China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[posh-goofiness]

...I don't think justice can be done for a crime of this magnitude, or to those truly responsible, I think is the difference here. I also think there are more useful avenues for THASF's focus and insight than retribution, things much healthier for his mind and for the minds of others here.

I joke about a Nuremberg 2.0 for Fauci and co, because I do feel so many deserve it for what was done, but I also know that it's highly doubtful that will ever happen. It's a meme to cope with how horrible everything around the Wu Flu and it's vax is, and how little can realistically be done about it.

At best maybe we can do something to enhance fertility via other means going forward to compensate for the lost. I think focusing on fertility enhancement is overall more helpful to humanity than vengeance or retribution for the Wu Flu and vax at this point, even if I deeply understand the desire for it over what was done with the Wu Flu and it's vax's.

I also frankly am not sure focusing on this issue in anger and a desire for retribution is healthy for THASF or anyone else, and as I said I was worried about if he could be objective about the issue given how close he is and how much time he has dedicated to it.

We do more for humanity trying to help more babies be born than focusing well deserved anger at Fauci and friends, even if vengeance/retribution against them is more than justified on both moral and legal grounds.

@*THASF* 's work can help undue the damage in medical terms, with the facts it gives that can be used to create fertility enhancers to counter the Wu Flu and vax damage.

If we really want to spite Fauci and friends, go out and make many babies, or help others make babies with medical research, and teach then teach said babies to hate Fauci and his ilk.

The best revenge is reproduction.

I think righteous anger is fine. The bitterness he mentioned, however, is concerning.

A new Nuremberg really isn't as out of the question as you seem to believe though. It's not like people have forgotten what was done and, at least for now, legal means of retaliation are still open and being pursued. There are still hearings, committees, PACs, and small groups of people working at this. Rather than accept the status quo we need to fight too. Resignation, as you call it, is the exact poison needed to kill those groups.

Agreed on your point about reproduction. Not the fertility drug part, though. I just wouldn't trust it.

 

[Bacle]

I think righteous anger is fine. The bitterness he mentioned, however, is concerning.

A new Nuremberg really isn't as out of the question as you seem to believe though. It's not like people have forgotten what was done and, at least for now, legal means of retaliation are still open and being pursued. There are still hearings, committees, PACs, and small groups of people working at this. Rather than accept the status quo we need to fight too. Resignation, as you call it, is the exact poison needed to kill those groups.

I know people are still working on things, but I have not seen anything that seems to have moved the public needle one way or another from where it's been since...well, about when Trump left office and SCOTUS struck down the vax mandates.

I have in fact seen most media and public figures boost or double down on the Wu Flu vax's, while the SCOTUS decision is effectively forgotten and/or ignored except when places want to use legal coercion to force the WU Flu vax on people.

I've seen too many hot-takes about how 'they have Fauci now', nearly as many as the Left have for 'the walls are closing in on Trump', and think the focus on retribution for what was done is nearly useless now, because Trump and most of the the GOP have no interest in holding Fauci accountable.

Shit, outside Rand Paul, I don't think anyone still views 'retribution for the Wu Flu/anger at Fauci' as an active issue, and Paul's shot some of his credibility with normies in the foot on other, foreign policy issues lately.

In fact, some of the people who came out to warn about the virus and vax got really dumb when it came to some foreign policy takes because they acted like the Kremlin was more credible/trustworthy than DC due to the virus/vax stuff at the very worst time imaginable. Even I fell for it more than I should have due to grifters and such, till the bridge went up in Chernobyl, and owe @Zachowon for that opening our eyes there as much as we owe @*THASF* for his work on the Wu Flu/vax.

Crossing the ideological/political streams of trying to warn about the Wu Flu stuff, while also going on about 'Ukraine's biolabs' at the same time, did serious damage to a lot of normies ability to take the info about the Wu Flu and it's vax's being a lab leak and the vax's being worse than the bug. The harm the virus and vax caused was then able to be labelled 'Russian propaganda' by a media already primed against the people warning about the Wu Flu and primed against Russia because of the 'Trump/Russia Collusion Hoax', and made it more easy/easier to dismiss out of hand by some segments of the public.

The shooting of the Wu Flu virus/vax warning movement in the foot over believing the Russian lies about the invasion of Ukraine is something I think some really don't want to reckon with.

Agreed on your point about reproduction. Not the fertility drug part, though. I just wouldn't trust it.

Less needing a fertility drug(s), and more knowing how best to compensate for any fertility loss from the Wu Flu or it's vax's, and doing the best we can to enhance human fertility going forward with the Wu Flu and vax's in the environment now.

 

[Captain X]

Let me guess. Gastro and fatigue?

When I had COVID, it felt like a stomach flu.

No, for me it's always been like the head cold from hell. I get a sinus headache that no medicine will ever fully address, loads of mucus, coughing from said mucus running down my throat, fever and chills. This time around, I also have joint and muscle pain. It's also taking longer to get over this time. It's frustrating because there's no medicine that really does much to ease the symptoms. Nasal sprays are probably the most effective, but they still don't get rid of the headache entirely.

People, not every illness is caused by Covid-19.

I've had it twice before, I know what it feels like.

 

[Zachowon]

I had it three times.

 

[Iconoclast]

This is about far more than a virus, @Bacle. This is about neoliberalism morphing into technocratic neofeudalism. This is about our formerly liberal societies becoming post-liberal cesspools that service a tiny rentier aristocracy at the expense of the rest of us. It is not one single crime, but an ongoing process.

I warned people about this on SB, a decade ago. I said that if you take green rhetoric to its logical conclusion, then there will be no cars and no airlines, and people will be smushed into pseudo-arcologies with everything they need within walking distance. I said it wasn’t enough, and that they’d push depopulation. I said that AI would take over creative jobs. Remember all those arguments I had with Gamesguy? I wonder what he'd say now, given that literally everything I said would happen is, in fact, happening?

Besides, why would I more disappointed at some hypothetical later date than I am already? They lethally injected small children. I can't imagine anything that could happen in the future that could possibly make me any angrier than I already am.

 

[Zachowon]

Should I remind everyone that Trump was and still is fully confident in the vax?

 

[Captain X]

It'll be easier to get through to him than to literally any Democrat, whose first instinct is to censor anything criticizing or questioning the vax.

 

[Bigking321]

Should I remind everyone that Trump was and still is fully confident in the vax?

So? We think he's wrong. Trump has never been perfect.

What are you trying to say? Don't vote for him because of it?

Biden knows it's poison and wants to force people to take it. Vaccine mandates for everyone! Or you lose your job and can't buy food!

Trump is arrogant and doesn't want to admit he trusted the experts and they lied to him. But even then he just made it a available option. No forced mandates at all.

Plus, you know, he's better than Biden in literally every conceivable way.

 

[Zachowon]

I'm not saying don't vote for him.
Just that nothing involving justice for the vax will come from him

 

[Iconoclast]

There can be no bargaining, no peace, no reconciliation, whatsoever, with people who think human rights are optional.

 

[ATP]

There can be no bargaining, no peace, no reconciliation, whatsoever, with people who think human rights are optional.

They are not - GOD LAWS ARE ABSOLUTE.But that fucker is no god.

 

[DarthOne]

There can be no bargaining, no peace, no reconciliation, whatsoever, with people who think human rights are optional.

bet he'll sing a different tune if put in front of a firing squad, where he belongs.

 

[Scottty]

There can be no bargaining, no peace, no reconciliation, whatsoever, with people who think human rights are optional.

So when their Supreme Court tells them to stop doing human rights violations, they just give it the finger?

 

[DarthOne]

So when their Supreme Court tells them to stop doing human rights violations, they just give it the finger?

Bold of you to assume that will happen. It's Australia my friend.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Captain X]

Rand Paul discusses the proclivity of the Executive Branch to avoid oversight and to either ignore requests for information, or to redact what are supposed to be unclassified reports.

 

[Zachowon]

Unclassified does have CUI and FOUO and even NoForn and Rel To on it.

So that might be why.

 

[Terthna]

Unclassified does have CUI and FOUO and even NoForn and Rel To on it.

So that might be why.

It still doesn't explain why they felt the need to redact every single word. That's just lazy.

 

[Zachowon]

I was jist adding context as to there is legally reasons they might have.
I didn't see the video

 

[Scottty]

Giving him a pile of blank pages is basically just a refusal to provide information.