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Abhorsen

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Makes sense, but all this proves to Iran is that they can get away with this shit, posturing or not. They'll keep escalating.
Sorta the reverse. They knew they could get away with it, or at least were pretty confident. It's not much of an escalation, and is less of a provocation that what Iran usually does.

Basically, this is diplomacy, and both sides do it to de-escalate because both sides have vocal populations with power. Remember, Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the middle east outside of Israel. Iran needed to do something, so they did.
 

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Sorta the reverse. They knew they could get away with it, or at least were pretty confident. It's not much of an escalation, and is less of a provocation that what Iran usually does.

Basically, this is diplomacy, and both sides do it to de-escalate because both sides have vocal populations with power. Remember, Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the middle east outside of Israel. Iran needed to do something, so they did.
Iran is no more democratic than any local monarchies or dictatorships. That is they have to throw some bones to their support base sometimes on account of preferring to not get an Arab Spring, but that's as far as democracy goes, the rest is charades - some bother with those (Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon), some don't (monarchies).

The fairy tales of both sides wanting de-escalation are better left in western academia.
If Iran wanted de-escalation, it would not be having IRGC honchos doing, well we all know must be very interesting things in or close to Lebanon, with we all know who, and we all know what for, which is something that definitely doesn't sound like de-escalation.
This is no some one off tit for tat event, just a part of a long lasting and complicated proxy war that Iran wages on the western powers and their allies in the region, inseparable from what's happening with the Houthis, Hezbollah, Iraq and few other places aswell, and if you haven't noticed, Iran has gotten quite a bit more heavy handed and less covert in that proxy war over the last few years.
 

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If Iran wanted de-escalation, it would not be having IRGC honchos doing, well we all know must be very interesting things in or close to Lebanon, with we all know who, and we all know what for, which is something that definitely doesn't sound like de-escalation.
They don't want an outright war with Israel (or they'd just declare war). That's the level of deescalation they want. They want tensions at about this level, where Israel has to deal with terrorists, but Iran doesn't have real blowback.

Look, it's quite obvious they wanted de-escalation: they did something they knew would be perceived as retaliation but do no actual damage. This is literally how diplomacy is done.
 

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They don't want an outright war with Israel (or they'd just declare war). That's the level of deescalation they want. They want tensions at about this level, where Israel has to deal with terrorists, but Iran doesn't have real blowback.
We both know that declarations of war are generally uncool these days, especially when you have an opponent that one is more restrained by legalities and appearances of their side of the fight than your own.
Which is why Iran won't declare war, and neither will Israel. But that has little to do with what each will do in practical rather than legal terms.
Look, it's quite obvious they wanted de-escalation: they did something they knew would be perceived as retaliation but do no actual damage. This is literally how diplomacy is done.
It did some actual damage. Very little, but that's more telling of Israel's missile defenses (only few ballistic missiles got through out of hundreds of munitions) than Iranian intent.
If they fired some handful of cruise missiles, or only shaheds, i could believe the theory that it was meant to do no damage, but as it is, it was a pretty serious test for Israeli defenses.
They passed pretty well, but it's war, shit can happen.
If Iran cared about doing no damage, it would have to consider such scenarios as Israelis fucking up some part of their missile defense for any reason at all that neither they nor Israelis would know of beforehand, and then such random or other side based surprises ruining the whole plan.
Judging by scale and type of attack, this was indistinguishable from a pretty good try at doing damage, they would struggle to make a much better one, and it would cost them a lot to do it.
Which is why Israel seems to opt for retaliation, and we both know it won't be a "no damage done" kind of retaliation in their case.
And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:
 
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We both know that declarations of war are generally uncool these days, especially when you have an opponent that one is more restrained by legalities and appearances of their side of the fight than your own.
Which is why Iran won't declare war, and neither will Israel. But that has little to do with what each will do in practical rather than legal terms.

It did some actual damage. Very little, but that's more telling of Israel's missile defenses (only few ballistic missiles got through out of hundreds of munitions) than Iranian intent.
If they fired some handful of cruise missiles, or only shaheds, i could believe the theory that it was meant to do no damage, but as it is, it was a pretty serious test for Israeli defenses.
They passed pretty well, but it's war, shit can happen.
If Iran cared about doing no damage, it would have to consider such scenarios as Israelis fucking up some part of their missile defense for any reason at all that neither they nor Israelis would know of beforehand, and then such random or other side based surprises ruining the whole plan.
Judging by scale and type of attack, this was indistinguishable from a pretty good try at doing damage, they would struggle to make a much better one, and it would cost them a lot to do it.
Which is why Israel seems to opt for retaliation, and we both know it won't be a "no damage done" kind of retaliation in their case.
And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:

...They tried to blow up Israel but ended up blowing themselves up.

Yeah, sounds about right. :ROFLMAO:
 

The Whispering Monk

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...They tried to blow up Israel but ended up blowing themselves up.

Yeah, sounds about right. :ROFLMAO:
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Husky_Khan

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And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:


Might explain the media reports of explosions over Northern Iraq. People were like Kurdish Air Defense must be intercepting missiles and drones when it was likely just the Kurdish terrain intercepting them.

Blessed be the martyrs though. They have sacrificed themselves much like the honored heroes on board Ukrainian Airlines 752. Nobly, Selflessly, Unasked and Without Expectation of Reward... 😔
 

Husky_Khan

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The Israeli retaliation to the Iranian Missile and Drone attack (which itself was a retaliation) on Israel targeting an airbase in Isfahan in Iran. Isfahan is Iran's third largest city and the base was the location of some of Iran's F-14 Tomcat Fighters. Iran reported that they wouldn't respond because all three of the Israeli missiles were shot down while Israel seems to be claiming the strike was a success.

Preliminary satellite imagery seems to indicate that an Iranian S-300 Air Defense system may have been struck and one of their S-300 radars potentially destroyed.









 

Husky_Khan

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Analysis on the Ballistic Missiles that actually struck the Israeli Airbase in the Negev Desert of Southern Israel and what, if anything, was struck by the Iranian missiles.

 

SoliFortissimi

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You know, the Globalists never had a greater ally than Iran and its proxies. Give these idiots just five more years and Isolationism will be about as viable a political position as Libertarianism.

The only beneficiaries are the Wahabbis and the Western globalists. The only losers are the isolated Islamists (like the Taliban), and the Marxists.
 

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