Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

[ShadowArxxy]

(There are a few ways you could re-write SW as more of a 'political' epic about galactic civil war, without changing anything about the plot... but it'd still be very different kind of beast. An interesting thought to consider!)

As I think I've mentioned before, I would *love* it if they made a Leia-centric sub-series of books that were focused on the development and politics of the New Republic, especially if they also picked up the 'droid rights' subplots that were explicitly created in the early EU stuff but completely abandoned later on.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Personally, I think there is a great potential for another type of Star Wars story.

The biggest downside of the old EU was the near-total unwillingness to write stories that didn't just follow the same old Rebel heroes doing essentially the same thing. So yeah, I'm all for having an overlapping array of sub-series that have different focuses and even different genres.

(This I'll give Disney credit for; Rogue One is the *one* Star Wars movie that really does hit a different genre entirely, and the Andor TV series actually does a good job of being a prequel to Rogue One.)

 

[Carrot of Truth]

The biggest downside of the old EU was the near-total unwillingness to write stories that didn't just follow the same old Rebel heroes doing essentially the same thing. So yeah, I'm all for having an overlapping array of sub-series that have different focuses and even different genres.

(This I'll give Disney credit for; Rogue One is the *one* Star Wars movie that really does hit a different genre entirely, and the Andor TV series actually does a good job of being a prequel to Rogue One.)

The Vong invasion was the only thing I actually found interesting in the old EU other than that it was the same old Jedi Sith pissing match.

 

[Husky_Khan]

The biggest downside of the old EU was the near-total unwillingness to write stories that didn't just follow the same old Rebel heroes doing essentially the same thing. So yeah, I'm all for having an overlapping array of sub-series that have different focuses and even different genres.

That's a good point. Let me try and think of the top of my head if there are ANY stories on the pre-Disney EU that ever wasn't the same old Rebel Heroes doing Essentially the Same Thing.

Star Wars: Empire Comics
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic II
TIE Fighter
Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Jedi Outcast
Truce at Bakura
Thrawn Trilogy
X-Wing Series
Clone Wars Cartoon
Tartavoskys Clone Wars
Crimson Empire
Crimson Empire II
Tales of the Bounty Hunters
Rebel Assault
Star Wars Tales Comics
The New Jedi Order
Star Wars Tales of the Jedi Comics
Star Wars Legacy?

Never really read any of the novels btw. Damn I can't think of anything else and my break is over. Looks like your right.

 

[DarthOne]

Personally, I think there is a great potential for another type of Star Wars story.

The RimSlo's, basically a Republic version of a MASH unit, had a few books done about them.

Imagine a Star Wars MASH series done during the Clone Wars and then Rise of the Empire, but it is actual mobile because it's on a medical frigate.

Maybe something like a Pelta-class and it's crew for characters, and this gives potential for defecting to joining the Rebellion when the ship is likely decommissioned.

Didn’t the MedStar books do just that?

 

[Bacle]

That's a good point. Let me try and think of the top of my head if there are ANY stories on the pre-Disney EU that ever wasn't the same old Rebel Heroes doing Essentially the Same Thing.

Star Wars: Empire Comics
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic II
TIE Fighter
Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Jedi Outcast
Truce at Bakura
Thrawn Trilogy
X-Wing Series
Clone Wars Cartoon
Tartavoskys Clone Wars
Crimson Empire
Crimson Empire II
Tales of the Bounty Hunters
Rebel Assault
Star Wars Tales Comics
The New Jedi Order
Star Wars Tales of the Jedi Comics
Star Wars Legacy?

Never really read any of the novels btw. Damn I can't think of anything else and my break is over. Looks like your right.

Blackfleet Crisis; it'd be fun to see how Disney would try to deal with how bloody, brutal, xenophobic, and alien (brain in chest chavity, not head) the Yevetha are, while still be victims of the Empire.

Didn’t the MedStar books do just that?

Yes, and I was thinking those are prime adaptation material for a serial show that expands out from those books.

 

[Earl]

It does that, yes-- at least in part. And I'd argue that it's at its best when it does (and at its worst when it's actually about, you know... Andor). But it's also the least Star Wars-y of the prominent Star Wars productions. It does a different thing, and does it well, but it stops being the space adventure that SW is at its core... and so it feels like a whole different kind of thing to many fans.

I think it's fine, as a series. I also think it might actually have been better if they'd produced it as an original series. without tying it to Star Wars.

I mean, I think the Andor parts actually are quite interesting. Granted the Aldhani parts can be abit slow (not bad but slow) but when you hit the pay off, it’s utterly fantastic. The Spin Gulag is also interesting all the way Through in my view and thankfully they don’t do too much filler before getting straight to the pay off with the Funeral and the riot. Those are all very solid parts.

 

[Bacle]

So seeing things saying Mary Elizabeth Winstead (Ewan McGregor wife) will play Hera Syndulla in the Ahsoka series.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

So seeing things saying Mary Elizabeth Winstead (Ewan McGregor wife) will play Hera Syndulla in the Ahsoka series.

It definitely makes sense to have Hera in the Ahsoka series considering how much history together they have in the Rebels CGI series. One of the positive things about Disney canon is they've always been big about having that kind of consistency, where the old EU felt a little more siloed off as "this is this author's character so you're not going to see them as much more than a cameo in anyone else's work".

 

[Bacle]

It definitely makes sense to have Hera in the Ahsoka series considering how much history together they have in the Rebels CGI series. One of the positive things about Disney canon is they've always been big about having that kind of consistency, where the old EU felt a little more siloed off as "this is this author's character so you're not going to see them as much more than a cameo in anyone else's work".

I just want a live-action Ghost, and to see how they pull Zeb off.

Supposedly Callus is in it too, but haven't seen any acting announcements for him yet.

 

[Zyobot]

Well, since it’s that time of year again:




Otherwise, Merry Christmas — well, assuming you recovery from watching by tomorrow, anyway.

 

[Batrix2070]

Well, I recently found something that is one of a kind. A true marvel, and certainly much better than Disney's ST.
In front of you, the work of the Polish Film Institute that is "Gwiezdne Wojny: Stara Apatia" (Star Wars: Old Apathy).

Grand Hetman Tarwin Declares Martial Law on the Territory of the Galactic Union

Galactic Union Soldiers Watching the Streets

Union soldiers during the Battle for Planet Goronco with the Solidarity Alliance

This Robot fits in equally well with Star Wars

Master Woda talking about the Time of Sanation

Jader leading his troops

I think it's Łukasz(Luke)

And seriously, these are pictures taken by AI to pretend to be frames of the film, answering the question of what Star Wars shot by Poles would look like. All in the style of 1980s Communist Poland. Who would want to see such a version of ST?

 

[Skallagrim]

I like it! No, really-- I'd watch that for sure!

 

[PsihoKekec]

If this was made as parody it would be awesome.

 

[Bassoe]

And seriously, these are pictures taken by AI to pretend to be frames of the film

Here, have some more.




At this point I think we can safely say Artificial Intelligence has surpassed the artistic capacities of megacorp nepotism babies. And is still rapidly improving. Imagine in a few decades if it isn't banned, when we can actually watch these films. Then a few decades after that when it exceeds the limits of human creativity altogether. Much as Brian Herbert's Dune prequels got mocked as a cashgrab, that was an interesting idea.

Strangest of all, Erasmus seemed aware of his own failing. "I know that humans are in some ways more sensitive than machines—for now. However, machines have more potential to become superior in every area. This is why I wish to understand all aspects of sentient biological life."

Erasmus assumed she was interested in his observations. "If properly developed, a thinking machine could be more perfect intellectually, creatively, and spiritually than a human could ever hope to be, with unparalleled mental freedom and range. I am inspired by the marvels we could accomplish, if only Omnius did not exert such pressure on other machines to conform."

Serena listened, hoping he would let more information slip. Did she sense a potential conflict between Erasmus and the computer evermind? The robot continued, "Capacity for information is the key. Machines will absorb not only more raw data, but more feelings, as soon as we understand them. When that happens we will be able to love and hate far more passionately than humans. Our music will be greater, our paintings more magnificent. Once we achieve complete self-awareness, thinking machines will create the greatest renaissance in history."

Praise the Omnissiah, defeater of Disney!

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I'm not One to say "get gud" but I honestly think if the biggest majority of artist don't want to be replaced by AI they need to do exactly that.

 

[gral]

Who would want to see such a version of ST?

Count me in.

 

[Zachowon]

Here, have some more.




At this point I think we can safely say Artificial Intelligence has surpassed the artistic capacities of megacorp nepotism babies. And is still rapidly improving. Imagine in a few decades if it isn't banned, when we can actually watch these films. Then a few decades after that when it exceeds the limits of human creativity altogether. Much as Brian Herbert's Dune prequels got mocked as a cashgrab, that was an interesting idea.

Praise the Omnissiah, defeater of Disney!

What AI is this and how can I use it

 

[Zyobot]

Happy 2023, everyone.

 

[Bacle]

What AI is this and how can I use it

You understand what this means, right.

There are going to fandom wars inside and between AI's in the future over works of fiction and such, just like with us meatbags.