Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Testing the waters?
Testing the waters?
And yet the White House insists we won't be sending troops to Ukraine.
Testing the waters?
And yet the White House insists we won't be sending troops to Ukraine.
Though I guess they could just be expecting China to make a move on Taiwan, and with so many forces in Europe watching Ukraine, maybe DC thinks a draft would be the only way to get the manpower for a fight over Taiwan at the same time.
Of course, trying to enact a draft in the US would probably lead to a civil war, because American society is not interested in being used as involuntary cannon fodder for the DC elite after what we saw in Vietnam and would sooner fight DC than fight for DC.
...You realize the DC Elite was against the Vietnam war, right?
That's the thing, the US has had shit recruiting and retention numbers for a bit now, because fewer and fewer people in the US want to sign up to be tools of DC's 'Forever War' bullshit, know about the military's shit pay and benefits compared to civie jobs and the officer cult issue in many services, and can see through military propaganda and recruitment BS easier than ever before.Also, there are many kinds of war that a draft might be instituted for. A fight over Taiwan is not one of them (unless they're just using it as an excuse). That's a conflict that would be won by sinking Chinese ships and shooting down their air force, no mass land war involved.
Earlier you said you are an ethnic Russian. Your not you are a Jew so why are you flipping back and forth? Are you salty about things from the Tsars time? Because if you are a Jew your interests should be in the Middle East not Europe.Cool stuff, can't wait to see what you'll make up next.
No need for nuclear fire, I would be satisfied by flooding Ukraine with a shitload of weapons in amounts that would dent the tectonic plate on which Ukraine stands. Assassinating Putin would also be a prudent move. After that, depending on who comes to power and whether he'd still have delusions of Russian grandeur, relations with Russia can slowly resume, Russia can finally be lifted from poverty, maybe even form a coalition with the west against China.
None of this can happen without drastically altering Russian culture though. Some people complain about American exceptionalism, but that's NOTHING compared to the country that literally has the phrase "our holy superpower" and "great glory is [Russia's] legacy for eternity" in its national anthem. That country is demented and sick to its rotten core.
Alas, it's unrealistic to expect that rotten country to change, or to go directly against it without risking a nuclear war, but one can still hope. Sanctions are an excellent start, and I hope to see more drastic measures in the future.
And Russians are not and have never been my kind, I'm Israeli. My "friend".
In a VERY enlightening twitter rant, 248k follow account Louise Mensch claims that kicking out Putin and bringing Russia to heel will be revenge for 2016, Covid misinfo, the Scottish referendum, and the Trucker Rally:
The problem with discourse about this war? People like this woman are in the driver’s seat. And yeah, she might be overtly nutty and got ratioed hard in that rant, but there are certainly many like-minded people out there, who share the idea that there’s a direct line from Brexit to Trump to anti-lockdown protestors to J6, and that line leads to Russia. 6 years of lies can do that. And no doubt, in their twisted minds, the idea is forming that after they take “revenge” on Russia, it will be time to take the “Russian puppets” at home to task.
This isn’t getting into the ballyhoo that Ukraine is a testing ground for the World Economic Forum.
She's a fake conservative former politician now journo from UK, who even fucking Buzzfeed thinks is unreliable.In a VERY enlightening twitter rant, 248k follow account Louise Mensch claims that kicking out Putin and bringing Russia to heel will be revenge for 2016, Covid misinfo, the Scottish referendum, and the Trucker Rally:
The problem with discourse about this war? People like this woman are in the driver’s seat. And yeah, she might be overtly nutty and got ratioed hard in that rant, but there are certainly many like-minded people out there, who share the idea that there’s a direct line from Brexit to Trump to anti-lockdown protestors to J6, and that line leads to Russia. 6 years of lies can do that. And no doubt, in their twisted minds, the idea is forming that after they take “revenge” on Russia, it will be time to take the “Russian puppets” at home to task.
This isn’t getting into the ballyhoo that Ukraine is a testing ground for the World Economic Forum.
Earlier you said you are an ethnic Russian. Your not you are a Jew so why are you flipping back and forth? Are you salty about things from the Tsars time? Because if you are a Jew your interests should be in the Middle East not Europe.
No I don’t think I ever asked gold ranger about his family history, I knew he was from Israel because he said so.There's almost a million Russian Jews living in Israel, and like several hundred thousand living in Russia/Ukraine including some of his relatives as he stated earlier. Leaving ethnicity aside obviously he then has interests in Europe.
Also I'm pretty sure he stated he's only like two thirds Jewish (by ethnicity) in an earlier thread. I swear he was actually telling you that for some reason IIRC. Or maybe it was LordsFire... or someone else with the two word name that was pressed together.
Familiar enough to know that the idea that the elite in DC didn't like the war is laughable.Just how familiar are you with the Vietnam war, and why it was lost?
No no, it was me. The two thirds comes from a DNA test thing I did once. Don't remember why mentioning it here was relevant to anything, but then again I have a tendency to blabber about myself sometimes, maybe it was just that.There's almost a million Russian Jews living in Israel, and like several hundred thousand living in Russia/Ukraine including some of his relatives as he stated earlier. Leaving ethnicity aside obviously he then has interests in Europe.
Also I'm pretty sure he stated he's only like two thirds Jewish (by ethnicity) in an earlier thread. I swear he was actually telling you that for some reason IIRC. Or maybe it was LordsFire... or someone else with the two word name that was pressed together.
Goddamn slavers can go choke. Fuck the draft.
Drafts are fairly common feature among even democratic countries that got rare only after the Cold War. Even then, as the current example of Russia shows, there is always a major political price to pay for using conscripts in a conflict, its big enough that even not exactly democratic countries like Russia have to consider it carefully, and its inversely proportional to how well justified and popular the war in question is to the popular opinion, so it works best for defensive wars.I think comparing the draft to slavery is a bit extreme. While there are certainly issues with how it's been used, the general concept of "as a citizen of the United States, you have certain rights and also certain duties. One of those duties is to defend the United States and its interests in wartime if required" is entirely sound. Opposition to the draft on the grounds that it's like to slavery is akin to the old "taxation is theft" argument that's used to make fun libertarians.
Drafts are fairly common feature among even democratic countries that got rare only after the Cold War.
Have you watched the Duran? Their analysis on the affect of the sanctions on Russia mentioned what you said.
No, it's slavery. It's forced labor of people who did nothing wrong and did not agree to do it. That's what slavery is. Yes, it's not as bad as US chattel slavery of the 1600-1800's, but it is still awful.I think comparing the draft to slavery is a bit extreme. While there are certainly issues with how it's been used, the general concept of "as a citizen of the United States, you have certain rights and also certain duties. One of those duties is to defend the United States and its interests in wartime if required" is entirely sound. It's in fact a something immigrants are required to swear an oath to do, and acknowledge that aspect of US citizenship. Opposition to the draft on the grounds that it's like to slavery is akin to the old "taxation is theft" argument that's used to make fun of libertarians.
I think comparing the draft to slavery is a bit extreme. While there are certainly issues with how it's been used, the general concept of "as a citizen of the United States, you have certain rights and also certain duties. One of those duties is to defend the United States and its interests in wartime if required" is entirely sound. It's in fact a something immigrants are required to swear an oath to do, and acknowledge that aspect of US citizenship. Opposition to the draft on the grounds that it's like to slavery is akin to the old "taxation is theft" argument that's used to make fun of libertarians.
Drafts are fairly common feature among even democratic countries that got rare only after the Cold War. Even then, as the current example of Russia shows, there is always a major political price to pay for using conscripts in a conflict, its big enough that even not exactly democratic countries like Russia have to consider it carefully, and its inversely proportional to how well justified and popular the war in question is to the popular opinion, so it works best for defensive wars.
Ah, here come the neocons to say why a draft isn't a bad thing and we shouldn't have objections to it.For that matter, a number of countries maintain a policy of compulsory military service and training for everyone, after which they can return to civilian life as a member of the reserves.
The military-industrial complex wasn't, neither was the US "China lobby", or some of the incompetents who misread Kennan's containment policy and made a pig's breakfast out of it....You realize the DC Elite was against the Vietnam war, right?
No, it's slavery. It's forced labor of people who did nothing wrong and did not agree to do it.
A draft is nearly always a worse evil than what it seeks to guard against.
Similarly, yes, taxation is theft. So any taxation must be for a good enough purpose to justify its inherent evil use of coercion. Unless it is so necessary to spend the money that you find going around and putting guns top peoples head's acceptable, it shouldn't be funded by tax dollars, as that is what public funding is. So for example, no, I don't think we should be providing foreign aid to Ukraine right now, but we should be able to privately donate to raise money for their weapons.
Ah, here come the neocons to say why a draft isn't a bad thing and we shouldn't have objections to it.