Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Politics Thread Mk. 2
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That's a massive purchase order there Poland. 18 Himars, 18 South Korean longer ranged equivalent Chunmoo and 45 ATACMS. To a total of 500 Himars, 300 Chunmoo, 600 K9A1 SPG. 50 Black Eagles, 50 F-35. A big build up of Western MBTs 250 M1A2, 116 M1A1, 1000 K2. 1000 native Borsuk IFV/APC. The beautiful AH-64 Apaches. . . Hehe hehe. What a beautiful list of toys. Meanwhile the thousands of Soviet era equipment are being refurbished as fast as possible and being shipped to Ukraine.
It will be a battle of Quality over Quantity in a Russo-Polish war.
It will be a battle of Quality over Quantity in a Russo-Polish war.
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Wargamer08
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Didn't the Polish opposition win the election? More then likely they cancel those orders as they A can't afford it and B can't man the equipment even if they could afford it.
Buba
A total creep
I expect most of these orders to be pared down or cancelled.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
As always, every Polish-Russian war, and there were 19 in total, was quality vs. quantity. Given that we won most of them, it's easy to get an answer as to how it will end this time.
Possibly, the opposition is already ranting about the "dire" state of the Polish state's finances, which is an outright lie designed to cover their own ineptitude and prepare the public for the sudden butchering of most of the social, investment and military programs that have been launched. Why? Well, given that many of them have too much in common with the criminal elements of Poland and Europe, while during their previous governments they were constantly told that there was and would be no money even though the politicians themselves were very quick to get stuffed, one can guess where the money would eventually be found.
So, the programs will be released only out of a desire for personal gain, than for real reasons. If Poland can't afford a large army or decent infrastructure, it can't afford to ruin half the country in a war all the more.
Well, unless the right foreign forces and hooks in the deal, make it impossible for the opposition to curtail and break it. But given what they did last time, they've already messed things up for their own benefit.
Nevertheless, in order to do that, they need to form a coalition to be able to ask Duda to form a government with their participation. And that is no longer so certain.
300,000 casualties from August 8 to October 2 this year just in the Avdiivka front.
Japanese Defense Ministry facial recognition, speech pattern and vocal analysis, of footage has identified that Putin has at least two body doubles. The one in the Red Square parade in May was the real one. Every appearance since then away from the Kremlin have been the body doubles. Especially the Putin in Mariupol August 2022 and the Putin driving on the Kerch Bridge.
Japanese Defense Ministry facial recognition, speech pattern and vocal analysis, of footage has identified that Putin has at least two body doubles. The one in the Red Square parade in May was the real one. Every appearance since then away from the Kremlin have been the body doubles. Especially the Putin in Mariupol August 2022 and the Putin driving on the Kerch Bridge.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Seriously, if you're going to post stuff like this, please link your sourcing for it.
Grimalkin
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Don't you know that Japan has the best intelligence agency in the world? They're so fucking good that nobody's ever even heard of them.
Edit: Before anyone actually takes this statement seriously, this is a joke, the japanese intelligence community is not a thing that exists, and I'm not just saying that under duress.
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King Arts
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Hey they are the descendants of the Ninja. They should be running circles against everyone else.
Grimalkin
Well-known member
Look, it's basically a meme at this point that if you're looking for the best in the world whether it be woodworking, cooking or making booze, you're probably looking for some japanese guy who spent his whole life mastering it. Now with a pattern like that where would you go to find the best spies in the world?
The Mossad, MI6, the CIA, or the Chinese? You hear about them all the time on the forums and in the news, but you never hear a fucking peep about the japanese intelligence service.
That in itself should be a clear indicator of who among those groups is the best among all of them, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if the whole japanese government was a just a front for the japanese intelligence community at this point.
Russia-Ukraine war: Moscow says Kyiv risking nuclear disaster after Ukrainian drones shot down near Zaporizhzhia – as it happened
Nine drones shot down near nuclear power station that is now held by Russia after coming under attack from invading force
www.theguardian.com
German foreign minister wants to see Ukraine as part of the EU.
Giorgia Meloni says European leaders are ‘tired of Ukraine war’ in prank call
Italian PM regrets being deceived by Russian pranksters posing as African diplomats, with her remarks playing into the hands of the Kremlin
www.telegraph.co.uk
Giorgia Meloni says European leaders are 'tired of Ukraine war' in prank call
Italian PM regrets being deceived by Russian pranksters posing as African diplomats, with her remarks playing into the hands of the Kremlin
By James Kilner and Giovanni Legorano 1 November 2023 • 7:03pm
During the call, Giorgia Meloni said Europe's leaders wanted a 'way out' of the war in Ukraine
European leaders are tired of the war in Ukraine and want to broker a deal with the Kremlin to end it, Giorgia Meloni told pranksters posing as African diplomats.
The Italian prime minister made the remarks during a phone call she believed she was having with a senior African Union official when she was in fact speaking with two prolific Russian pranksters and suspected Kremlin agents.
During the conversation with "Vovan and Lexus", she said European leaders wanted a "way out" of the 20-month war in Ukraine.
"I see that many are tired. To tell the truth, perhaps we are close to the moment when everyone will understand that we need a way out," she said.
Ms Meloni's remarks play into the hands of the Kremlin, which has counted on Kyiv's Western allies growing fatigued by the war and thus reducing their support.
This week, Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, warned that the Kremlin was banking on the Gaza-Israel war diverting Western support away from Ukraine.
Volodymyr Zelensky has also begged the West not to give up on its support for Ukraine despite a disappointing counteroffensive, backed by Nato forces.
Speaking about the counteroffensive during the call, Ms Meloni said: "It didn't change the destiny of the conflict.
"So everybody understands that it really could last many years if we don't try to find some solutions."
Ms Meloni's office confirmed that the recording was genuine and had taken place on Sep 18, ahead of meetings on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York.
"The prime minister regrets having been deceived," it said.
The pranksters' ability to get on the phone with Ms Meloni will raise security concerns.
yeah wars suck of course people are tired of it, because it sucks.
But europes stuck supporting Ukraine because everyone knows that for geopolitical reasons that it will not end with Ukraine and nato nations will be attacked next. Thats why Im not nessarly against giving Ukraine weapons to bleed Russia I just want concessions that actually benifit us americans in exchange for doing that rather then just giving the left shit for free again....
But europes stuck supporting Ukraine because everyone knows that for geopolitical reasons that it will not end with Ukraine and nato nations will be attacked next. Thats why Im not nessarly against giving Ukraine weapons to bleed Russia I just want concessions that actually benifit us americans in exchange for doing that rather then just giving the left shit for free again....
Then call your congresscritters and ask them to freeze the funds of anyone who does business with Russia/sanctioned individuals, and have said frozen funds diverted to help US domestic issues.
Make Russia and friends pay to help fix things here, and remove resources from the hands of Russian oligarchs and people/companies who still want to try to play in the Russia market.
Also, looks like Russia is going to leave the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, based on a new law Putin signed.
So get ready to see Russian above ground nuclear tests again in the future.
They said that they will not resume testing unless the US starts first. So it may unofficially stay on.
Yeah, and only fools trust Russia/Putin to have restraint, rather than seek an excuse to escalate.
Little hard to hid a nuke going off.
Russia will just wait till there's an earthquake and say those tremors were an illegal nuke test by the US so they can proceed with their own testing.