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ThatZenoGuy

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I swear each month goes by the same.
"Pfizer hit with a whopper of a fine, 2000 dollars (plus tip!)"
"Pfizer makes record profit selling product which incurred such fine, several billion dollars"
 

Iconoclast

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Watch these.







EDIT: The Thai king is rumored to be hiring friggin' ASSASSINS to go after Pfizer. :ROFLMAO:




 
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DarthOne

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Leaked Pfizer Document Shows Embattled Employee From Project Veritas Videos Is Still Employed, Warns Against More 'Anti-Science' Stings​



Embattled Pfizer employee Jordon Trishton Walker appears to still be employed by the pharmaceutical company after he allegedly revealed confidential information about the firm to an undercover Project Veritas journalist, according to a leaked document in which the drugmaker warned employees to watch out for "anti-science activists."

Walker, who leads research and development for mRNA projects at Pfizer, told an undercover Project Veritas reporter that the company's COVID vaccines are impacting women's menstrual cycles and said that the company uses "directed evolution" to mutate coronaviruses for the creation of more potent variants and vaccines.

The document from Pfizer appeared to reference Walker as a current employee.

"We are aware of and managing a recent incident where one of our colleagues was baited into conversation in a social situation and recorded without their knowledge," the document said.

"Fact-based information rooted in sound science is vitally important to preserving Pfizer's scientific innovations, reputation, and trust with business partners, and ultimately enables us to deliver breakthroughs for patients," the document continued. "Anti-science activists are becoming increasingly brazen in their drive to gain and manipulate information, fueling the spread of baseless claims and endangering public health."

Pfizer has not responded to questions from The Daily Wire about Walker's employment status.

Walker had expressed concern that the vaccine was not functioning properly and indicated that the issue may arise from hormonal disruptions.

"I hope we don't discover something really bad down the line. I hope we don't find out that somehow this mRNA lingers in the body," he said, "because it has to be affecting something hormonal to impact menstrual cycles."

Despite claims of inconclusive evidence from fact-checkers, Walker's apparent LinkedIn profile, which has been deleted, and images of more Pfizer documents shared by Project Veritas founder James O'Keefe suggested that he did indeed work for the pharmaceutical firm. Walker was listed as a Pfizer "director of research and development, strategic operations, and mRNA scientific planning."

When confronted by O'Keefe in another video, Walker called himself a "liar" who fabricated the admissions to impress the undercover reporter with whom he believed he was on a date.

The document cautioned Pfizer employers to avoid the "surprising and confrontational" tactics employed by organizations such as Project Veritas.

"This targeting can happen online through social media and dating apps as well as in person through industry conferences or simple social situations, such as a casual conversation with a new acquaintance in a bar, on a date, or at a party," the company warned. "We must safeguard all sensitive and confidential information at all times and exercise extreme caution amid any discussions with acquaintances."

Facebook and Instagram threatened to permanently ban Project Veritas from the platforms after a journalist from the nonprofit confronted YouTube Vice President of Global Trust and Safety Matt Halprin on why the sting video about coronavirus mutation at Pfizer had been removed. Project Veritas added that they had been "wrongfully locked out" of Twitter for nearly two hours on Friday afternoon after the social media company claimed that the Halprin video constituted "abuse and harassment."

Pfizer denied conducting gain-of-function experiments after the initial footage was released.

"Working with collaborators, we have conducted research where the original SARS-CoV-2 virus has been used to express the spike protein from new variants of concern," a statement read. "This work is undertaken once a new variant of concern has been identified by public health authorities. This research provides a way for us to rapidly assess the ability of an existing vaccine to induce antibodies that neutralize a newly identified variant of concern."
 

Jormungandr

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Jormungandr

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Americans trust in God, not science.
To be honest, America is viewed as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" by the rest of the West.

On the one hand, you've got the Left who are (self-described as) atheist and Liberal to the point where... well, I don't have to give a rundown of how batshit insane things have gone with them on this board, do I? Fucking nuts, the whole lot of them. They're literally batshit insane hedonists at best, monsters who want to mutilate and control the population at worst.

I'm an atheist: Christianity and other religions are bunk and are mutants from previous religions -- like linguistic history, it all can be traced back to prior religions, and those religions can be traced back to even more ancient religions. Believing in such things is as logical as believing in The Brothers' Grimm or Harry Potter.

While my morality and social values/principles ultimately came from Christian values (in the same way Western civilization developed from them and Roman/Grecian principles) since I grew up in the West, I myself am not religious at all. I don't have to be Christian to have a moral compass that believes that what a lot of shit done these days by the Left and even the Right is outright despicable and evil, like some Christians (even on this forum) have stated before (basically, "if you don't believe in God or have Christian morals, you're going to be lost/be a monster", to paraphrase).

I'm also horrified at what "atheists" on the Left do on a regular basis: being an atheist is not an excuse or carte blanche for being such fucked up, terrible people, or using it to excuse heinous behavior like what supporters of the Jab and its boosters stooped to ("trust the science!") in persecuting people, businesses, and ways of life.

However, on the other hand, you've got the Right and Conservatives whose constant beliefs and "look to God for the answers!" can be just as bad (especially when it comes to hot topics like abortion), and frankly it creeps out the rest of the world who sees half of America as being religious zealots on some level or another.

At the risk of pissing people off on here? I've even seen shades of it in passing even on this forum from people I consider friends.

Yes, the UK has its own crippling problems (especially with the recent decision for the CoE to recognize same sex marriages -- that's a slippery slope, as we've seen with the United States in the last decade), but the obsession (or lack of, in the case of the Left) with Christianity is something we (thankfully) don't have in our everyday lives and politics.

I say all this by having developed my opinion by talking with Americans who lean both sides of your politics and social spectrum, this forum included.

Americans are, frankly, your own worst enemy, and it's affecting how the world sees you -- you're either Leftoids or basically religious nuts on some level or another. I guarantee you that if I ever moved to the States, especially in certain areas/states, I would either be considered as bad as the Leftoids for being an atheist ("lack of moral compass because I don't believe in a Sky Fairy or a book of ancient fables") or one of them, or unironically I'd low-key or actively be persecuted/ostracized because I'm not Christian.

America's problems go deeper than the typical Left/Right and Liberal/Conservative divide, and it's all coming to a head in this and the last decade.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
I'm also horrified at what "atheists" on the Left do on a regular basis: being an atheist is not an excuse or carte blanche for being such fucked up, terrible people, or using it to excuse heinous behavior like what supporters of the Jab and its boosters stooped to ("trust the science!") in persecuting people, businesses, and ways of life.
No, actually, atheism really, really is exactly that excuse.

When you turn morality into a matter of personal preference, it's as easy as changing one's opinion to morally justify literally anything.

There's a reason that all the great butchers of the 20th century were atheists, and it isn't 'coincidence.' It is the inevitable result of men trying to become god.

And yes, some morally corrupt people have used the social and political hierarchies of christianity to do the same, but fascinatingly they were neither as successful in their slaughter, nor able to justify it by the creed they taught.

If you want to argue, then tell me what moral injunction inherent to atheism bars people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot from doing what they did?
 

Iconoclast

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The COVID-19 vaccine genocide was not the product of any religious or moral creed, or lack thereof. It was a product of the ideologies of scientism and managerialism. Together, these ideologies represent the mistaken belief that other human beings are mere puzzles to be solved by dainty, finger-steepling bureaucrats, rather than being equal partners in the creation and sustainment of society.

 

Morphic Tide

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If you want to argue, then tell me what moral injunction inherent to atheism bars people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot from doing what they did?
"Atheism" is a description that something is absent from a worldview. You may as well argue about all the atrocities against "heathens" and "infidels" as grounds to write off monotheism as a whole, or the sacrifice industry of the Aztecs as a definite condemnation of all polytheism.

This was kicked off by Martin Luthor calling the Catholic Church out on its shit over 500 years ago, which soon after broke Rome's "Big Lie" of totalizing morality that Christianity as they teach needs to make any sense. And by then, there wasn't any remaining experience with cohabitating with different worldviews.

Thus the bloodbaths of the Protestant Reformation, because by force-feeding Europe the notion that ethics must be universal and objective to be valid and to dissent was to suffer eternal torment/annihilation until there was nothing else left, any disagreement on ethics became an unbounded imperative to eradicate the other.

As opposed to the previous norms of syncretism and accepting that going somewhere else meant you had to follow that other place's norms. On the societal scale across history, moral relativism is the norm, because that's how you handle people Over There who you don't talk to inevitably coming to behave differently.

Christianity's answer was always "if we can reach it, we must convert it", and once they ran out of easy converts you started seeing knives drawn to be rid of heresy. That is where genocidal Utopian ideologies came from. Christian moral objectivism is what birthed these horrors, because the Church dropped the keys shaking down nobles for money.
 

Bacle

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No, actually, atheism really, really is exactly that excuse.

When you turn morality into a matter of personal preference, it's as easy as changing one's opinion to morally justify literally anything.

There's a reason that all the great butchers of the 20th century were atheists, and it isn't 'coincidence.' It is the inevitable result of men trying to become god.

And yes, some morally corrupt people have used the social and political hierarchies of christianity to do the same, but fascinatingly they were neither as successful in their slaughter, nor able to justify it by the creed they taught.

If you want to argue, then tell me what moral injunction inherent to atheism bars people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot from doing what they did?
The Spanish burning of the Mayan codices as heresys, the 'conversion-at-sword-point' crusades (not just a Muslim action) and similar actions in the Americas, the Inquisition's excesses, the outright corruption in the Vatican and schism with the Orthodox and Copts (Copts are closet thing to ancestral, true Christians left, with roots older than European or Greek Christendom and nowhere near the blood on their hands as religious organizations compared to both the Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox), the Salem Witch Trials (the Right really likes to ignore this events impact on the America psyche/folklore when it comes to warnings about religion, and the Founders were not that far removed from the time of the witch trials), and things like the Waco (yes, the ATF were murderous cunts there, but the religious group were borderline groomers in how their isolationist streak affected their kids, which is conveniently ignored by the Right), and then things like the Scopes Monkey trial over teaching evolution.

There is a reason the Left in the US find converts in those who have expereinced abuses by people claiming to be religious, and the Right is going to have to reckon with that at some point.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
To be honest, America is viewed as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" by the rest of the West.

On the one hand, you've got the Left who are (self-described as) atheist and Liberal to the point where... well, I don't have to give a rundown of how batshit insane things have gone with them on this board, do I? Fucking nuts, the whole lot of them. They're literally batshit insane hedonists at best, monsters who want to mutilate and control the population at worst.

I'm an atheist: Christianity and other religions are bunk and are mutants from previous religions -- like linguistic history, it all can be traced back to prior religions, and those religions can be traced back to even more ancient religions. Believing in such things is as logical as believing in The Brothers' Grimm or Harry Potter.

While my morality and social values/principles ultimately came from Christian values (in the same way Western civilization developed from them and Roman/Grecian principles) since I grew up in the West, I myself am not religious at all. I don't have to be Christian to have a moral compass that believes that what a lot of shit done these days by the Left and even the Right is outright despicable and evil, like some Christians (even on this forum) have stated before (basically, "if you don't believe in God or have Christian morals, you're going to be lost/be a monster", to paraphrase).

I'm also horrified at what "atheists" on the Left do on a regular basis: being an atheist is not an excuse or carte blanche for being such fucked up, terrible people, or using it to excuse heinous behavior like what supporters of the Jab and its boosters stooped to ("trust the science!") in persecuting people, businesses, and ways of life.

However, on the other hand, you've got the Right and Conservatives whose constant beliefs and "look to God for the answers!" can be just as bad (especially when it comes to hot topics like abortion), and frankly it creeps out the rest of the world who sees half of America as being religious zealots on some level or another.

At the risk of pissing people off on here? I've even seen shades of it in passing even on this forum from people I consider friends.

Yes, the UK has its own crippling problems (especially with the recent decision for the CoE to recognize same sex marriages -- that's a slippery slope, as we've seen with the United States in the last decade), but the obsession (or lack of, in the case of the Left) with Christianity is something we (thankfully) don't have in our everyday lives and politics.

I say all this by having developed my opinion by talking with Americans who lean both sides of your politics and social spectrum, this forum included.

Americans are, frankly, your own worst enemy, and it's affecting how the world sees you -- you're either Leftoids or basically religious nuts on some level or another. I guarantee you that if I ever moved to the States, especially in certain areas/states, I would either be considered as bad as the Leftoids for being an atheist ("lack of moral compass because I don't believe in a Sky Fairy or a book of ancient fables") or one of them, or unironically I'd low-key or actively be persecuted/ostracized because I'm not Christian.

America's problems go deeper than the typical Left/Right and Liberal/Conservative divide, and it's all coming to a head in this and the last decade.

The religous right is actually a whole lot more tolerant then people give them credit for.

I'm jewish and quite openly so, I treat their convictions with respect and for the most part relgious people will treat my convictions with respect. I've lived in trailer parks I've been around these people and for the most part if you treat them with respect they will do so for you as well.

The people who have treated me the absolute worst were socialists of various stripes.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard

This is an interesting alternate history and all, but it doesn't actually answer my question. Not that said question was directed at you in the first place, but it's fascinating how you're trying to blame Christianity for things which became rife once Christianity was rejected.

Certainly, there are also horrible things which happened when Europe at large was 'christendom,' but those have the distinction of going directly against the teachings of Christ. People committing those atrocities may have claimed to be Christian, but the lie was obvious by how they defied what Christ commanded, grossly and repeatedly. Yet even as such crimes were committed, they were still less common than what came as soon as christianity was rejected by large swathes of the leadership of Europe.

What fundamental atheist virtues, exactly, were violated when the soviets created the Gulag Archipelago? When they starved millions of Ukrainians to death intentionally? When Mao's red chinese starved tens of millions to death?
 

Rocinante

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The religous right is actually a whole lot more tolerant then people give them credit for.

I'm jewish and quite openly so, I treat their convictions with respect and for the most part relgious people will treat my convictions with respect. I've lived in trailer parks I've been around these people and for the most part if you treat them with respect they will do so for you as well.

The people who have treated me the absolute worst were socialists of various stripes.
Whackjobs on the internet give them a bad name.

Almost every religious right person I have met in real life was kind and respectful, and would sacrifice plenty to help other people.
 

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