China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Zachowon

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Yes I've already addressed that it's conjecture you can't prove it. I fully understand the theory behind byoyr thoughs to. I just disagree personallyi think the Russians would fold and not do a damn thing. Certainly a gamble but I think a good one the Russians backed down alot. We'll never know though so it's all just smoke in the wind.
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Yes I've already addressed that it's conjecture you can't prove it. I fully understand the theory behind byoyr thoughs to. I just disagree personallyi think the Russians would fold and not do a damn thing. Certainly a gamble but I think a good one the Russians backed down alot. We'll never know though so it's all just smoke in the wind.
By that idiotic talking point, you can't prove your theory either. And thus this entire line of discussion, hell, every line of discussion on this forum ever is a waste of time; as anything with even a hint of conjecture can't be proven 100%. Thus, there is no point to any of this. Might as well just pack it up and shut it all done.

Like that's such an asinine talking point, "You can't prove it 100% because it's alternate history, so neererneerer, I can ignore it"

Talking about the US nuking China in the past itself opens up a divergence, meaning even your theory is conjecture without substance. No one truly would know how the Soviets would react to such an event. Both the "will use nukes" and the "won't use nukes" lines of thoughts are both conjecture. We have no data points to use as evidence of how the Soviets would react. Bringing up the WW2 bombings isn't relevant, because at the time the US was the sole possessor of nuclear weapons. Once the Soviets had them, the paradigm shifted; everyone was worried what would happen if either the US or Soviets used a nuke offensively after that point.
 

Scottty

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EVERYONE with two braincells to rub together called China being responsible for the virus to begin with.
In a fair world, we would create something nasty that kills rice or ducks, and spray that all over the country in retaliation for their ABC warfare. Fucking Hitler knew that firing chemical weapons would only result in them getting shelled with chemical weapons, but China is apparently to retarded/prideful to consider the consequences.

This is far too collectivist. The vast majority of the people in China had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the virus. They didn't choose to live under a sociopathic commie regime, it was imposed on them at gunpoint.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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This is far too collectivist. The vast majority of the people in China had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the virus. They didn't choose to live under a sociopathic commie regime, it was imposed on them at gunpoint.
It doesn't change the cultural attitude. No one forced the employees at the virus lab to forego due dilligence and sell test-subjects as a sideincome. No one forced the chinese tourists to ignore what little travel restrictions were present and try to reach as many places on Earth as they can.
 

Terthna

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This is far too collectivist. The vast majority of the people in China had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the virus. They didn't choose to live under a sociopathic commie regime, it was imposed on them at gunpoint.
True, but it's damn near impossible to retaliate against a state in a way that doesn't affect innocent civilians. At some point, collateral damage is to be expected. Besides; a large portion of the Chinese populace have been brainwashed by the state into becoming sociopathic ultra-nationalists that willingly defend the actions of the regime. They may not have chosen to live under the rule of the CCP, but you'd have a better chance getting someone to willingly leave Scientology, than getting a Chinese person living in China to realize the truth of their situation; assuming the government there didn't stop you cold before you could even try.
 

Sailor.X

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Isn't China in a lot of trouble right now? Sure the Virus came from Wuhan but WAS it deliberately released or was it a major fuckup on someone's part?

Never ascribe to evil what happens through stupidity.
No no with all the stuff the CCP is on record of doing since the 19 freaking 40s. We can ascribe evil to any action they take. They lost the benefit of the doubt decades ago.
 

gral

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These fools should've been among the people least likely to be infected given Mr. Northam's past experience as a Doctor, but here we are.

That assumes he really got infected. My State Governor conveniently got 'infected' when it surfaced that he was using COVID to buy overpriced(3 times the price the Federal Government was buying) ventilators, from some really strange companies, and he disappeared for two weeks. Didn't work - he's being impeached(Legislative Assembly approved the impeachment process, which means he has to leave the post to dedicate himself exclusively to his defence - not that it'll matter, they will impeach him in the final vote).
 

Doomsought

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I assume I got infected several months ago, given how my office shared an atrium with a hotel, I cut through a convention center to get from my garage, and went to the mall food court to eat lunch.

If I was not invefected then it wasn't virulant enough to warrant the lock down.
 

Duke Nukem

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Anyone remember this? Very suspicious

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Same city i live at too.
 

Bacle

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So yeah, the CDC may have been misleading everyone about the virus's contagion factor/transmission ability for months. They left a 'draft' version of the recommendations up, and didn't fix it till days ago.

It's not 'airborne' and is only really in aerosolized droplets.
 

LTR

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According to a study of over three thousand Wuflu patients compared with control groups, being part neanderthal is a major genetic risk factor for respiratory failure during a Wuflu infection.

@FriedCFour have you been taking appropriate precautions?
 

Es Arcanum

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According to a study of over three thousand Wuflu patients compared with control groups, being part neanderthal is a major genetic risk factor for respiratory failure during a Wuflu infection.

@FriedCFour have you been taking appropriate precautions?

Joking aside 😄

The article points out that its a characteristic carried by 16% of Europeans but 50% of South Asians which was surprising.

I would have thought that Europeans would carry the characteristic more given that Neanderthals died out in Europe last.
 

Doomsought

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Joking aside 😄

The article points out that its a characteristic carried by 16% of Europeans but 50% of South Asians which was surprising.

I would have thought that Europeans would carry the characteristic more given that Neanderthals died out in Europe last.
Neanderthals didn't get killed off, they just interbred with the rest of humanity until they lost distinction. What is more important is the proportion of neanderthals to whatever races of humans they interbred with when they hybridized. Since the human population is growing rather than shrinking most of the time, earlier hybridization would give them more genetic influence.
 

Bacle

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Joking aside 😄

The article points out that its a characteristic carried by 16% of Europeans but 50% of South Asians which was surprising.

I would have thought that Europeans would carry the characteristic more given that Neanderthals died out in Europe last.
The higher SE Asian Neanderthal characteristics are likely do to less cross-breeding in more isolated pockets/islands causing the genes to remain a larger portion of the whole.

Unlike Europe SE Asia hasn't had large scale interaction with a lot of the rest of the world till comparitively recently.

It's be interesting to see how the percentage of Neanderthal to Denovisian DNA is spread out in SE Asia. That could allow us to get a better idea of the interaction between the two early hominid groups.
 

Lord Sovereign

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The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neanderthals
A recent genetic association study1 identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for respiratory failure upon SARS-CoV-2 infection. A new study2 comprising 3,199 hospitalized COVID-19 patients and controls finds that this is the major genetic risk factor for severe SARS-CoV-2...
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According to a study of over three thousand Wuflu patients compared with control groups, being part neanderthal is a major genetic risk factor for respiratory failure during a Wuflu infection.

I can't recall where I heard the theory before, but I once heard an interesting idea about Neanderthal Man's genetic legacy being related to Autism (intelligent but deeply less sociable). If that is the case, I might actually be among the first to suffer "death by Autism" according to the study.
 

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