No I didn't, I have specified Hamas/Gaza directly in this thread.I never insisted you used words you didn't use, you literally said Palestinians and I was answering that post.
Check the search function; before the post you just replied to, I have not used the word Palestinians once in this thread.
Now, I am convinced you actually meant Palestinians, and that it was a verbal slip. You literally said, Palestinians, and I answered it as such. Also, this thread is only five pages long, and you have posted only 15 times... Though, you have mentioned Palestinians elsewhere and have spoke at length about how you don't think their existence as a people is legitimate...
I specified Gaza/Hamas for a reason here, in this thread, and that is what we are talking about.So you know what, I know believe you actually meant it. As it aligns with what you have said elsewhere. You literally went at length at how you don't believe they exist as a people right here. You are calling them a fake ethnicity in response to me believing that you said that the Palestinians as a people should be crushed. I mean if you didn't believe that, why would you go on a rant about them not being a real people?
I do not believe that the lie of a 'Palestinian nation' should be humored, but I did not say to treat the West Bank the same way or represents the same level of threat (at the moment) that Hamas inside Gaza does.
The West Bank should be under the control of either Israel or Jordan, but Hamas doesn't control the West Bank and is not the issue at hand.
You are again making the mistake of positing all 'morals' are the same and that they are universal across situations and cultures.And since you don't believe morality is universal, than you believe that morality changes from situation to situation. Nothing is universally right or wrong, but is entirely depending on each instance. Sounds rather convenient doesn't it?
This has never been the case, and many cultures would have considered it immoral to leave a threat like Gaza in the way it was for so long, without directly annexing it or leveling it in revenge for the death cult of Hamas's repeated attacks on Israel.
Also, friend/enemy distinction is a moral one, because it is what allows survival against trickery and deceit by people trying to use morals they don't follow against people who do.
He has already provided proof, you just didn't like it/accept it, because you are on another 'moral highhorse' crusade against people who simply recognize the level of threat Hamas represents and the methods the group has used to turn Gaza into a death cult camp.So, rather than actually prove your point. You take one particular event, and then give me a list of terrorist attacks. Yes, it was an act of horrific slaughter and terror, but it is one event.
This isn't what I asked for. Either put up, or shut up. I asked for proof, and you tried to pull a fast one.
And really, if Israel is committed to a two-state solution- then why do they continue to expand settlements?
Settlement Expansion in Occupied Palestinian Territory Violates International Law, Must Cease, Many Delegates Tell Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
Pointing to ongoing expansion of Israeli settlements, demolition of Palestinian structures, daily violence and continued inflammatory rhetoric by their Government representatives, a senior United Nations official reiterated to the Security Council the Secretary-General’s appeal for an end to the...press.un.org
Or why do Israeli settlers commit acts of violence against Palestinians, and attempt to push them off their land?
UN reports says West Bank settler violence has displaced over 1,100 Palestinians since 2022
A U.N. report says over 1,100 Palestinians have fled their homes in the West Bank since the start of 2022 due to Israeli settler violence.apnews.com
3 small Palestinian villages emptied out this summer. Residents blame Israeli settler attacks
United Nations monitors say three small Palestinian herding villages have emptied out over the past four months, with residents blaming mounting violence by Israeli settlers.apnews.com
Yep, totally committed to the two-state solution.
Again, provide what I am asking for. You made a factual claim and refused to provide actual evidence.
See, you cannot even refute that Hamas and Islamic Jihad effectively control Gaza with the support of most of the population, and that anyone who operates in Gaza has to do so with Hamas's blessing/permission."All north koreans should be killed, because they all worship a slaver."
And you have the survival instinct of dodo bird, and the tactical acumen of Gildroy Lockheart.Same logic, same lack of morals. You have the moral capacity of a chimp.
If the kids are willing/able to use suicide vest, RPGs/ATGMs, and be willing human shields, the become combatants, and if their parents keep them in areas as human shields/teach them to be willing human shields, then yes, you have to kill some of them too."Just to be sure there are no bad guys, better murder all of the children too"
It's horrible, but that's the nature of the enemy who Israel is dealing with, and the level of societal indoctrination Hamas has accomplished.
Israel has tried the other way for many, many years, and is still putting a lot of people at risk to do things the 'nice' way in Gaza.
No, you are just a petty and spiteful AnCap who has a pedantic stick up their ass about many things, and doesn't like how I call out your naivety about military and geopolitical affairs.Fuck off. You advocate for every war there is. You lust for blood. At least a Neonazi is honest about their evil.
I'd prefer a peaceful world, it's a lot easier to live in and lot of shit is cheaper; but the enemy gets a vote too, and it seems most of them have voted for war and conflict when the west has attempted peace.
This is war, kids die anyway, and I'm not the one who indocs them to become willing human shields and suicide bombers, or who teaches them that every Jew should be killed."I'm scum who wants innocent kids to die" -Bacle
I'd just prefer Hamas be eliminated for good so fewer Israeli kids die in the future.
After all, Israeli's/Jews cried with the US on 9/11, the people in Gaza and the people in Hamas cheered; I haven't forgotten the enemy there to the US, just because you have.
You are forgetting that those Christians still are effectively willing human shields for Hamas if they have remained in Gaza to this point, and that Hamas killed plenty of Jewish babies on Oct 7th.Again, you completely failed to actually address my points: There are innocent people in Gaza. There are Christians, the polling data consistently has them having an under 50% approval, there are babies, etc. You being fine with there death makes you a bad person. You make no difference between good and evil, you just want death because they have the audacity to be victims of Hamas that you don't recognize. Your utter lack of humanity is not surprising. But that's what you do Bacle: you disappoint in everything.
I simply would not play the game Hamas has wanted, and believe me they wanted Israel to move into Gaza on the ground so they could kill even more Jews/Israelis, and dealt with Hamas like the fucking terrorist scum they are while minimizing risk to IDF/Israeli troops.
Also, I don't give a fuck about your view of me, since you are an AnCap and have shown repeatedly that you care more about being pedantic and petty over stupid shit and try to push your NAP morals on the rest of us.
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