China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Scottty

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Speaking of China generally... I found this comment on a site out there:
There'e a currently quite popular futurist out there who has a contrarian take on China's Inevitable Rise Because They Play The Long Game So Well. He says it's all bullshit. I agree with him. "Q: If China's Rise is so inevitable, why in all their 5000 years of history as a political entity is it only NOW that they're coming up? When a mere century or so ago, they were the laughingstock whores of the western world, getting their lands carved up by more competent polities whilst they mewled impotently and thus losing infinite Face in the process? When a mere 80 years ago, they lost every single skirmish they had with Japan, despite a) being on home soil and b) outnumbering the enemy by 4-10 to 1? When the only reason the IJA marched outta china was because The USA made em leave? When 65 years ago, they destroyed their own economy and starved 30,000,000 or so chinese to death because their boss commie was worried about keeping his job? And then of course there's 1989…"
A: Because Uncle Sam has, somewhat intentionally AND somewhat accidentally, made it possible for china to do so. The only reason there even IS a CCP is because we had scummy commie traitors in the State Dept who pulled the rug out from Chiang, and made Mao's "victory" possible. (along with much invaluable help from American (((special people))) ) The only reason the Soviets didn't nuke china in their late-60's border disputes is because Murrica, and ONLY Murrica, made it known we would disapprove of such rudeness. The only reason china has a semi-modern economy at all is because our boys & gals in D.C. & Wall St shipped off tens of trillions of $$$ of factories over there. (y'all remember voting for that, right?} The only reason china is able to import the vast amounts of food & oil & gas & commodities they need to keep their heads above water is because the US Navy ALLOWS IT by keeping the oceans pirate-free. etc etc etc. Naturally, china being full of chinese, they have repaid this suicidally naive yankee largesse with rots & rots of shitty little chinee trickery.
China's "rise" will stop precisely when the USA decides to make it stop. USN/Jap/Indian destroyer TF's in the Indian Ocean/The Straits brings china's food & oil gravy train to a grinding halt. From that point, it's simply a matter of not-too-much time until china enters its **next** centuries-long "warring states" or "warlord" period. After they have their **next** civil war followed by a nightmarish famine that kills hundreds of millions of chinese. How long y'all spoze the 3 Gorges Dam has until it collapses? Especially when they can't get parts any longer? 5 years? 10? tick-tock, tick-tock…..
China's "rise" has already peaked, and they're swirling around the shitter with increasing speed. And Taiwan or no Taiwan, there's no saving them – so down they go. (every penny stolen from the Taiwan bank robbery will go straight into the Xi famirry bankee account, and nowhere else. everyone knows this) China is a joke that's been told, and the laughter is dying out. And the world will happily forget allllll about china. As we should.
 

Cherico

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Speaking of China generally... I found this comment on a site out there:

China has had a bunch of periods in their history where they thrived and had competent leadership, and were one of the most advanced countries in the world. They have been a pretty consistent civilization state for thousands of years. While sure there have been a bunch of dynasties some of them forgine some of them local the chinese people have pretty consistently been a pretty important player.

The thing one has to remember though.

Is that we are not looking at china as it normally is. The CCP is a historical aberation and is not normal china, Mao very deliberately destroyed chinese culture in such a way that the countries very soul was destroyed. You want to see how chinese culture would look like with out communism look at Taiwan.

Its sad its depressing and its not going to get better until the chinese people murder the absolute fuck out of the CCP and replace them with some thing more in line with how their culture is supposed to work. This process is going to be a very painful one but they will most likely exit it in a much better space.
 

Jormungandr

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China has had a bunch of periods in their history where they thrived and had competent leadership, and were one of the most advanced countries in the world. They have been a pretty consistent civilization state for thousands of years. While sure there have been a bunch of dynasties some of them foreign some of them local the chinese people have pretty consistently been a pretty important player.

The thing one has to remember though.

Is that we are not looking at china as it normally is. The CCP is a historical aberration and is not normal china, Mao very deliberately destroyed chinese culture in such a way that the countries very soul was destroyed. You want to see how chinese culture would look like with out communism look at Taiwan.

Its sad its depressing and its not going to get better until the chinese people murder the absolute fuck out of the CCP and replace them with some thing more in line with how their culture is supposed to work. This process is going to be a very painful one but they will most likely exit it in a much better space.
Cultural arrogance also comes into play, even if the CCP weren't a thing.

Yes, they were one of the most advanced civilizations to exist... in the past.

Unfortunately for them, the world not only passed them but surpassed them centuries ago. They're not top dog any more, but on a cultural level they still believe themselves to be, despite literally having their teeth kicked in multiple times in recent history (and in the past since, ironically and as you said, many of their leaders weren't Chinese/Han but peoples like the Mongols whom adopted Chinese culture/governance, which adds to the fuel of "Chinese culture/way of life = superior" in their eyes).

But anyway, they still view the world as basically belonging to China, with other countries/peoples being barbarians that should feel honoured that the Chinese state/people are interacting/trading with them, or that they're allowing them to be of service to them in some way, or that their territory should belong to China (see Tibet, the border disputes with India in the mountains, the "fishing" in other countries' waters, et cetera).

So, yeah -- for China to heal and grow, they need to not only ditch the CCP and murder its legacy but also shed the cultural arrogance; otherwise, they'll just repeat the same cycle which, because of how the world is now and with China being a second string player at best, isn't going to be so kind to them as in the "old days".
 

ATP

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Cultural arrogance also comes into play, even if the CCP weren't a thing.

Yes, they were one of the most advanced civilizations to exist... in the past.

Unfortunately for them, the world not only passed them but surpassed them centuries ago. They're not top dog any more, but on a cultural level they still believe themselves to be, despite literally having their teeth kicked in multiple times in recent history (and in the past since, ironically and as you said, many of their leaders weren't Chinese/Han but peoples like the Mongols whom adopted Chinese culture/governance, which adds to the fuel of "Chinese culture/way of life = superior" in their eyes).

But anyway, they still view the world as basically belonging to China, with other countries/peoples being barbarians that should feel honoured that the Chinese state/people are interacting/trading with them, or that they're allowing them to be of service to them in some way, or that their territory should belong to China (see Tibet, the border disputes with India in the mountains, the "fishing" in other countries' waters, et cetera).

So, yeah -- for China to heal and grow, they need to not only ditch the CCP and murder its legacy but also shed the cultural arrogance; otherwise, they'll just repeat the same cycle which, because of how the world is now and with China being a second string player at best, isn't going to be so kind to them as in the "old days".
I read many books written by poles who either worked in China,or go there as tourists.All agree that average chineese is very arrogant,and belive that China was,are and would be center of world.

And,according to what i read about 19th century,even when get beaten they still considered foreign ambassadors as people who come to pay homage...
 

Cherico

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Cultural arrogance also comes into play, even if the CCP weren't a thing.

Yes, they were one of the most advanced civilizations to exist... in the past.

Unfortunately for them, the world not only passed them but surpassed them centuries ago. They're not top dog any more, but on a cultural level they still believe themselves to be, despite literally having their teeth kicked in multiple times in recent history (and in the past since, ironically and as you said, many of their leaders weren't Chinese/Han but peoples like the Mongols whom adopted Chinese culture/governance, which adds to the fuel of "Chinese culture/way of life = superior" in their eyes).

But anyway, they still view the world as basically belonging to China, with other countries/peoples being barbarians that should feel honoured that the Chinese state/people are interacting/trading with them, or that they're allowing them to be of service to them in some way, or that their territory should belong to China (see Tibet, the border disputes with India in the mountains, the "fishing" in other countries' waters, et cetera).

So, yeah -- for China to heal and grow, they need to not only ditch the CCP and murder its legacy but also shed the cultural arrogance; otherwise, they'll just repeat the same cycle which, because of how the world is now and with China being a second string player at best, isn't going to be so kind to them as in the "old days".

they do need to let go of the ego but such a process is always difficult I mean look how hard it was for the brits to get over the empire or just france in general.....

and being a second string player in a world with hundreds of countries is not a bad thing in general its a painful adjustment.
 

Jormungandr

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I read many books written by poles who either worked in China,or go there as tourists.All agree that average chineese is very arrogant,and believe that China was,are and would be center of world.

And,according to what i read about 19th century,even when get beaten they still considered foreign ambassadors as people who come to pay homage...
Yep.

There's pride and then there's arrogance, and they typically dip into the latter.

What's funny is that they have a weird love/hate relationship with White people; there are positions in Chinese companies called "White Monkeys" where White people are used as the fronts of their company's PR/meetings for prestige purposes.

If your company has a White Monkey, you're more likely to receive deals and agreements with other Chinese companies. :unsure:
they do need to let go of the ego but such a process is always difficult I mean look how hard it was for the brits to get over the empire or just france in general.....

and being a second string player in a world with hundreds of countries is not a bad thing in general its a painful adjustment.
Yep, we were arrogant and we did a lot of bad shit (although the demonization of the past by certain people is bloody hilarious), but then again we did have an empire which spanned the entire world -- we sort of earned that arrogance, not that it was a good thing to earn. We just did empire-building better than most other countries. shrug
 

Cherico

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Yep.

There's pride and then there's arrogance, and they typically dip into the latter.

What's funny is that they have a weird love/hate relationship with White people; there are positions in Chinese companies called "White Monkeys" where White people are used as the fronts of their company's PR/meetings for prestige purposes.

If your company has a White Monkey, you're more likely to receive deals and agreements with other Chinese companies. :unsure:

Yep, we were arrogant and we did a lot of bad shit (although the demonization of the past by certain people is bloody hilarious), but then again we did have an empire which spanned the entire world -- we sort of earned that arrogance, not that it was a good thing to earn. We just did empire-building better than most other countries. shrug

You should be arrogant for ending global slavery, thats incredibly massive, and the fact that the wokies refuse to give you credit for that shit makes me think their evil twits.
 

Iconoclast

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Reasons not to get a COVID-19 vaccine:
  • Many of the billionaires involved in vaccine philanthropy and biodefense advocacy, such as Bill Gates and Ted Turner, are Neo-Malthusian depopulationists and have explicitly expressed an interest in population reduction.
  • Nathan Wolfe, the founder of Metabiota, was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Boris Nikolic, and Bill Gates, was a founding member of Ghislaine Maxwell's fake ocean charity TerraMar, and was also on the editorial board of EcoHealth Alliance.
  • Hunter Biden and Devon Archer funded Metabiota through Rosemont Seneca, and when this came to light, the Wikipedia page on their investment firm was erased.
  • Peter Daszak has been outed as a CIA asset by Andrew Huff, the former VP of EcoHealth Alliance.
  • EcoHealth Alliance made a grant proposal to DARPA called DEFUSE to work on something that sounds very much like the building blocks for SARS-CoV-2. The proposal was rejected for being unsafe GOF research, but it is possible the actual work was already done, since it's common in science to request grant funding for work done in advance.
  • Moderna's CEO, Stephane Bancel, was formerly the CEO of BioMerieux, whose founder, Alain Merieux, helped China build the P4 lab at the WIV and was awarded China's Reform Friendship Award next to Klaus Schwab for it.
  • mRNA vaccines are the product of shady military biodefense partnerships which see CIA/In-Q-Tel, DARPA, and DTRA-linked pharmaceutical companies producing vaccines under OTAs as "military prototypes to demonstrate mass production", with no GMP compliance and high rates of contamination and impurities. The usual "defense contractor pharma" suspects, such as Resilience and Emergent BioSolutions/BioPort, are involved.
  • mRNA therapies languished in development hell for over a decade because they were too toxic for human use. Moderna's abortive research into an mRNA therapy for Crigler-Najjar demonstrated this.
  • NIH and Moderna co-own coronavirus vaccine patents. NIH also funds EcoHealth Alliance and their research, which likely produced SARS-CoV-2 at the WIV. This means that the same funding streams that produced the virus also produced the vaccine. Hence, the entire scheme is a deeply appalling form of RICO.
  • SARS-CoV-2, through its novel furin cleavage site and the presence of suspicious restriction sites in its genome, shows signs of deliberate tampering.
  • The individuals advancing the zoonosis theory of SARS-CoV-2 emergence had private chats where they did not believe the conclusions of the paper they were writing, and admitted that their reasons for pushing the zoonosis theory were political and all about protecting Chinese virology labs from criticism.
  • The SARS-CoV-2 Spike is profoundly amyloidogenic and prionogenic and can cause amyloid-fibrin microclotting and other protein aggregation disorders. In some people, this has produced rubbery, cell-free "calamari clots" of amyloid and fibrin, which have been removed from their bodies post-mortem, analyzed, and determined to be virtually solid hunks of protein.
  • mRNA and DNA vaccines work by inducing cells to decorate their exteriors with full-length Spike proteins, attracting antibodies and leading to an immune response that will destroy those cells. LNPs and viral vectors are not specific to deltoid muscle tissue, are distributed systemically, and can provoke an immune response against healthy tissue far from the injection site, leading to inflammatory injury to the vital organs, autoimmune disease, Guillain-Barre, MS, new-onset diabetes, myocarditis/pericarditis, aortic dissection, and death. This is the natural consequence of using human cells as bioreactors to produce and display a foreign protein.
  • Denis Rancourt calculated that COVID-19 vaccines are killing 1 in 800 people for every dose, on average.
  • Repeat COVID-19 vaccinations are leading to an IgG4 class switch (a form of immune tolerance) where the body starts regarding SARS-CoV-2 Spike as a harmless allergen and ignoring it.
  • All-cause mortality and life insurance claims have been on the rise since vaccine rollouts, and governments are not only refusing to publicly acknowledge this, they are either burying the statistics or changing their methodologies to produce more favorable numbers.
  • The package inserts for the COVID-19 vaccines were blank.
  • The COVID-19 vaccines were sold to our governments according to secret contracts that their manufacturers planned to keep under wraps basically forever.
  • The Ventavia whistleblower Brook Jackson noted anomalous and improper clinical trial methods used by Pfizer. Pfizer's excuse for committing fraud was that they carried out the fraud as specifically requested by government, and therefore could not be held liable for it.
  • The FDA wanted a 75-year delay before Pfizer's vaccine data could be released.
  • FOIA requests about COVID-19 vaccine side effects are resulting in the public being handed blanked-out, completely redacted documents.
  • COVID-19 vaccination, masking, and lockdowns have been supported by a brutal, undemocratic, and repressive campaign of government censorship (and, in the US, First Amendment violations), privacy invasions, iatrogenic death from COVID sufferers being treated improperly in hospitals with a deadly and ineffective protocol, draconian policing, debanking, and so on.
  • Officials have repeatedly demonstrated their untrustworthiness and their ongoing hostility toward the public.
Reasons to get a COVID-19 vaccine:
  • Given that the virus is now endemic and basically everyone is seropositive for it, vaccine or not, the answer is none. There are literally no good reasons to get it.
 

Captain X

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I think I've caught it for a 3rd time, incidentally. I don't have any test kits and I honestly don't care enough to run out and get one, but it feels a lot like the first two times I got it. Dammit. :(
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
I think I've caught it for a 3rd time, incidentally. I don't have any test kits and I honestly don't care enough to run out and get one, but it feels a lot like the first two times I got it. Dammit. :(
Let me guess. Gastro and fatigue?

When I had COVID, it felt like a stomach flu.
 
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Bacle

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@*THASF* what exactly is your goal by just dumping documents and articles in here at this point, when 90% it's just a rehash of what we already know and nothing will come of it, no matter how much effort you put in?

Like, at this point everyone in the world has either gotten the Wu Flu or it's vax's, the evidence of both the lableak theory and the vax toxicity is mounting mostly from documents being uncovered, whether it's a gaint RICO case or straight up government depopulation scheme or both seems moot given those behind it will never be held to account, and at this point no new finding or documentation is going to change anything.

You don't need to 'keep up the fight', @*THASF*, the fight is already over, and your efforts aren't going to change anything at this point. You did your job raising awareness, in trying to get the word out, but at this point you can give it a rest, and no one will think less of you.
 

Iconoclast

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Obozny
@*THASF* what exactly is your goal by just dumping documents and articles in here at this point, when 90% it's just a rehash of what we already know and nothing will come of it, no matter how much effort you put in?

Like, at this point everyone in the world has either gotten the Wu Flu or it's vax's, the evidence of both the lableak theory and the vax toxicity is mounting mostly from documents being uncovered, whether it's a gaint RICO case or straight up government depopulation scheme or both seems moot given those behind it will never be held to account, and at this point no new finding or documentation is going to change anything.

You don't need to 'keep up the fight', @*THASF*, the fight is already over, and your efforts aren't going to change anything at this point. You did your job raising awareness, in trying to get the word out, but at this point you can give it a rest, and no one will think less of you.
The perpetrators are still out there. They’re still killing innocent people. When my father took the vaccine to keep his job, he became diabetic and visibly aged ten years. I was fired from my job of seven years for not taking it. A friend of mine died on a ventilator. I, along with billions of other people, was subjected to gaslighting and psychological torture. In the process of trying to warn people about what was coming, I lost friends and was banned from multiple boards and cut off from my support network, isolated and left to rot.

For me, this is deeply personal. I will make these sons of bitches pay for what they did.
 

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