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Guess that means he just lost the support of the hawks which means he has pretty much no allies left.
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Guess that means he just lost the support of the hawks which means he has pretty much no allies left.
Robovski
Well-known member
To be fair, it's not a bluff then. But there is a difference between I have a bad pair and I have complete garbage (like Biden).
To call it a bluff would imply it was ever a realistic scenario.
The only people who have been cheering for us to put boots on the ground in Ukraine are warhawks looking for another foreign adventure to help justify DoD budgets.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
I'm starting to believe that his handlers don't even have an over-arching plan that they're trying to stick to; they're just reacting to situations without thinking about what they're doing.
Terthna
Professional Lurker
I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse about the 2020 election fraud; because while it makes them look far less invincible going forward, the fact that they still managed to pull it off when they've demonstrated this level of incompetence and short-sightedness doesn't say good things about the rest of America.
they put in maximum effort spent millions of dollars the essentally almost broke themselves doing it all to earn a poisoned chalice election.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
The thing is, a lot of people really did not think that the Democrats were morally capable of that kind of systemic cheating. A lot of people just didn't want to think there could be that level of evil happening in their nation. This sharply limited both how much preventative preparation was made regarding election fraud, and how many people were willing to believe it initially.
That tide has steadily been shifting over the last year, and it's likely to keep doing so.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
Pretty much the entire election system in the USA is broken because of that blind belief on the integrity of people. There is a reason Brazil and India, both 3rd world countries, have much better systems: They made the entire thing with the assumption any slight hole would be abused to hell and back. And so they got some of the best OpSec in the world.
Here in Brazil our election machines all come from the government itself, no 3rd party bullshit. They are all regularly tested and hackers told to break in and report how the withstand the damage. Everyone has a Voter ID, and if you cannot get one the government will find a way to give you one by doing drives and stuff. They will literally send canoes up rives in the Amazon with army people to help so remote as fuck native tribes who are citizens can vote on the same machines the city people vote on and get the results back in time.
Here in Brazil our election machines all come from the government itself, no 3rd party bullshit. They are all regularly tested and hackers told to break in and report how the withstand the damage. Everyone has a Voter ID, and if you cannot get one the government will find a way to give you one by doing drives and stuff. They will literally send canoes up rives in the Amazon with army people to help so remote as fuck native tribes who are citizens can vote on the same machines the city people vote on and get the results back in time.
Not wrong.
gral
Well-known member
I definitely don't consider Brazilian OpSec regarding elections as good, especially given Electoral Justice's standard official answer to public questions regarding the safety of voting machines is 'you're talking crap, the machines are safe' in officialese, without addressing the complaints technically. I'd rather we stayed at paper voting than gone for our electronic voting machines.
That being said, Brazilian voter ID system is good, although it wouldn't work in the US, given it's a national central roster.
Also, they have to go to the most out-of-reach places in Brazil to get the voters because voting in Brazil is, in spite of being presented as a right, a civic duty. Try getting a passport or becoming a civil servant if your voting obligations haven't been fulfilled - you won't be able to. Since Brazilians are required to vote, the Brazilian State is also required to provide access to voting.
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prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
The crowd that crowed about how unprofessional the mean tweets from the last guy were is in critical condition today because of it.
Or, at least, they would be, if they had a thimble of honesty in their objections. Which they don't.
Personally, I think it's a little funny and probly a little true (journalists, especially hostile ones, are not known for their respectability). I spent too long and too often during the Trump years sighing dejectedly and rolling my eyes at a politician acting true to their asshole-self and saying/writing insults. The stuff's been with us since the birth of the Republic, it's nothing new. Would it be preferable if elected officials had the modicum of self-control children are expected to hold? Yes. But at this point the hypocritical condemnation of it is more threatening than the presence of rudeness.
49ersfootball
Well-known member
It's quite obvious Uncle Joe is triggered.
Putin probably watched this over at the Kremlin & busted out laughing his ass off.
Do I strike you as a warhawk?
I don't know, are you?
Terthna
Professional Lurker
Fair enough; but what other options do they have at this point? The Donbass and Crimea regions will never accept the rule of those currently in power in Kiev, who's international backers have since gotten cold feet after it became obvious that Russia wasn't nearly as much of a pushover as they assumed when they first supported the coup (and that America has clearly become far weaker).
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
This is perfectly sensible. Giving Russia a free hand in Ukraine is geopolitical suicide because, alongside endangering Eastern Europe, you've all but invited the Chinese to invade Taiwan.
That is what I am getting at.
People think "We have reason to defend Taiwan, not Ukraine"
It sure doesn't seem like it