Vyor
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Wilson was staunchly anti-war there and opposed to it throughout his presidency. Teddy and the republicans were fighting tooth and nail to get into the war so they could both end it faster and show off american power.
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Wilson was staunchly anti-war there and opposed to it throughout his presidency. Teddy and the republicans were fighting tooth and nail to get into the war so they could both end it faster and show off american power.
*spittakes*
WILSON was anti-war? WILSON? He ran the entire propaganda machine that pushed the war incessently while claiming to be against it in 1916 to get reelected by a populace who opposed the whole thing, once back in office he started mass harassment of anti-war figures including arrests, sending out the KKK to attack anti-War figures, smearing the German-American population as traitors, etc, all in order to gin up support for what he actually wanted to do.
WILSON was anti-war? WILSON? He ran the entire propaganda machine that pushed the war incessently while claiming to be against it in 1916 to get reelected by a populace who opposed the whole thing, once back in office he started mass harassment of anti-war figures including arrests, sending out the KKK to attack anti-War figures, smearing the German-American population as traitors, etc, all in order to gin up support for what he actually wanted to do.
Wilson is, perhaps, the worst president of the 20th century. His policies were so bad that there's something about them that everyone on the modern political spectrum finds fundamentally offensive if not evil.
The only thing I can think of off the top of my head that Wilson did *right* was appoint Josephus Daniels as SecNav, which gave us the Conga Line AKA the Standards.
CarlManvers2019
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You know, yeard back I read a “manga” about a German-American businessman who was a child during WWII
His family was constantly monitored to see if they were actually German spies
And his father was lucky enough to get crippled to avoid having to go end up fighting his brother who was fighting for Germany
Arch Dornan
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I know Wilson as some president during WW1 who tried to balance it out with the armistice.
Was it him who talked about birth of a Nation?
Was it him who talked about birth of a Nation?
Navarro
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I believe so, yes.
Arch Dornan
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Typical school education. Never showing the whole information.
Vyor
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Yes. His propaganda was pushing for war but his behind the scenes shit? He burned a shitload of political capital trying to keep us out of it.
Other way around, Vyor, he eventually alienated his own SecState because of his rabid pro-war views (said SecState being the only member of his cabinet who genuinely opposed the war). Prior to 1916 he was publicly anti-war while secretly financing and directing the pro-war propaganda, once he won reelection his public and private faces aligned and he started pushing hard for the US to enter the war.
Probably.
Look, Wilson is pretty much just a terrible president.
He re-segregated the military, was a huge scholar and forwarder of the "Lost Cause" narrative of Southern Secession, he pushed for more centralized and controlled government and basically thought the US Constitution was a set of guidelines rather than an actual limit. He pushed various censorship laws, supported Jim Crow, and just.
Imagine if you take the worst political cliches of modern neo-liberals and combine them with the politics of Jim Crow. You'd not be far off from what Wilson pursued.
Arch Dornan
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Re-segregated the military?
How did that affect the harlem hellfighters or African Americans in their involvement with WW1?
And when he had his stroke it is known he was planning on cancelling the 1920 elections, disbanding Congress, and declaring himself president for life on the grounds of needing total power to bring about Peace (tm). To that end he had already started laying the groundwork via his loyal agitprop outlets (ironically the excuse he intended to use was the continuing fighting in Russia, is one reason why so many US troops were deployed to Siberia).
And Beardius, Pershing basically pulled a fast one on Wilson with the Harmel Hellfighters, they were supposed to be service troops only, Pershing instead sent them to the front as combat troops. Pershing supported black troops (he'd commanded Buffalo Soldiers earlier in his career, hence his nickname of Black Jack).
And Beardius, Pershing basically pulled a fast one on Wilson with the Harmel Hellfighters, they were supposed to be service troops only, Pershing instead sent them to the front as combat troops. Pershing supported black troops (he'd commanded Buffalo Soldiers earlier in his career, hence his nickname of Black Jack).
LifeisTiresome
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Wait, really? You have sources for this cause damn.
Doomsought
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I knew that Fascism was based on his presidency, but I didn't know he had gone that far.
It has been 20 years since I did the research on this one, so it'll take me some time to dig up the sources again once I get back home where I can actually do it right.
Edgeplay_cgo
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That, and his Fourteen Points fiasco, are the reason I consider him a toss up for the worst president of all time. I hold him personally responsible for WWII, although without WWII as in @, we probably would have had a war with Stalin by 44.
That, and his Fourteen Points fiasco, are the reason I consider him a toss up for the worst president of all time. I hold him personally responsible for WWII, although without WWII as in @, we probably would have had a war with Stalin by 44.
Vyor
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Stalin wouldn't have gotten in power without Wilson mucking up WW1.
Lightershoulders
Just another, seeking.
I sincerely apologize for starting the massive derail, I didn't think that would spark into... this.
Does anyone have any more information regarding the republican storming of the impeachment inquiry?
Does anyone have any more information regarding the republican storming of the impeachment inquiry?
Edgeplay_cgo
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Lenin was already in charge at the end of WWI. I don't see why the USSR would have shaken out differently. But this is all speculation. Are those Seraphim or Cherubim dancing on the head of this pin?