Israeli-Hamas War News & Updates

[Abhorsen]

Makes sense, but all this proves to Iran is that they can get away with this shit, posturing or not. They'll keep escalating.

Sorta the reverse. They knew they could get away with it, or at least were pretty confident. It's not much of an escalation, and is less of a provocation that what Iran usually does.

Basically, this is diplomacy, and both sides do it to de-escalate because both sides have vocal populations with power. Remember, Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the middle east outside of Israel. Iran needed to do something, so they did.

 

[Marduk]

Sorta the reverse. They knew they could get away with it, or at least were pretty confident. It's not much of an escalation, and is less of a provocation that what Iran usually does.

Basically, this is diplomacy, and both sides do it to de-escalate because both sides have vocal populations with power. Remember, Iran is one of the most democratic countries in the middle east outside of Israel. Iran needed to do something, so they did.

Iranian activist says Iranian people support Israel | The Jerusalem Post

While tensions soar between Israel and Iran in the wake of the Gaza war and ensuing proxy battles across the Middle East, voices from within the Islamic regime call to support Israel.

www.jpost.com

What do Iranians think of Israel? Their views might surprise you

Anyone familiar with Iranian society knows that anti-Israel attitudes have mostly failed to go beyond the most vociferous supporters of the regime despite years of attempted forced indoctrination.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Iran is no more democratic than any local monarchies or dictatorships. That is they have to throw some bones to their support base sometimes on account of preferring to not get an Arab Spring, but that's as far as democracy goes, the rest is charades - some bother with those (Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon), some don't (monarchies).

The fairy tales of both sides wanting de-escalation are better left in western academia.
If Iran wanted de-escalation, it would not be having IRGC honchos doing, well we all know must be very interesting things in or close to Lebanon, with we all know who, and we all know what for, which is something that definitely doesn't sound like de-escalation.
This is no some one off tit for tat event, just a part of a long lasting and complicated proxy war that Iran wages on the western powers and their allies in the region, inseparable from what's happening with the Houthis, Hezbollah, Iraq and few other places aswell, and if you haven't noticed, Iran has gotten quite a bit more heavy handed and less covert in that proxy war over the last few years.

 

[Abhorsen]

If Iran wanted de-escalation, it would not be having IRGC honchos doing, well we all know must be very interesting things in or close to Lebanon, with we all know who, and we all know what for, which is something that definitely doesn't sound like de-escalation.

They don't want an outright war with Israel (or they'd just declare war). That's the level of deescalation they want. They want tensions at about this level, where Israel has to deal with terrorists, but Iran doesn't have real blowback.

Look, it's quite obvious they wanted de-escalation: they did something they knew would be perceived as retaliation but do no actual damage. This is literally how diplomacy is done.

 

[Marduk]

They don't want an outright war with Israel (or they'd just declare war). That's the level of deescalation they want. They want tensions at about this level, where Israel has to deal with terrorists, but Iran doesn't have real blowback.

We both know that declarations of war are generally uncool these days, especially when you have an opponent that one is more restrained by legalities and appearances of their side of the fight than your own.
Which is why Iran won't declare war, and neither will Israel. But that has little to do with what each will do in practical rather than legal terms.

Look, it's quite obvious they wanted de-escalation: they did something they knew would be perceived as retaliation but do no actual damage. This is literally how diplomacy is done.

It did some actual damage. Very little, but that's more telling of Israel's missile defenses (only few ballistic missiles got through out of hundreds of munitions) than Iranian intent.
If they fired some handful of cruise missiles, or only shaheds, i could believe the theory that it was meant to do no damage, but as it is, it was a pretty serious test for Israeli defenses.
They passed pretty well, but it's war, shit can happen.
If Iran cared about doing no damage, it would have to consider such scenarios as Israelis fucking up some part of their missile defense for any reason at all that neither they nor Israelis would know of beforehand, and then such random or other side based surprises ruining the whole plan.
Judging by scale and type of attack, this was indistinguishable from a pretty good try at doing damage, they would struggle to make a much better one, and it would cost them a lot to do it.
Which is why Israel seems to opt for retaliation, and we both know it won't be a "no damage done" kind of retaliation in their case.

Israel in favour of retaliation after war council meeting - "We are not finished", they make clear - ProtoThema English

Israelis call Iran the world community's greatest enemy - Israel's next moves scenarios - Biden calls for Biden to avoid escalation

en.protothema.gr

And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:

 

[Jormungandr]

We both know that declarations of war are generally uncool these days, especially when you have an opponent that one is more restrained by legalities and appearances of their side of the fight than your own.
Which is why Iran won't declare war, and neither will Israel. But that has little to do with what each will do in practical rather than legal terms.

It did some actual damage. Very little, but that's more telling of Israel's missile defenses (only few ballistic missiles got through out of hundreds of munitions) than Iranian intent.
If they fired some handful of cruise missiles, or only shaheds, i could believe the theory that it was meant to do no damage, but as it is, it was a pretty serious test for Israeli defenses.
They passed pretty well, but it's war, shit can happen.
If Iran cared about doing no damage, it would have to consider such scenarios as Israelis fucking up some part of their missile defense for any reason at all that neither they nor Israelis would know of beforehand, and then such random or other side based surprises ruining the whole plan.
Judging by scale and type of attack, this was indistinguishable from a pretty good try at doing damage, they would struggle to make a much better one, and it would cost them a lot to do it.
Which is why Israel seems to opt for retaliation, and we both know it won't be a "no damage done" kind of retaliation in their case.

Israel in favour of retaliation after war council meeting - "We are not finished", they make clear - ProtoThema English

Israelis call Iran the world community's greatest enemy - Israel's next moves scenarios - Biden calls for Biden to avoid escalation

en.protothema.gr

And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:

...They tried to blow up Israel but ended up blowing themselves up.

Yeah, sounds about right.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

...They tried to blow up Israel but ended up blowing themselves up.

Yeah, sounds about right.

 

[Husky_Khan]

And then there's also the part where shit did in fact happen on their side, which puts a rather poor shade on the supposed IRAN STRONK message:

Might explain the media reports of explosions over Northern Iraq. People were like Kurdish Air Defense must be intercepting missiles and drones when it was likely just the Kurdish terrain intercepting them.

Blessed be the martyrs though. They have sacrificed themselves much like the honored heroes on board Ukrainian Airlines 752. Nobly, Selflessly, Unasked and Without Expectation of Reward...

 

[Husky_Khan]

The Israeli retaliation to the Iranian Missile and Drone attack (which itself was a retaliation) on Israel targeting an airbase in Isfahan in Iran. Isfahan is Iran's third largest city and the base was the location of some of Iran's F-14 Tomcat Fighters. Iran reported that they wouldn't respond because all three of the Israeli missiles were shot down while Israel seems to be claiming the strike was a success.

Preliminary satellite imagery seems to indicate that an Iranian S-300 Air Defense system may have been struck and one of their S-300 radars potentially destroyed.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Analysis on the Ballistic Missiles that actually struck the Israeli Airbase in the Negev Desert of Southern Israel and what, if anything, was struck by the Iranian missiles.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

You know, the Globalists never had a greater ally than Iran and its proxies. Give these idiots just five more years and Isolationism will be about as viable a political position as Libertarianism.

The only beneficiaries are the Wahabbis and the Western globalists. The only losers are the isolated Islamists (like the Taliban), and the Marxists.

 

[Husky_Khan]

According to the United Nations, the Gaza Health Ministry Over Estimated the Number of Civilian Casualties Suffered by thousands. Instead of over-estimating civilian dead by over thirty percent (estimated ten thousand more dead then actual) like last time, the Gaza Health Ministry apparently over-estimated the number of "Children" killed by over fifty percent, from 14,500 to 8,000 based on revisions.

United Nations halves estimate of women and children killed in Gaza

The United Nations (UN) significantly lowers its previously stated casualty list in the Gaza Strip,

nationalpost.com

 

[Husky_Khan]

US Military built their pier to support humanitarian aid being shipped to Gaza.

US confirms first aid trucks arrive via Gaza pier

It marks the opening of a new route for humanitarian aid to reach the stricken Gaza Strip.

www.bbc.com

Apparently 150 truckloads of aid can be shipped to Gaza per day using the pier.

No US troops will be coming ashore during the operation of the temporary pier and a marshalling area has been set up on the beach for the supplies.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

US Military built their pier to support humanitarian aid being shipped to Gaza.

US confirms first aid trucks arrive via Gaza pier

It marks the opening of a new route for humanitarian aid to reach the stricken Gaza Strip.

www.bbc.com

Apparently 150 truckloads of aid can be shipped to Gaza per day using the pier.

No US troops will be coming ashore during the operation of the temporary pier and a marshalling area has been set up on the beach for the supplies.

So...how long before Hamas operatives take complete control of that marshalling area and thus complete control of all those aid supplies coming in?

 

[Husky_Khan]

So...how long before Hamas operatives take complete control of that marshalling area and thus complete control of all those aid supplies coming in?

The Marshalling Area is in Israeli controlled Gaza so the transfer of aid to Hamas won't occur until it reaches Hamas controlled areas since the aid will be taken under the control UN World Food Programme at the Marshalling Area.

 

[Husky_Khan]

After one week in operation and 569 tons of aid offloaded but not yet delivered, the pier has sunk so much that operations are being temporarily suspended until repairs can be made.

US forced to halt Gaza aid deliveries after Biden admin’s $320 million ‘floating pier’ starts to sink

The U.S. confirmed that it has halted deliveries to its temporary pier on the Gaza coast after it sustained significant damage due to weather.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Marduk]

After one week in operation and 569 tons of aid offloaded but not yet delivered, the pier has sunk so much that operations are being temporarily suspended until repairs can be made.

US forced to halt Gaza aid deliveries after Biden admin’s $320 million ‘floating pier’ starts to sink

The U.S. confirmed that it has halted deliveries to its temporary pier on the Gaza coast after it sustained significant damage due to weather.

www.foxnews.com

What a beautiful metaphor for the Biden presidency.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Hamas linked media sources have declared the Humanitarian Pier established by the US Military is now a "legitimate" target due to the fact that an Israeli Helicopter landed on the beach causeway close to the pier thus indicating their support for the successful hostage rescue mission that the helicopter took part in.



Centcom denies the pier was used to support the hostage rescue operation.



Unfortunately, along with the strong sea state shutting down the pier for days at time, the UN Food Agency that is delivering shipments of food from the pier has decided to pause its operations due to the changed "security situation."

U.N. food agency pauses its aid work at U.S. pier in Gaza over security concerns

Sunday’s U.N. announcement of the pause appears the latest setback for the U.S. sea route, set up to try to bring more aid to Gaza’s starving people.

www.nbcnews.com

During the anti-piracy operations off Yemen, a Navy EA-18G Growler apparently shot down a Houthi Mi-24 Hind with an Anti-Radiation missile.

EA-18G Growler Killed A Houthi Mi-24 Hind With An AGM-88E Anti-Radiation Missile

The Navy has confirmed our suspicions that an EA-18G Growler used an AGM-88E Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missile to destroy an Mi-24 Hind.

www.twz.com

In other news from that country, the Houthis apparently "detained" eleven United Nations staff members and some other aid workers as well.

UN confirms 11 staff detained by Houthis in Yemen

The world body says it is pursuing all available channels to secure their personnel's safe release.

www.bbc.com

Yemen: Houthis Detain UN Staff and Civil Society Representatives

Houthi authorities have reportedly raided the homes and offices of at least a dozen employees of various UN agencies and nongovernmental organizations on June 6, 2024, including at least nine UN employees, detaining them, in Sanaa, Hodeidah, Saada, and Amran in Yemen.

www.hrw.org

 

[The Whispering Monk]

During the anti-piracy operations off Yemen, a Navy EA-18G Growler apparently shot down a Houthi Mi-24 Hind with an Anti-Radiation missile.

Good use.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Article on the troubled history of the Humanitarian Pier the Biden Administration which of course, was only established on May 17th and may soon be dismantled according to some media reports.

Exclusive -- Sources Say Joe Biden's Gaza Pier Is Endangering Troops' Lives for a 'Photo-Op'

The Biden administration has publicly praised American troops who are part of the risky mission to deliver aid to Gaza via a temporary pier, but behind the scenes, sources tell Breitbart News the troops' safety is being endangered for a "photo-op."

www.breitbart.com

Army Mariners having their warnings about the sea state ignored by higher ups, soldiers told to wash delivery trucks so they look nice, the area coming under machine gun and mortar fire and working with unlicensed workers, one of whom accidentally ran over a US Servicemember with a forklift and is now in critical condition reportedly.

 

[ATP]

Compilation from polish press :

1.Economist is kind of globohomo voice - and,from at least 2012,use its covers to show what they are planning for us.
2012/2013 New year cover/A rough guide to Hell/ shoved,among other things,Hamas using paraschutes to attack Natanjahu.
Till now,i thought that natanjahu made war to avoid prison for corruption - but now it is possible,that dude did what his masters ordered him to do.

2.Izrael executed 7 WCK workers - and now,two cryminals would be dissmissed from Army becouse of it.Now we knew,how much live of goim is worth.Well,those who are not palestinians.