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Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Episode III in a nutshell:

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Bassoe

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Somebody on QQ pointed out this gem. It's a crackfic of course, but I particularly want to draw your attention to chapter 8, I sexually identify as an E-Web Heavy Repeater.

While we're on the topic of identification, someone 'fixed' Fallen Order and Disney Wars' lack of non-mary-sue female characters.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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While we're on the topic of identification, someone 'fixed' Fallen Order and Disney Wars' lack of non-mary-sue female characters.


That gameplay footage actually makes me intrigued in seeing a deaf, mute, sex positive alien who identifies and recollects being a red headed boy in flashbacks. Her being positively sexy is just a bonus.

You can get a lot of more nuanced and original storytelling by just having her emote and use... ah... body language and the like to communicate with people. It'd be a really neat way of telling a story and a twist on the silent protagonist archetype. And it'd be an effective use of the male gaze as well, because the player would already be enraptured in looking after their character, allowing them to get a better read on her subtle non-verbal communication and cues.

*rubs eyes*

Sorry I blacked out there for a moment.
 
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Skallagrim

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Here is the Star Wars that we really need.



I suppose the musical choice is fitting, because A) binary star, so reference to Tatooine, and B) Legend of the Galactic Heroes is basically the anti-Star Wars.

(By the latter I mean: it's a conceptual inversion. SW is a fundamentally Western story, full of Western assumptions about culture and politics, coated in something of an East Asian veneer/aesthetic. LotGH is a fundamentally Japanese story, full of Japanese assumptions about culture and politics, coated in something of a Western veneer/aesthetic.)
 

Carrot of Truth

War is Peace
I suppose the musical choice is fitting, because A) binary star, so reference to Tatooine, and B) Legend of the Galactic Heroes is basically the anti-Star Wars.

(By the latter I mean: it's a conceptual inversion. SW is a fundamentally Western story, full of Western assumptions about culture and politics, coated in something of an East Asian veneer/aesthetic. LotGH is a fundamentally Japanese story, full of Japanese assumptions about culture and politics, coated in something of a Western veneer/aesthetic.)


LotGH is superior to Star Wars when it comes to how the politics are handled.
 

Skallagrim

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LotGH is superior to Star Wars when it comes to how the politics are handled.
Well, sure. Although, again, it's very Japanese in its assumptions, so what it expresses isn't always as relevant to a Western mode of thinking. But at the end of the LotGH has over a hundred episodes in the main series alone, and it's also fundamentally about politics. SW has way less than that kind of 'breathing room' in its main series of films, and it's fundamentally a space adventure. So even in its expanded universe and (more recently) television series, far less attention is dedicated to politics-- by design.

(There are a few ways you could re-write SW as more of a 'political' epic about galactic civil war, without changing anything about the plot... but it'd still be very different kind of beast. An interesting thought to consider!)
 

Carrot of Truth

War is Peace
Well, sure. Although, again, it's very Japanese in its assumptions, so what it expresses isn't always as relevant to a Western mode of thinking. But at the end of the LotGH has over a hundred episodes in the main series alone, and it's also fundamentally about politics. SW has way less than that kind of 'breathing room' in its main series of films, and it's fundamentally a space adventure. So even in its expanded universe and (more recently) television series, far less attention is dedicated to politics-- by design.

(There are a few ways you could re-write SW as more of a 'political' epic about galactic civil war, without changing anything about the plot... but it'd still be very different kind of beast. An interesting thought to consider!)


From what I understand focusing on the politics is basically what Andor did but I don't know because I don't have a Disney Plus account and little desire to actually watch in of the Disney trash.
 

Skallagrim

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From what I understand focusing on the politics is basically what Andor did but I don't know because I don't have a Disney Plus account and little desire to actually watch in of the Disney trash.
It does that, yes-- at least in part. And I'd argue that it's at its best when it does (and at its worst when it's actually about, you know... Andor). But it's also the least Star Wars-y of the prominent Star Wars productions. It does a different thing, and does it well, but it stops being the space adventure that SW is at its core... and so it feels like a whole different kind of thing to many fans.

I think it's fine, as a series. I also think it might actually have been better if they'd produced it as an original series. without tying it to Star Wars.
 

Bacle

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Personally, I think there is a great potential for another type of Star Wars story.

The RimSlo's, basically a Republic version of a MASH unit, had a few books done about them.

Imagine a Star Wars MASH series done during the Clone Wars and then Rise of the Empire, but it is actual mobile because it's on a medical frigate.

Maybe something like a Pelta-class and it's crew for characters, and this gives potential for defecting to joining the Rebellion when the ship is likely decommissioned.
 

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