United States US presidential election 2024

[Sobek]

Trump had 4 years and did nothing against the deep state.

This is how I know you are retarded.

What, exactly, did you expect to happen? What do you think Trump should have done exactly? Did you miss the part where they started sabotaging Trump the moment he won the EC? Did you miss the part where every single action he took was spun by a trillion dollar political and media machine to destroy the man and his entire cabinet? Did you miss the part where the FBI COLLUDED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE CANDIDATE TRUMP BEAT TO SLANDER AND TRY AND OUST HIM?

Do you think Trump just had a button he could click to delete the Deep State and never clicked it? What exactly are you expecting fucking Vivek to do them? Do you have no recolection of how they literally rigged a election to get Trump out and then set up a bunch of boomers to kill sitting congressmen on Jan 6th that failed because they didn't realize the boomers who went to D.C. weren't blood thristy like their propaganda said theybwere?

How fucking naive are you? How delusional are you? What exactly are you expecting here, some perfect little solution where it just gets signed into law that the CIA and DOJ will be cleaned out on a single E.O. And that is it?

No wonder you are falling for Pahjeet doing the needful for Sirs and is totally gonna fix it. Bet you are the sort of sucker who still thinks "Thin Blue Line" is a thing and the FBI and CIA are just "a few bad apples" and totally good guys.

You are the sort of faggot that would be put against the wall to be shot as a reactionary and whose last words would be "Wow imagine if the roles were reversed! So much for the tolerant left!"

 

[Abhorsen]

What, exactly, did you expect to happen? What do you think Trump should have done exactly? Did you miss the part where they started sabotaging Trump the moment he won the EC? Did you miss the part where every single action he took was spun by a trillion dollar political and media machine to destroy the man and his entire cabinet? Did you miss the part where the FBI COLLUDED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE CANDIDATE TRUMP BEAT TO SLANDER AND TRY AND OUST HIM?

Fire people. He could do that unilaterally, and didn't.

Or at least, he could, you know, not have backed up Fauci in shutting down the country?

Do you think Trump just had a button he could click to delete the Deep State and never clicked it?

Literally yes. It's called firing people. Starting with Fauci. But instead, he was on Fauci's side.

What exactly are you expecting fucking Vivek to do them?

Fire people. Starting with Fauci.

You are the sort of faggot that would be put against the wall to be shot as a reactionary and whose last words would be "Wow imagine if the roles were reversed! So much for the tolerant left!"

Lol no. I'd shoot them. Trumps the one currently experiencing this, as he did nothing to stop the deep state for 4 years, then whattaya know? He's getting arrested. Shocker.

Also, Vivek on the second amendment: it requires allowing fully automatic Rifles, as its purpose is to be able to threaten government:


Clearly, a sign he's a tool of the WEF, because they love citizens having full auto.

 

[Sobek]

Fire people. He could do that unilaterally, and didn't.

Or at least, he could, you know, not have backed up Fauci in shutting down the country?

So you really are that retarded.

Hindsight is 20/20. We know now Fauci was lying and full of shit, but back then the ENTIRE establishment was backing him. Trump fires him? Impeachment. And you can bet your fucking ass the RINOs would deffect to back it up.

Even today people still underplay and deny Fauci and Covid scare was manipulated and engineered. How the fuck do you think it would have played out if Trump had done that in the middle of it all?

You are hopelessly naive if you think Trump could have just fired Fauci. You have no actual understanding of the enemy and their ways and tactics. It does explain why you are falling for Vivek though.

 

[Buba]

Trump was a shit President but NOT for the reasons pushed by the MSM and leftards.
Move on.
So, in the 2024 race ...

 

[Abhorsen]

So you really are that retarded.

Hindsight is 20/20. We know now Fauci was lying and full of shit, but back then the ENTIRE establishment was backing him. Trump fires him? Impeachment. And you can bet your fucking ass the RINOs would deffect to back it up.

Trump attacked governors that were opening things up. Stop covering for him. This is pathetic. Trump wasn't threatened by the establishment, he was the establishment in regards to Covid.

Trump bashes Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp again over opening state

President Trump on Thursday ripped Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp for his plan to reopen many of his state’s businesses on Friday, declaring, “I am not happy about Brian Kemp.” “I want the states to open …

nypost.com

 

[Buba]

Trump attacked governors that were opening things up. Stop covering for him. This is pathetic. Trump wasn't threatened by the establishment, he was the establishment in regards to Covid.

Or the BLM riots - he should had sent out the Army/National Guard and shot the fuckers.
So, in the 2024 race ...

 

[Sobek]

Trump attacked governors that were opening things up. Stop covering for him. This is pathetic. Trump wasn't threatened by the establishment, he was the establishment in regards to Covid.

Trump bashes Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp again over opening state

President Trump on Thursday ripped Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp for his plan to reopen many of his state’s businesses on Friday, declaring, “I am not happy about Brian Kemp.” “I want the states to open …

nypost.com

How dare Trump not have magically seen through the gaslighting of a lifetime whike also being the POTUS and also being attacked as a foreign agent!

And do you notice whay he didn't do? He didn't force them to close. He attackes them verbally but he never used Fed power to close it down as was asked of him. Becausw even with all the gaslighting and lies he still held a ground.

You are holding him to a standard that he couldn't have had, and in fact trying to rewrite history to complain he didn't magically see the future and do actions he couldn't have known about. If I go on the backlog of the forum am I gonna see you attacking Trump for trying to control the pandemic according to the best resources and advices we had at the time too? Are you deliberatly forgetting all the media manipulation that happened when it all took place? How Trump gets blames for deaths, but not Biden? How Cuomo killed grannies but Trump is the evil one?

You hold a standard that isn't realistic. You assume peoplw can see the future. You are the type who would walk into a trap perfectly.

 

[Sobek]

Or the BLM riots - he should had sent out the Army/National Guard and shot the fuckers.
So, in the 2024 race ...

He wanted to, his cabinet and Fed denied it.

Trump had a backstabber on every corner. The Petagon literally lied about troop placements to stop him removing ME troops. Miley is on record saying that he would commit treason if Trump sounded like he would go against China. On Jan 6th glowies literally had a killhouse setup so they could have corpses to use as props to destroy Trump and it only failed because Trump and his followers are too honest to have thought about actual insurrection against a rigged election.

No candidate will fix this. But Trump will makw them go so mad they might just crack in rage and expose their real faces ro be dealt with.

 

[Abhorsen]

How dare Trump not have magically seen through the gaslighting of a lifetime whike also being the POTUS and also being attacked as a foreign agent!

How dare Trump lockdown the country? That's the real question you should ask.

No candidate will fix this. But Trump will makw them go so mad they might just crack in rage and expose their real faces ro be dealt with.

He'll make them angry, but not actually hurt them. That's a dumb thing to want.

 

[Zachowon]

Trump attacked governors that were opening things up. Stop covering for him. This is pathetic. Trump wasn't threatened by the establishment, he was the establishment in regards to Covid.

Trump bashes Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp again over opening state

President Trump on Thursday ripped Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp for his plan to reopen many of his state’s businesses on Friday, declaring, “I am not happy about Brian Kemp.” “I want the states to open …

nypost.com

And people wonder why Kemp beat Purdue in the primaries...

Or the BLM riots - he should had sent out the Army/National Guard and shot the fuckers.
So, in the 2024 race ...

He could send in MPs to be riot control.
That's about it.
National Guard has to be approved by the state to go federal of deployed on US soil.
Georgia sent thier guard into Atlanta and the riots died down....

 

[Blasterbot]

Trump attacked governors that were opening things up. Stop covering for him. This is pathetic. Trump wasn't threatened by the establishment, he was the establishment in regards to Covid.

Trump bashes Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp again over opening state

President Trump on Thursday ripped Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp for his plan to reopen many of his state’s businesses on Friday, declaring, “I am not happy about Brian Kemp.” “I want the states to open …

nypost.com

"No he didn't defy me. That's your language. I said [to Kemp], 'You make your own decision.' I told him that,"

wow such bashing. admittedly compared to the language in the GOP's harshly worded letters it really is.

 

[Abhorsen]

"No he didn't defy me. That's your language. I said [to Kemp], 'You make your own decision.' I told him that,"

wow such bashing. admittedly compared to the language in the GOP's harshly worded letters it really is.

You mean this part?

"I am not happy about Brian Kemp."

"I want the states to open more than he does. But I do not like at this early stage. I wasn't happy with it, or with Brian Kemp,"

Or maybe this part, with the full quote you clipped in context?

"No he didn't defy me. That's your language. I said [to Kemp], 'You make your own decision.' I told him that," he continued, adding that Kemp was not following the task force's guidelines for reopening.

"I want people to be safe and with the people in Georgia to be safe. I don't want this thing to flare up because you're deciding to do something that is not in the guidelines," he said, referring to the governor.

"I could've stopped him but I decided to watch it closely, so we will see what happens. I told him very distinctly, I said, 'You do what you think is best.' But if you ask me, I am not happy."

Trump was pro lockdown, and anti-opening the country. He eventually changed his mind, but way too slowly. He's still the best president of my lifetime, but still fell far short of what he could have been.

Like let's make no mistake, the Executive Branch's response to Covid was a clusterfuck, and that begins at Trump. He bent to pressure when he did not have to. Sweden didn't bend, for just one example.

 

[Blasterbot]

You mean this part?


Or maybe this part, with the full quote you clipped in context?


Trump was pro lockdown, and anti-opening the country. He eventually changed his mind, but way too slowly. He's still the best president of my lifetime, but still fell far short of what he could have been.

Like let's make no mistake, the Executive Branch's response to Covid was a clusterfuck, and that begins at Trump. He bent to pressure when he did not have to. Sweden didn't bend, for just one example.

what incredibly mild commentary. Make your own decision? not being happy with him? Do what you think is best?

holy shit. such bashing. such uncouth words. never before has any man been verbally eviscerated like Brian Kemp was by Trump there.

I get it. Trump wasn't perfect on the whole COVID shit. he was still solidly 6/10 and even at his worst beats out every previous president and 90% of the rest of the GOPs offerings.

 

[Abhorsen]

what incredibly mild commentary. Make your own decision? not being happy with him? Do what you think is best?

That the president isn't happy basic freedom is being kept is incredibly bad.

I get it. Trump wasn't perfect on the whole COVID shit. he was still solidly 6/10 and even at his worst beats out every previous president and 90% of the rest of the GOPs offerings.

90% of the previous GOP's offering. DeSantis and Vivek were better on this, at the very least.

And I wouldn't give him a 6/10. His failure to mass fire people is how we ended up here.

 

[Blasterbot]

That the president isn't happy basic freedom is being kept is incredibly bad.

90% of the previous GOP's offering. DeSantis and Vivek were better on this, at the very least.

And I wouldn't give him a 6/10. His failure to mass fire people is how we ended up here.

If he had brought the powers of the federal government down on them I would be unhappy. Him saying he doesn't like something is absolutely fine and exactly what I want. I want more of that and less of people bringing down state power over that sort of shit.

Agreed on Vivek

Desantis has burned a lot of good will on my end. probably wouldn't vote for him. the way he has run his campaign shows he gives too much of an ear to the GOP consultant class.

He got held up with absurd amounts of red tape and obstruction from every avenue. it is only through his terms failures we got clear indication of just how bad it is. without that people would think that merely targeted removals from key positions would be enough to solve the problem.

at this point it is a matter of who you think would do better at gutting the beurocracy. Vivek with his plan. or a very angry Trump with a personal vendetta. and bluntly by the polls? Trump is consistently above 60% unless he keels over dead or gets forcibly removed from the ballots it is going to be him.

 

[Abhorsen]

If he had brought the powers of the federal government down on them I would be unhappy. Him saying he doesn't like something is absolutely fine and exactly what I want. I want more of that and less of people bringing down state power over that sort of shit.

Him saying he's unhappy that people are having basic civil liberties is bad. Him calling for lockdowns is simply awful. I'm thankful that we have enough federalism he wasn't able to force the issue.

Desantis has burned a lot of good will on my end. probably wouldn't vote for him. the way he has run his campaign shows he gives too much of an ear to the GOP consultant class.

Desantis was better on Covid specifically, was what I was saying. I have problems with him too, I wouldn't vote for him in a primary (not that I could, I'm a Libertarian).

He got held up with absurd amounts of red tape and obstruction from every avenue. it is only through his terms failures we got clear indication of just how bad it is. without that people would think that merely targeted removals from key positions would be enough to solve the problem.

I'm assuming the 'He' here is Trump, not Desantis. I disagree that he was held up by red tape. Effectively, most of the red tape is executive order created. Getting rid of it is as simple as signing another executive order, then firing people.

at this point it is a matter of who you think would do better at gutting the beurocracy. Vivek with his plan. or a very angry Trump with a personal vendetta. and bluntly by the polls? Trump is consistently above 60% unless he keels over dead or gets forcibly removed from the ballots it is going to be him.

Trump will get elected, but I don't think he will do much. He'll get in there, and do nothing again. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Trump is incredibly sensitive to outsiders saying they like him, and he nominates swamp creatures everywhere but the judiciary.

 

[DarthOne]

Trump will get elected, but I don't think he will do much. He'll get in there, and do nothing again. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. Trump is incredibly sensitive to outsiders saying they like him, and he nominates swamp creatures everywhere but the judiciary.

And as others have pointed out to you until we are so damn blue in the face we could be voting Democrat, Trump worked on the assumption the the GOP would be willing to work with him and didn’t grasp just how corrupt they were and how deep the Deep State’s roots ran.

 

[Abhorsen]

And as others have pointed out to you until we are so damn blue in the face we could be voting Democrat, Trump worked on the assumption the the GOP would be willing to work with him and didn’t grasp just how corrupt they were and how deep the Deep State’s roots ran.

... And as I've pointed out an equal number of times, if he didn't realize that from the get go, or 2 years in, nor 3 years in, despite complaining about the deep state publicly the entire time, I think he's too gullible to get rid of the deep state given a second go.

He's incredibly bad at vetting who is good and bad, and bases that on if they are sucking up to him at the time. Fauci ran roughshod over American's rights by sucking up to Trump. The next head of the FBI will just say nice things to Trump, and continue doing bullshit stuff. Same with every other agency.

 

[Bacle]

I'm gonna be real, it doesn't really matter much who the GOP candidate is in 2024, they won't be allowed to win anyway.

Trump did the world a service with his term, by causing the Far left to unmask their madness in more ways than is easy or simply to recount. That is something no one can take from him, and no one can undo, and the Justice's he helped Cocaine Mitch and Punished Lindsey push through. The Abraham Accords would have been monumental if Trump had gotten a second term to solidify them. And he met with Kimmy Boy and actually crossed into NK in the DMZ; the summits would have amounted to something if fucking Walrus of Doom Bolton had not mentioned Ghaddafi and thus put Kim on the defensive about his personal safety.

On the other hand, maybe that's who the GOP needs to run now; fucking Bolton, and let the Walrus of Doom take the wheel for a spin or two.

 

[Abhorsen]

I'm gonna be real, it doesn't really matter much who the GOP candidate is in 2024, they won't be allowed to win anyway.

Trump did the world a service with his term, by causing the Far left to unmask their madness in more ways than is easy or simply to recount. That is something no one can take from him, and no one can undo, and the Justice's he helped Cocaine Mitch and Punished Lindsey push through. The Abraham Accords would have been monumental if Trump had gotten a second term to solidify them. And he met with Kimmy Boy and actually crossed into NK in the DMZ; the summits would have amounted to something if fucking Walrus of Doom Bolton had not mentioned Ghaddafi and thus put Kim on the defensive about his personal safety.

On the other hand, maybe that's who the GOP needs to run now; fucking Bolton, and let the Walrus of Doom take the wheel for a spin or two.

This is crap. The only person who has a chance of losing is Trump. Remember that the Uniparty don't view themselves as a part of the Uniparty, so when it comes to the general election, all/nearly all the Unipartiests in GOP will pull for them.