Many asked for a deletion, there was a small banning binge, and then there's Lord Invictus. There is a thread that lists the banned members with some of the reasoning.
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- Thread starter LordSunhawk
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One is Zoe's old account, the other is her alt Tyanna of Pentos and finally the last is Invictus.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I am pretty sure they were two different people
No, those were the same people.
KilroywasNOTHere
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wait she was Tyanna of Pentos?
ShieldWife
Marchioness
KilroywasNOTHere
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huh, she seemed nice.
The Mandarin
Claim, Assert, Dominate.
Mods having dupes lol.
KilroywasNOTHere
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ShieldWife
Marchioness
Yeah, Zoe was generally pretty nice. Zoe was also Punch Card Girl and Captain General.
LI was involved in a private discord that has some membership crossover with TS that kicked him for continual breaking of that Discord's rules. In a fit in the aftermath he began sending harssing PMs to staff members and calling out TS staff on his wall on a percieved conspiracy concerning his failed bid to purchase the site including revealing private correspondence between himself, Zoe, and other staff members. For this he was just given a temp ban. Upon receiving this temp ban he began to attempt to gather personal information about staff members up to and including spear phishing attempts against some, who were informed of the efforts by the organizations he contacted to attempt to gather information from. After further discussion and communication with law enforcement and the relevant staff members security officers from their places of employment, it was decided to elevate his ban to permanent.
Suffice to say, his ban will not be up for review.
CarlManvers2019
Writers Blocked Douchebag
I remember her using Captain-General before using Tyanna of Pentos
Never heard of “Punch Card Girl”
ShieldWife
Marchioness
You can do a search, there is some discussion about mods having multiple accounts where that one is discussed.
Zoe was nice. Very ideosynchratic and we'll spoken. Even if you don't agree with Zoe, the debate was well worth having.
That's why I think it's a tragedy that the schism happened.
To be honest, this "multiple accounts" thing seems like a bad idea to me. Would be better if mods just used one account, and don't moderate the threads they posted in.
Tragic it might be, but she decided to go behind our back rather than being open about what she wanted, and I think we are all better off for her selling the forum.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
That thread hasn't been updated since October, and most bans to that point weren't even announced in it.
LindyAF
Well-known member
Would the primary goal of this just be to limit new members from using the politics thread until they show good behavior? Subforum bans seem like they would already do the job of booting people from specifically politics, unless I'm misunderstanding those. A separate user-group seems like a complicated way to achieve that, but then again I've got no idea how the mechanics of this place work so if that's how you have to do it, that's how you have to do it. Could you just prevent anyone who still has like a "new member" tag from posting in that subforum?
I'd worry about long term creating a rift between the Politics user-group and the rest of the forum, since that sort of thing seems unhealthy for forums. I guess that's a long term consideration though, and if you're worried about keeping the lights on here right now, it probably doesn't take priority.
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I think it would be wise if we left politics closed for the next month. People around here have other forms of communication. The sub-forum thread has been shut down how many times in the past few months? Give it a break, let people talk about it elsewhere.
That said, I would recommend having two different forums. One labelled "Rumors & Kneejerks" where people can speculate and guess and another more formal sub-forum where we can deal with facts and actual political positions. Because I see a lot of people kneejerking to news and spreading gossip instead of actually debating real politics.
MrBirthday
Agent of Catgirl Genocide
Honestly, I think this site's natural niche is as a draw for right-leaning creative types (and their audience) that suffered from politically-biased moderation at other sites. (Or for that matter, left-leaning creative types who found the mods nominally on "their side" to be a bunch of officious jerks.)
The irony here is that as far as I know, most of the mods here only have one account. Spartan, LTR, Tippy, S'task, and most of the old SB mods only use one account here to my knowledge. Only Zoe and a few of her friends like Comet used alt accounts to any major extent.
That said, I agree this policy is a problem, it greatly put a rift between the users and staff over the past few months. For instance, when Timothy C kept arguing about politics with other users, locking threads and suddenly people kept getting unknowingly getting temp bans for minor offenses from Devastator it didn't really paint a pretty picture on the staff when it was revealed that Timothy an Comet were one and the same.
In other honest words I would suggest Sunhawk phase out this rule.
EDIT: Also Urabask why are you still banned doesn't your infraction expire this month?