Amazon Prime Rings of Power: Lord of the Rings on Amazon
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So I've watched the first seson of this, and I really do not get the hate.
It's a little slow at times, but otherwise this is a pretty awesome show, and seems like it's trying to respect the source material.
Young Elrond is particularly funny and entertaining to watch.
It's a little slow at times, but otherwise this is a pretty awesome show, and seems like it's trying to respect the source material.
Young Elrond is particularly funny and entertaining to watch.
Skallagrim
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Poe's Law in action. I genuinely can't tell if you're being sacastic, or if you just have really low standards and/or a very limited understanding of the source material that you say is being "respected" here.
My ten year old Nephew liked the show as well. He watches YouTube Shorts during the slow parts.
If you were a fan of Spike TVs chronicles of Shanara then you'd like Rings of Power.
If you were a fan of Tolkiens work, it was a titanic rape perpetrated against the canon.
If you were a fan of Tolkiens work, it was a titanic rape perpetrated against the canon.
Aldarion
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Ugh. No, it does not. In fact, I have hard time deciding whether RoP makers are simply clueless, or are actively malevolent and intentionally disrespecting the source material.
KilroywasNOTHere
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I di have one serious question of all the hills to die on why are people choosing to die on the Lord of the rings? What about it is so much more sacred than everything else? The communist and socialist have been subverting history and culture since at least a decade if not longer and everyone sleeps. Suddenly Amazon breaks canon from LOTR which by the way has been occuring since the franchise was able to be licensed and NOW suddenly we're all up in arms. It really feels like missing the Forrest for the trees.
Hollywood should have been torn asunder a long time ago.
Skallagrim
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If you want a really fantastic take on what a Second Age television series could (and should) have been, take a look at he awesome videos made by Tolkien Untangled. It completely rips apart the Amazon production, and shows how a much better -- indeed, fantastic -- series could have been crafted in its place. He's just released the penultimate video, describing the first half of a fifth season, as he'd write it. Even though his series doesn't exist, his videos on the "what if" are infinitely superior to the actual series.
Compare this idea to what we got... and it becomes impossible to honestly claim that Amazon "respected" the lore.
Compare this idea to what we got... and it becomes impossible to honestly claim that Amazon "respected" the lore.
Skallagrim
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Tolkien was and is the Grand Master. His work is a masterpiece that is not only a majestic work of fiction, but a true mythology in its own right, drawn from the traditions of Northern Europe. Furthermore, it is intrinsically imbued with Tolkien's traditionalist, localist, anti-modern, and staunchly Catholic views.
And no, we don't just hate it when they try to deserate his work. We hate them for defiling, say, Star Wars, too. But that's less personal, because it carries infinitely less emotional and intellectual weight. The bottom line is: if they can shit on Tolkien, they can shit on anything.
Mark my words: soon enough, they'll have a "historical" series that shows Jesus as a homosexual who likes getting railed by blacks. Wait for it. That's the next big step in their escalation.
And the same sub-human vermin that cheers for The Rings of Power (and yes, we even have such shills on this very site) will cheer for that, too. The funniest thing is that Tolkien himself predicted their kind and their ways of operating. The shills are the worm-tongues of this world, their brigares of statue-topplers and art-destroyers are just another legion of orcs.
One blessed day, they'll be wiped from the earth, and we'll rebuild everything they tried to destroy.
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Aldarion
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Most people are more familiar with fantasy than with actual history. And Tolkien is the foundation upon which all modern fiction is built on, one way or another.
It is also easier to shit them on that, because Tolkien's canon is written black-on-white and is out there for everybody to see. Actual history is nowhere near as clear-cut, so leftists have much wider area for propaganda.
That's already in production. It stars Paris Jackson as The Virgin Mary.
See, here's the thing, the show seems to be staying true to the spirit of Tolkien and Peter Jackson's trilogy, even if the events from the show aren't exact retellings of the events around the creation of the Rings.
I think they may be filming in New Zealand again as well, and the sets seem really well done; I can see why the show is claimed to have cost so much.
Also, the volcanic blast when Mount Doom goes up made the geologist in me giddy in it's detail and execution.
I think the hate I've seen about this show is from people who haven't actually watched it, or are being anal about holding to exact canon.
It's respecting the source material better than Disney Star Wars did, up till Rogue One, and isn't shoving wokeness into anything.
That already elevates it above about 75% of shows out there.
I think they may be filming in New Zealand again as well, and the sets seem really well done; I can see why the show is claimed to have cost so much.
Also, the volcanic blast when Mount Doom goes up made the geologist in me giddy in it's detail and execution.
I think the hate I've seen about this show is from people who haven't actually watched it, or are being anal about holding to exact canon.
It's respecting the source material better than Disney Star Wars did, up till Rogue One, and isn't shoving wokeness into anything.
That already elevates it above about 75% of shows out there.
The spirit of Tolkien...
Skallagrim
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I don't know what's more depressing: the malignant agents that seek to distort and subvert and turn everything to shit, or the cattle that's been lulled into uncritical complacency to such an extent that it not only chews and swallows the shit-- but calls it perfectly acceptable nourishment!
KilroywasNOTHere
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I'll be honest. I had this big seething rant ready to type but it's not worth my time or My anger. I'll just say this. I've been promised cleansing and false restarts for years now. I'll believe it when the palace's physically start falling and honestly when that time comes I hope the different countries of the world stay completely isolated and with zero contact from each other for at least a few years. I'm sick of being joined at the hip with Britain.
That doesn't mean is good either. Yes their is a sprinkle of gold littered here and their in dialogue, characters or visuals but those sprinkles amidst a flaming turd of an unlikeably portrayed main character, mediocre side characters, cliche story telling with modern tropes abound and a plotline based off Lost in the small scale means its terrible.
Is it Troll 2, Food Fight,or Avatar The Last Airbender level bad? No.
Is it worthy of being held up to Peter Jackson's film adaptation of The Lord Of The Rings much less it's source material? Much less holding the title of the most expensive television production of all time? No.
In spirit of your argument I do genuinely agree that on its own merits this series isn't too terrible, the problem is this show was never going to be judged on those alone from day 1.
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Aldarion
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Um, the show is pretty much purposefully designed to shit all over the spirit of Tolkien.
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It can't shove wokeness into something when the entire show is distilled wokeness.
Robovski
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What I have seen leaves me feeling the series would at best be unenjoyable for me. I have better things to do with my time than hate watching and honestly Amazon doesn't care if I love watch, hate watch or meh watch, they want me watching and so I am not. I am taking the word of my feellow geeks and nerds and substantiating it with material from promotion and reviews and I don't see where I would be having a good time. I will still enjoy my set of blu-rays, my books, LOTRO (which actually does a decent job honoring the lore, even if there is a hobbit having a picinic pizza*) and I look forward to the upcomming anime movie and Rings of Power can just not exist. Don't give it the oxygen they so desire.
*It's probably a strawberry cheesecake.
*It's probably a strawberry cheesecake.
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See, I disagree Gladreial is unlikable; I think she's intense and driven, but not unlikeable.
The pacing thing...pacing is pretty much the easiest thing to forgive, so long as the plot and characters are solid.
And the characters are solid.
I do not see any wokeness in this, unless you count black elves, dwarves and half-lings existing as it being 'woke'.Um, the show is pretty much purposefully designed to shit all over the spirit of Tolkien.
Rings of Power Commentary – Episode 1
First obvious thing about the first episode of the show is that it is a clearly attempted ripoff of Jackson’s Lord of the Rings. Introductiory narration is fundamentally Galadriel’s nar…Collections: Why Rings of Power’s Middle Earth Feels Flat
This week we’re going to take a look at the worldbuilding of Amazon Studio’s Rings of Power from a historical realism perspective. I think it is no great secret that Rings of Power broa…
It can't shove wokeness into something when the entire show is distilled wokeness.
Nor does it seem to shit on what Tolkien did, instead of more condensing some of the lore around the the Rings and their creation.
And who exactly are these bloggers and why should I care if they are butthurt about it not being exactly canon, or them misreading things as woke?
I am glad I watched it, instead of just listening to what people here have said about it
I would have missed a pretty enjoyable show if I had doen that.