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Come on. Say what you want to say.
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KilroywasNOTHere
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I got Rey vibes from him. Granted though he is more fleshed out than rey is, but you treating him like a self insert just make those vibes stronger.
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I agree that it's entirely the point -- he's a cheap knockoff of Luke and Han, who fell to the Dark Side while claiming that doing so was heroic and for the Greater Good. His hypocrisy is exactly what make him an interesting protagonist.
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Has anyone actually read the EU? I have.
Claiming Jacen is a "hybrid of Luke and Han" just belies a lack of knowledge that makes discussion outright wasteful.
Claiming Jacen is a "hybrid of Luke and Han" just belies a lack of knowledge that makes discussion outright wasteful.
KilroywasNOTHere
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or maybe we just son't like him and view him as such.
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Your dislike isn't based on his character? But on ignorance?
At least, it seems to be so.
Kind of hard to have a productive conversation about a character when one side has no idea what their talking about.
Jacen isn't a clone of Han(he's actually quite different-Han's closer to Jaina), and he emulates Luke yes, but is very different in some important ways.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Making a statement sound like a question isn't productive.
I didn't say a clone I said a hybrid he's got han's sarcasm but he's mostly a skywalker albiet more competent and not as constricted with plot armor. And maybe the fanfiction has spoiled me, but saying let's take character X and give him a personality swich just isin't interesting to me on it's own anymore. (In Cades's case it was What if we took Vader and more politically inclined.) In the end I just view Jacen/cadus as a sequel.
People disagreeing with your interpretation of the character does not make people "ignorant" or that they haven't read the source material. It just means they have a different opinion.
In my opinion, the entire fall of Jacen Solo was in many ways a repeat of the entire Dash Rendar debacle -- Luke is just *too damn forgiving* of Dark Siders, due to overgeneralizing from Vader's redemption.
It's interesting that he almost *didn't* make the same mistake in the Disney reboot, but then unfortunately still did. And then pulled the same thing the Jedi have pulled in *every* part of *every* iteration of Star Wars: created a giant mess, then retired to contemplate their navels while everyone else suffers for it and has to clean it up.
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You do realize he didn't intervene for Alema Rar? He wrote her off. And didn't make any active effort for her or Jacen.
jacen is compeltly overrated.
My buddy who taught me a lot of EU back in the day, damn accurate at what he was talking about when it came to SW mind you, and from the exerts that he was reading to me, made Jacen seem unlikeable.
but guess what, I have different opinions!
Like I am not gonna call people that don't like Karen Traviss mandos Ignorant of the true mandos.
Because it is my opnions
My buddy who taught me a lot of EU back in the day, damn accurate at what he was talking about when it came to SW mind you, and from the exerts that he was reading to me, made Jacen seem unlikeable.
but guess what, I have different opinions!
Like I am not gonna call people that don't like Karen Traviss mandos Ignorant of the true mandos.
Because it is my opnions
Mixed opinions? It's like the Dark Souls of Star Wars games!
In my opinion, the best description of it is Star Wars meets Tomb Raider. The way you climb and move through the levels with a lot of puzzle solving is very Tomb Raider.
Tomb raider and dark souls has a sci fi baby
Knowledgeispower
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I still don't get how the top secret project that's supposed to turn the tide of the war A. Doesn't have mutiple vessels being built in several different locations and B. is only being guarded by what seems like a handful of capital ships and fighters instead of a small armada. Also why the heck are there are only 5 ships per Squadron(gameplay mechanics I know but still) when it should 12?
There are definitely more then 5. If you look at when you are engaging enemy formations you see there are more then just toue team out there.
They are also trying to keep it on the down low so much that everyone that is apart of said project has been hand picked to keep quiet.
it is also a prototype.
At the end of the NR campaign they show they are gong to build more now that they now it works.
It also took multiple star destroyers to build the Star hawk
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Oh I know the ship was a prototype. What I don't get is why it wasn't assembled over a world like Sullust where the New Republic had major shipyards and a large fleet already there and thus could build mutiple hulls in a safe location. Also it's not like Star Destroyers that were too damaged to be economically repaired weren't uncommon in this time period what with how the Empire went from having 25,000 to barely 1,000 of them in just under a couple years
I mean....If you play the game you notice the NR did not have their fleets over planets as they are searching for the Empire. They ,managed to deep strike the Capital and Mon Cala.
They had to put it in a place where the IMPs would never know about and potential sabatours were not able to sneak onboard.
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Speaking of LOTF, whenever I get the time for it, I’ll have to do a LOTF Let’s Read in the SB vein.
As for Jacen Solo-he was a remarkable protagonist. Is he unlikable to some? Yes, but those that like Jacen are of a different nature.
Jacen isn’t a stereotypical protagonist. He’s not Anakin with his swashbuckling bravado, he’s contemplative, empathetic, and deeply concerned with his role in the universe and the force. While also being more than willing to fight defensively.
Jacen Solo is what a Jedi should be.
As for Jacen Solo-he was a remarkable protagonist. Is he unlikable to some? Yes, but those that like Jacen are of a different nature.
Jacen isn’t a stereotypical protagonist. He’s not Anakin with his swashbuckling bravado, he’s contemplative, empathetic, and deeply concerned with his role in the universe and the force. While also being more than willing to fight defensively.
Jacen Solo is what a Jedi should be.
KilroywasNOTHere
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ahaahahahahahahaah If Jacen is anything he's the reason why force users and the force in general have long overwhelmed there welcome.