Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

[Jormungandr]

This is also going to fuck with global food prices, since a lot of the world's wheat comes from Ukraine.

Yeah, great job, you fucking Russian orcs: piss more countries off, will you?

 

[Zachowon]

Oh my fucking goodness I haven't laughed so hard since Zachowon reply to Aldarion's post about WW2.

Which one?

 

[Zachowon]

Russian Sources Reporting Second Day of Ukrainian Advances in Southern Ukraine.



First Leopard 2 loss in this conflict, likely destroyed due to Russian Artillery Fire which caused an ammunition fire.



Polish-supplied Warmate Loitering Munitions Strike Compilation.



German supplied Ukrainian TRML-4D Radar Linked to an Iris-T Air Defense System Taken out of action by a Lancet Loitering Munitions.



Excalibur Rounds Eliminating a Russian Buk Air Defense Vehicle.



Australia Discussing Sending up to 41 Former RAAF FA-18 Hornets to Ukraine.

Retired RAAF fighter jets could be sent to Ukraine

Australia, the US and Ukraine are discussing sending 41 Royal Australian Air Force F/A-18 Hornets to Kyiv, rather than sending them to the scrapheap as planned.

www.afr.com

The leapord has blowout panels so I doubt the ammunition is what blew up.
We havnt seen a burnt husk yet

 

[Husky_Khan]

Twenty Four Year Old Yaryna Chuchman-Mynio, an architecture student who lost her fiance and father in the first year of this War is now serving in the Ukrainian military as a Lieutenant operating UAV drones.

Ukrainian woman warrior defies despair to carry on the legacy of her beloved men

In the war, warrior Yaryna suffered the loss of her dear father and beloved fiancée, both of whom served in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Determined to confront her grief, she made the decision to enlist in the army and continue defending her homeland. To achieve this, Yaryna completed her...

euromaidanpress.com

Russian DeNazification Efforts in Kherson, Shelling During the Flood Evacuation.



Ukrainian Version of a BMPT. A T-62 Tank Chassis with a BMP-2 Turret with its 30mm Autocannon mounted on it.



Assorted Roof Screen/Cope Cage Media.

Civilian Car utilized by Russian troops in Kherson now enhanced...



The one thing cope cages might be able to protect armored vehicles from... but not in this case.



Fortunately this T-72 can eventually be replaced.

Russians Tank Reserves. T-80BV Tanks Being Removed from Storage and being sent to Repair/Refurbishment Facilities.

 

[Aldarion]

The leapord has blowout panels so I doubt the ammunition is what blew up.
We havnt seen a burnt husk yet

Blowout panels only protect ammunition in the turret, though. Leopard's hull ammunition does not have such protection.

Private Site

historyandwar.org

About that Turk Leopard 2 taking a catastrophic hit and getting ammo racked...

www.snafu-solomon.com

Leopard 2 tanks getting knocked out in Syria

This is blog about the defence against external threats and about the defence of civil liberties.

defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com

 

[Jormungandr]

I really, really hope that she and other frontline women don't get captured by the Russians.

Those fucking orcs, the ones who are "into" this war at any rate, wouldn't be above gang-raping them to death.

This is the ugly truth and why I firmly believe women shouldn't be anywhere near the front lines of any conflict.

 

[Zachowon]

I really, really hope that she and other frontline women don't get captured by the Russians.

Those fucking orcs, the ones who are "into" this war at any rate, wouldn't be above gang-raping them to death.

This is the ugly truth and why I firmly believe women shouldn't be anywhere near the front lines of any conflict.

When your country is being onvaded you don't care who fights.
Every body matters.
And it doesn't matter of theybare military as we have seen, the Russians don't seem to care about who they rape

 

[Zachowon]

Blowout panels only protect ammunition in the turret, though. Leopard's hull ammunition does not have such protection.

Private Site

historyandwar.org

About that Turk Leopard 2 taking a catastrophic hit and getting ammo racked...

www.snafu-solomon.com

Leopard 2 tanks getting knocked out in Syria

This is blog about the defence against external threats and about the defence of civil liberties.

defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com

I forgot the Leapord has hull stored ammunition

 

[paulobrito]

I forgot the Leapord has hull stored ammunition

And the ammo provided is not the most recent DM63 that is inert.

 

[Zachowon]

And the ammo provided is not the most recent DM63 that is inert.

I mean, hull stored ammo is a botch to deal woth, if theybonly had the turret ammo it would be fine

 

[Buba]

When your country is being onvaded you don't care who fights.

Seems appropriate:

 

[Aldarion]

I forgot the Leapord has hull stored ammunition

M1 Abrams also has hull-stored ammunition, but only 6 rounds so they usually deploy without it.

 

[Zachowon]

M1 Abrams also has hull-stored ammunition, but only 6 rounds so they usually deploy without it.

Most Abrams never use the hull stowage

 

[AnimalNoodles]

A lot of OSINT accounts (as well as Russians) and the like are assuming we're several days into some sort of more major Ukrainian Counteroffensive, if anyone is curious.

With that said, apparently conducting assaults across mined open terrain, under UAV observation and artillery fire against prepared defenses upwards of twenty kilometers deep, will actually result in casualties, vehicular and otherwise, in case anyone was in denial about that.

This media is curated mostly from Russian media in reference to attacks made roughly three days ago.

A formation called the 47th Mechanized Brigade equipped with Western vehicles had at least one Leopard 2A6 and several Bradley's damaged during an offensive near Orikhiv in the Zaporizhzhia Oblast.





Another Offensive Which Has Competing claims of Ukrainian Advances and Russian Counterattacks. Video from Russian sources.



Meanwhile near Bakhmut Ukrainian Forces Pushed Back Russian Motorized Infantry Troops and Storm Z Units (Russian Penal Units) and apparently found some Soviet Union themed paraphernalia amongst the dead and captured.



Another Leopard 2A4 Tank suffered from a damaged track a few days ago though the crew survived and the vehicle apparently repairable.

all that, the Ukrainians havent even reached the first major line of defenses.

 

[paulobrito]

Trying to advance when the other side has superiority in arty and air force - and now as good intel tanks to tons of very cheap drones with cameras is very costly, to say the least.

 

[LordsFire]

all that, the Ukrainians havent even reached the first major line of defenses.

How does it compare to the rate of Russian advance in Bakhmut?

 

[Husky_Khan]

all that, the Ukrainians havent even reached the first major line of defenses.

Actually based solely on Russian sources some OSINT accounts are pointing out it might've actually overrun the first line of Russian defenses.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

How does it compare to the rate of Russian advance in Bakhmut?

You mean the successful urban campaign where the outnumbered attackers captured a heavily fortified city while inflicting disproportionate casualties on the defenders? Not well at all.

 

[Zachowon]

Trying to advance when the other side has superiority in arty and air force - and now as good intel tanks to tons of very cheap drones with cameras is very costly, to say the least.

You mean thr air force that hasn't been flying?
Because this is basically a war woth little to no aircraft fighting anymore mostly just ground warfare and drones

 

[Marduk]

You mean the successful urban campaign where the outnumbered attackers captured a heavily fortified city while inflicting disproportionate casualties on the defenders? Not well at all.

>outnumbered attackers
>disproportionate casualties
This is against everything basic military doctrine says would happen, against everything we heard from that place and events surrounding it, and against all common sense, it's something so unthinkable only propaganda for idiots would dare say it seriously.

No, overwhelming numbers of low quality conscript infantry were thrown at outnumbered fortified light infantry which was withdrawing slowly and inflicting disproportionate casualties on the attackers, exactly as basic art of war says things happen in such situations.