China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Random Username said:


Despite the news being from a Falun Gong associate the situation there makes it likely for supplies to be running out.
Click to expand...

Okay, I have to ask; what exactly is wrong with being associated with Falun Gong? As I understand it, they're just a minor religious movement that was horrifically persecuted in China, and fled the country. I mean sure; it means that whatever they support is likely to be fairly anti-Chinese government, but that just informs on the bias that all sources have, in one form or another.

I mean if anything, being tied to Falun Gong probably means they're more likely to tell the truth about what the Chinese government is doing, which is almost always either horrible and evil, or just straight up incompetent; which everyone else seems to be too busy taking the CCP's money to do.
 
Terthna said:
Okay, I have to ask; what exactly is wrong with being associated with Falun Gong? As I understand it, they're just a minor religious movement that was horrifically persecuted in China, and fled the country. I mean sure; it means that whatever they support is likely to be fairly anti-Chinese government, but that just informs on the bias that all sources have, in one form or another.

I mean if anything, being tied to Falun Gong probably means they're more likely to tell the truth about what the Chinese government is doing, which is almost always either horrible and evil, or just straight up incompetent; which everyone else seems to be too busy taking the CCP's money to do.
Click to expand...
It means they have an agenda. The same goes for other news sources to who they align to or have their funding from.
 
Terthna said:
What would be an appropriate reaction then, in your mind?
Click to expand...
Not saying that the CCP is going to start dropping nukes on their cities?

Sorry for the delay, had work stuff come up and I couldn't come up with a timely response.

Anyway, as for an appropriate reaction... in general, keeping calm and paying attention to the situation as it develops. Also, tempering that new information with the knowledge that most of the deaths and infected are in China. Outside of it, the numbers rapidly drop. If we start seeing the death toll, scarcity of medical supplies, and quarantine difficulties elsewhere, I would be more worried. As it stands though, it looks like people are taking this seriously.

Looking at this, I see that outside of China the number of cases drops dramatically. Percentage-wise, the cases they do have are being treated at a higher rate as well. Distance and restricted travel play a large part here, as do more developed medical facilities. From what I am observing right now, I'm fairly confident about the world's ability to adapt and handle the disease before it does catastrophic damage.

Look, I’m not saying that this isn’t serious. People are dying over this, that should automatically make it serious. However, when looking at the data we have right now, I don't see a wave of death spreading across the globe.

People are getting infected, yes, but they are getting infected at a lower rate than what we see in China, and have a higher rate of getting treated outside of China.

I guess that is my reaction at this moment. Concerned, but overall optimistic.

Sailor.X said:
When the other nations with advanced medical teams get a look at the virus from people who arrived in their countries and suddenly all travel from China slams shut. I don't think it is an overreaction. We don't know the whole picture but I have a feeling it is very bad. The CCP is freaking scared for a reason and they don't normally get this scared.
Click to expand...
Again, I will repeat myself that I think this is serious. I do agree with the travel bans currently in place with China, being a sensible precaution. It is for that reason that I am feeling confident about the rest of the world's ability to respond to the virus. Countries are taking this threat seriously.
 
Train Dodger said:
I want people to ask themselves, I mean, seriously, ask themselves, why there are so many carrion-feeding birds flitting about in Wuhan right now.

They can smell it. They can smell the death. They're hungry.
Click to expand...
I don't think they are there for human bodies, they were drawn in by the pets that were killed.
 
Cherico said:
I actually don't think so, it will exclerate the growing move to put factories in mexico and south east asia but I dont thing thats what will eviserate china. I think all the other pre existing problems will do it, the virus just makes things a little worse.
Click to expand...

Put another way, the virus is probably going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but it's all the other stuff piled up that has set this up to be catastrophic for them.
 
Random Username said:


Containment is failing in Japan through the cracks. There was that qurantine officer for that ship who got infected.
Click to expand...


Japan is pretty hardcore about law, order and the social cohesion. I would not be surprised if they just went "shikata ga nai" and declared a complete lock down and quarantine of the country, telling people who can to work from home an having hazmat JSDF forces take care of keeping places going. They have the discipline and will to make it work. What would really worry me and them is the food situation. Japan hasn't been able to properly feed itself on internal production since the 30's.
 
Train Dodger said:
Ahahahah, oh fuck. I tried warning people. In various places. I tried telling them, days and days ago, only to be rebuffed on SB. We’re screwed.

Click to expand...


It isn't just SB. Their censorship of the issue is at least somewhat obvious and transparent. Places like Facebook, Reddit, YouTube and Twitter are where the real information control is going on. There is a coordinated effort to divert public attention from it. If I had to guess why I would say simply because if people realize how bad it can get we would see a minor financial crisis.
 
MelancholicMechanicus said:
It isn't just SB. Their censorship of the issue is at least somewhat obvious and transparent. Places like Facebook, Reddit, YouTube and Twitter are where the real information control is going on. There is a coordinated effort to divert public attention from it. If I had to guess why I would say simply because if people realize how bad it can get we would see a minor financial crisis.
Click to expand...
I think they are past the stage where they are putting much effort into censoring things not coming from behind The Great Firewall.

The amount of vids on Youtube alone means it'll be almost impossible to stop. I've personally shared the bigger updates on my own FB, though only with my friends, and it has been reacted to enough to know the page wasn't wiped.

The earlier censorship was eneffectual, and I think those companies know it now. The reach of this bug, and the way nations are closing up/cutting access/trade with China due to quartantine measures means trying to hide or censor news about this bug is no longer going to do any good.
 
Train Dodger said:
Guys. Guys. There's a rumor going around that there's a possibility that once inside the body, this shit behaves like Dengue. Your own antibodies don't confer immunity. They enhance the virus. In fact, there was a paper published on this very phenomenon occurring in coronaviruses, by the researchers working in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, days before the outbreak occurred. :eek:
Click to expand...

So don't let them vaccinate you against this thing - it will make you more vulnerable, not less?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top