to be a partner of the People's Republic of China. A 2009 Stanford University paper documented its Marxist ties, saying that “the CPA began as a Leftist, pro-People’s Republic of China organization, promoting awareness of mainland China’s revolutionary thought and workers’ rights, and dedicated to self-determination, community control, and ‘serving the people.'”
And more right wing but still mainstream Heritage also has an article on this, going a bit more in depth.

Ah, yes, by the way, "community control". That's a very useful term to remember for describing all the leftist activism in cities, its goals and its effects.
 
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