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Might be a case Ro Khana doesn't believe in the trendy adage of "No bad tactics, only bad targets" and he understands that once that genie is out of the bag it is not going back in and the consequences of it.
Look, some people (rare, but they exist), believe in ideals.
Yep; the 'stood up for his principles' was likely just CYA papering over how he was smart enough to see how the GOP could use this against the Dems if the House and Senate flipped.
... This was a private conversation that he had no reason to believe would ever be released. Seriously, dial back the paranoia to reasonable levels please. He could have said absolutely nothing, and been fine.
 

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Look, some people (rare, but they exist), believe in ideals.

... This was a private conversation that he had no reason to believe would ever be released. Seriously, dial back the paranoia to reasonable levels please. He could have said absolutely nothing, and been fine.
I know how the Dems and their politicians work, and right now I'm more willing to accept the guy just isn't stupid and can do some political math for the future in his head, more than he actually cared about anything other than the backlash for trying to suppress the story.

Which means he's a more...clever and Forward thinking Dem than most. That's not an insult, even if he does appear to be pants on head retarded about Ukraine aid.

We will get more info over the next...however long, this could be like daily Watergate Briefing for a while.
 

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I know how the Dems and their politicians work, and right now I'm more willing to accept the guy just isn't stupid and can do some political math for the future in his head, more than he actually cared about anything other than the backlash for trying to suppress the story.

Which means he's a more...clever and Forward thinking Dem than most. That's not an insult, even if he does appear to be pants on head retarded about Ukraine aid.

We will get more info over the next...however long, this could be like daily Watergate Briefing for a while.

Yeah and call me when something is actually done about it. By which I mean to the actual people responsible and something beyond just a slap on the wrist. Because at the rate things are going it’ll be ‘some time in 10 years’ or ‘never’.
 

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Might be a case Ro Khana doesn't believe in the trendy adage of "No bad tactics, only bad targets" and he understands that once that genie is out of the bag it is not going back in and the consequences of it.

some democrats under stand the big rule of politics.

The law of retaliation where anything you unleash on others can and will be unleashed upon you sooner or later.
 

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some democrats under stand the big rule of politics.

The law of retaliation where anything you unleash on others can and will be unleashed upon you sooner or later.


WHAT RETALIATION?

Yeah and call me when something is actually done about it. By which I mean to the actual people responsible and something beyond just a slap on the wrist. Because at the rate things are going it’ll be ‘some time in 10 years’ or ‘never’.

The GOP establishment has made it abundantly clear that they don’t care about winning or the rule of law.

They won’t do anything to rock the boat because it would cut into their grifting and back-room payments. At most they’ll talk about this until the Next Big Thing comes along and let’s them sweat it under the rug.

And mark my words, they’re only going to double down against MAGA republicans getting in. Assuming all the ones that we did manage to get elected are worth their salt and aren’t just talking.
 

mrttao

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Thing is, on the face of it Nazis are the most reprehensible given they start the conversation with “I want to kill everyone who does not fit my skin tone and especially (long long series of slurs)”
Am I the only one who seem to remember that the way the story goes, Hitler did the Holocaust in utmost secrecy (which is why not a single mention of it was even caught on the enigma or by spies. Why every resulting human bone was burned to ashes, etc. at least until Stalin heroically liberated the death camps and found the evidence for us).

Because the Nazies would absolutely not tolerate a genocide. Thus requiring Hitler to do it in secret.

The official Nazi party line was "jews, like all people, deserve their own nation apart from us". which is why Hitler finances resettlement into israel?
I have family that signed up for this. got taught farming by hitler, provided with equipment, and sent to israel at nazi taxpayer expense.

I didn't even know that Haavarah was a thing that existed until I was in my late 30s. When I coincidentally started a discussion with my parents on it.
In school what I actually learned was that Hitler hated us because he was kicked out of art school. Nazies hated jews because white people racis. And Nazies made human soap, human hair blankets, and human skin lampshades.
 
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mrttao

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Remember this boys. As much as lefties are morons, they aren’t all entirely awful people. And a surprising amount of them have lines they don’t want to cross.

“Remember the human” and all that.
Literally every time there is a horrible vote, literally 100% of democrats vote for it. Never does a single one of them abstain.
some democrats under stand the big rule of politics.

The law of retaliation where anything you unleash on others can and will be unleashed upon you sooner or later.
Oddly enough, only vanishly few of them understand it
This guy seems to be one of them
 

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Am I the only one who seem to remember that the way the story goes, Hitler did the Holocaust in utmost secrecy (which is why not a single mention of it was even caught on the enigma or by spies. at least until stalin liberated the death camps).
Yes. Somebody sold you some bullshit. The British had knowledge and figures, supplied both by Polish (and other) resistance movements plus elint.

BTW - by '44/45 the "pure" death camps were long gone. Auschwitz had the death camp as sideline to manufacturing, its main purpose.

But we seem to digress ...
 

AnimalNoodles

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It actually fits my five social class better:
Laborers are primarily concerned with survival.
Merchants are primarily concerned with wealth.
The political class sacrifice wealth for power.
The priest class sacrifice everything for abstract ideals.
And it is a sin to associate with the untouchable class.

I prefer to divide things up into Strivers, Deplorables, Elites and Clients.

Elites make the rules and the values
Deplorables are those who reject the elite value system or are rejected by those values
Strivers are those who are not elite, but want to become Elite, so they adopt and enforce the elite value system
Clients are outsiders who align themselves with elites and generally behave like strivers.
 

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It got brought up in a post of Elons asking if the opinion on Snowden should be pardoned.
That post opens it up for the argument
 

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