Israel 🇮🇱 State of Israel Thread
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Do not knew,do not care.I care about jews spittiong on catholics monk there.
TheRejectionist
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49ersfootball
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Do you hate Israel or something because it's implying you're an anti-Semite.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
I am a former philo-Zionist. I visited Tel Aviv, Jerulasem and other cities there years ago. Dated even an IDF soldier (but to a degree everyone is IDF there). Personally, I thought the video was relevant to the topic that's why I posted it here.
It's a bit odd you made that inquiry, considering if I was indeed one, you would have noticed a pattern in my postings that would arose that question of yours much earlier. Not to mention it will be quite ironic considering I have been banned in other forums because I tended (and subreddits, back when there were still some decent ones and not just a few) to have an objective opinion on Israel.
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Yup this is why we need to kick out the evangelicals and others on the right who kick Israel’s ass for everything.
This?
LMAO, not because of the China or Russia stuff, not because the troubles between ultra-orthodox and Christians... But because of the left wing of DNC (aka progressive caucus) and their fucking leftist ideological gripes with Israel's politics...
Fuck this shit in particular.
King Arts
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Did you not watch the video? Styx was talking about how Jews in Israel were spitting on christians. What are you talking about?
And that was a tiny part of the video...
King Arts
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What do you mean? It was a whole bunch about Israel how they are racist how tried to sterilize Ethiopian Jews, how “conservatives” threw a bitch fit when Obama said Israel needs to learn its place when ordering us to give it free stuff. How only in recent years has some parts of the left been willing to do anything other than kiss Israel’s ass while the right are busy being cuckolds for it. Israel could sell weapons and tech to China and fuck their wives and they’d say thank you sir.
And why would right wingers care about Israel being mean to its not really wanted migrants?
That's something that the left all over the world universally obsesses about, including us wanting to be mean to our own manifestations of that problem.
I'm pretty sure Obama was not referring to military stuff in his comment either.
And Israel is trying to rein in the shady weapon deals.
King Arts
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Why are you side stepping the issue? It’s fine for conservatives to not care about Israel, however it is a problem to simp for Israel and defend it from all criticism and make its protection and support a core plant of your policy. And no Obama was talking about Israel’s attitude because to be honest they should be the junior partner in any dealings with the US.
Calling it racist doesn't exactly sound like the definition of not caring.
It's usually more complicated than that outside of the world of 160 character soundbites dumbed down to the average consumer of such. Some politicians make the mistake of forgetting that, but many of the *specific* criticisms you brought up are characteristic of progressives, as exemplified by the DNC progressive caucus politician whose name is in the very title of the video you have linked.
Come on, we all know that calling countries racist and telling them to be more welcoming to migrants is not a right wing thing, we know who does that and who cares about that.
Of course, though the dealings of interest are quite different between, say, a Bush and a Obama, and sometimes they may even be conflicting.
King Arts
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I said it’s ok for conservatives to not care about Israel that means not caring it does not mean white knighting for them and trying to defend them for no gain.
Also what you said was delusional the only thing I said that is possibly a left talking point was the racism. But that’s stupid for multiple reasons first are you saying conservatives can’t oppose racism? Second even if we decide conservatives support ethno states and all people should be United by their race. Do we do it at all times even with groups that oppose us? Should we not look into Jewish voting patterns and see how there is much support for leftism here? Many were highly supportive of sanctions on South Africa for example. My question is why should Israel get an ethni state but other groups don’t? Why do you feel the need to wimp for Israeli interests? If you were getting paid for it yes that would make sense but neither Europe nor America benefits from Israel being ethnically Jewish and having that privilege towards ethnic Jews while western nations have multi culturalism.
Supporting Obama's Israel stance, also a bit leftist.
By the same logic that a conservative *can* support gay marriage. In theory, but he's probably a shitty conservative if out of all things he could be doing he is throwing leftist attack labels at other countries, and not even outright enemy ones at that.
And how many of them are in the same progressive caucus and want Israel to be a proper leftist country too?
How does shitting on Israeli right and conservative Jews in USA hurt leftist Jews in USA?
Did i miss the moment where US leftist Jews suddenly became huge fans of Israeli hard right?
Why should conservatives enforce leftist vision of the world and its rules? It's leftists who find this kind of policy unacceptable, not the right, this is so many levels of contrarian trolling that it's becoming hard to tell whether someone is supporting the leftist policy out of sincere belief, to make some more or less esoteric point, as plain trolling, or as a scheme to "own the libs/neocons/libertarians/secularists" or some other group on left, right or center.
How does pushing leftist policy on other countries benefit Europe and America or help them shed the leftist idiocy of their own? It's not even Europeans or Americans who will get benefits of Israel potentially practicing that multiculturalism at own loss, it's African "refugees" and Arabs, and normalizing any sort of concessions to such in global media, politics and law is a threat to Europe.
By the way one of notable strategic benefits that cause conservatives to support Israel is that as long as its not taken over by some diverse coalition against Jews, nationalism and ethnostates, it will eat up a very disproportionate to its scale amount of extreme negative attention from said groups and the islamic world.
So @GoldRanger what's going on in Israel right now? I have noticed for the past few days the "Apartheid Israel" and the Antisemite "We subsidize the Jewish Terrorist State" / "Jews have been oppressing us!" crowds have jumped out of the woodwork with a bunch of anti-israeli articles These past few days and I was wondering if there was any particular connection to any events taking place at the moment or if it's an unprovoked upsurge.
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49ersfootball
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This disgusting spewing of anti-Semitism has escalated from some folks on here, who don't like Israel & the Israeli people.
King Arts
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Are you going to say anyone who doesen't kiss Israelis ass is an anti semite now?