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Ryan Fletcher (SkyForge) released a short 3D animation showing the opening scene of the ESB audio drama. This, obviously, isn't in the film, but is canonical (at least in the original continuity).



These sorts of efforts always make me happy. And ultimately, as the ability to make these kinds of videos become more and more refined and more and more accessible... I really hope to one day see more of the old EU brought to the screen in this way.
 
Ryan Fletcher (SkyForge) released a short 3D animation showing the opening scene of the ESB audio drama. This, obviously, isn't in the film, but is canonical (at least in the original continuity).



These sorts of efforts always make me happy. And ultimately, as the ability to make these kinds of videos become more and more refined and more and more accessible... I really hope to one day see more of the old EU brought to the screen in this way.

It always amazes me how some nerds with a bit of passion can crank out better content than multi-billion dollar studios. Just goes to show how vacuous and incompetent companies like Disney really are.
 
It always amazes me how some nerds with a bit of passion can crank out better content than multi-billion dollar studios. Just goes to show how vacuous and incompetent companies like Disney really are.

The incompetence is staggering. It's not that they lack the expertise to make films and series that look good. (Although they do randomly skimp on the budget, it seems.) It's that they mostly lack the ability to tell compelling stories. Huge budgets are meaningless if you're managing a "franchise", and releasing "content".
 
It always amazes me how some nerds with a bit of passion can crank out better content than multi-billion dollar studios. Just goes to show how vacuous and incompetent companies like Disney really are.
This is actually completely normal. Creativity is the domain of the starving artist and the small-time operator, it is not compatible with focus groups and endless team meetings. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that.

Big companies can put more wow and pizazz on the screen with bigger budgets but rarely have the same spark of creativity and always trend towards playing it safe, endless remakes and reboots rather than original visions.

Just compare Marvel and DC comic offers with Rippaverse.
 
Ryan Fletcher (SkyForge) released a short 3D animation showing the opening scene of the ESB audio drama. This, obviously, isn't in the film, but is canonical (at least in the original continuity).



These sorts of efforts always make me happy. And ultimately, as the ability to make these kinds of videos become more and more refined and more and more accessible... I really hope to one day see more of the old EU brought to the screen in this way.


"STOP EXPLODING YOU COWARDS!"

I was wondering where Zapp Brannigan's iconic quote came from.

Oh wait that was just my headcanon that Renegade Flight was led by an ex-Imperial Commander who in his last moments defaulted back to his Imperial Starfighter Corps vernacular.
 
Does anyone else feel like the Inquisitors are wasted? I reckon there was a really cool idea at the heart of it but a lack of imagination and Dave Filoni's refusal to put his OCs in any real danger has completely gutted it.

The Inquisitorious should have been essentially been Warhammer's Holy Inquisition but with lightsabres and force powers. Not baby seals to be humiliated by the heroes.
 
Does anyone else feel like the Inquisitors are wasted? I reckon there was a really cool idea at the heart of it but a lack of imagination and Dave Filoni's refusal to put his OCs in any real danger has completely gutted it.

The Inquisitorious should have been essentially been Warhammer's Holy Inquisition but with lightsabres and force powers. Not baby seals to be humiliated by the heroes.
Yeah, thanks but no thanks, that would be kinda rule-breaking because:
1) Rule of Two.
2) The ISB and the Empire's other security and Intel agencies already do most of what the inquisition in 40k does.
3) If Vader or the emperor learned the other is building a huge cadre of force adept footsoldiers it would mean more intrigue and reciprocation by the other party.

A (proper) Star Wars inquisition would be something like the equivalent of the Grey Knights/Custodes/Officio Assassinorum temples.

Training that many force sensitives would pose a danger for Palpatine.

Yeah, I know some of the Lucas EU had some so called "Inquisitors" and "Adepts" but I was never that interested in that portion of the EU TBH.

And in any case you would not have the numbers to build a full blown inquisition equivalent given that the jedi were basically breeding force ability out of the populace and that all of them, their young padawans included, got slaughtered by someone.
 
the jedi were basically breeding force ability out of the populace and that all of them, their young padawans included, got slaughtered by someone.
We don't know what percentage of families, upon having a force-sensitive child and getting contacted by the jedi, actually gave said child up. Potentially it might've been low.
 
We don't know what percentage of families, upon having a force-sensitive child and getting contacted by the jedi, actually gave said child up. Potentially it might've been low.
Even if the force is present in just 0.1% of the population, and of those just 0.1% of families decide to give their children away that is still potentially hundreds of millions of candidates.
there are hundreds of thousands of inhabited star systems, with some deffinitely having a population that is multiples of Earth.
 
Does anyone else feel like the Inquisitors are wasted? I reckon there was a really cool idea at the heart of it but a lack of imagination and Dave Filoni's refusal to put his OCs in any real danger has completely gutted it.

The Inquisitorious should have been essentially been Warhammer's Holy Inquisition but with lightsabres and force powers. Not baby seals to be humiliated by the heroes.

Absolutely agreed. They even gave that one-off Inquisitor in their vignette TotJ series a pretty cool design... and then he dies like a chump, never even getting named. The Ahsoka trailer reveals another (presumed) Inquisitor, also with a pretty cool design. I fear they'll pull the same stunt again.

Otherwise, it'll just be another Reva (as seen in the Obi-Wan series), which was just... a garbage plot.

I get that Rebels had the draw-back of being a kids' series (more so than TCW), so I'll dock no points for how nerfed and useless the Inquisitors were, there.

Fallen Order, however, did a bit of a better job, and the reason Reva is such a useless character is that's she's very obviously a knock-off Trilla. An inferior copy of the same idea.

They could have done a lot with the Inquisitors, but they wasted the whole idea nine out of ten times.


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1) Rule of Two.

Palpatine didn't give a single flying fuck about the Rule of Two.


2) The ISB and the Empire's other security and Intel agencies already do most of what the inquisition in 40k does.

No, those existed for more 'mundane' political dissidence. The Inquisitors were for the Force-related shit, largely because Vader (however powerful) is just one dude and can't be everywhere. There are still Jedi in hiding, so having Inquisitors in the early period of Palpatine's rule is perfectly sensible, and indeed much-needed.

A case can be made for going "night of the long knives" on most (or perhaps even all) of them once you're confident that virtually all Jedi have been hunted down, though.


3) If Vader or the emperor learned the other is building a huge cadre of force adept footsoldiers it would mean more intrigue and reciprocation by the other party.

So... Sith business as usual?


Training that many force sensitives would pose a danger for Palpatine.

Not doing so would also pose a danger -- quite possibly far more acute -- of allowing too many Jedi to slip into hiding. Possibly to places where they might gather their forces to begin an insurgency.

Palpatine, by the way, consistently took enormous risks. He's very typically psychopathic in that regard, as in all other regards. So this argument by no means stops him from doing a thing.


you would not have the numbers to build a full blown inquisition equivalent given that the jedi were basically breeding force ability out of the populace

That's just plain wrong. Not one single source indicates that the Jedi were "breeding out" Force-sensitivity. On the contrary: it's made explicit (in both continuities!) that the Jedi only ever discovered a very small faction of the Force-sensitives. In most untrained ones, the Force-sensitivity would fade away due to lack of practice.

Even if you assume that Force-sensitivity is wholly hereditary, then, it's still undisputed that the Jedi practice of taking on some of the Force-sensitives into their Order had no appreciable effect on the genetic substrate of "Force genes" among the wider populace.

Moreover, Force-sensitivity explicitly isn't (exclusively) hereditary. It can and does appear in individuals at random, regardless of their genetics.

In short: neither the activities of the Jedi nor their extermination had any meaningful effect on the number of potential Force-users being born in the galaxy at any given time.
 
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