Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Those aesthetics are closer to the true soul of Fallout than anything Bethesda has spat out.
Well you could have it like Halo Wars.I don't think a fallout RTS would be any good, actually. Aside from the fact that every campaign would end with "and then the bombs dropped, killing you and rendering all your prior actions pointless", I think a lot of what makes fallout distinctive would be lost if you zoomed out to that scale.
I feel like the most likely result would be some weird, Dawn of War 1 type game, but with a lot less distinction between factions. And I don't know how interesting that would be as a game, vs as just another fallout brand thing.
I don't think a fallout RTS would be any good, actually. Aside from the fact that every campaign would end with "and then the bombs dropped, killing you and rendering all your prior actions pointless", I think a lot of what makes fallout distinctive would be lost if you zoomed out to that scale.
I feel like the most likely result would be some weird, Dawn of War 1 type game, but with a lot less distinction between factions. And I don't know how interesting that would be as a game, vs as just another fallout brand thing.
ngl, the shitstorms and fights over which Campaign (USA! USA! USA! or GLORIOUS CHINESE COMMUNISM *in an obnoxious chinese accent*) is canon, who's actually to blame for the first bombs to drop, or whetever the secret Alien missions are part of the setting or just a gag would be hilarious to witness. Especially if you include a post-credits scene that "hints" at a Fallout set in China or whatever.Well you could have it like Halo Wars.
We knew how the war ended but it was still fun and could still make a difference, like fighting Zetans or other factions to give further background in the setting.
I'd personally put it like HW1 style rts and include all the fusion vehicles and weapons we didn't get to see in prime.
Heck maybe include actual modern esque aircraft
Well you could have it like Halo Wars.
We knew how the war ended but it was still fun and could still make a difference, like fighting Zetans or other factions to give further background in the setting.
I'd personally put it like HW1 style rts and include all the fusion vehicles and weapons we didn't get to see in prime.
Heck maybe include actual modern esque aircraft
How many robotics were just fine into Fallout 4? And what makes you think any military has any vehicle that isn't NBC-capable by the Great War? Cost to field vehicles "should" gradually escalate as supplies to maintain in active use are depleted, not a switch flipped and suddenly all your tanks go dead.A post-apoc RTS is worse, because unit variety will plummet, you're going to basically just have dudes with rifles for everything
The "New California Republic" and "Caeser's Legion" simply haven't gotten around to remotorizing yet, while the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel don't really need much vehicular variety because Power Armor delivered by Vertibirds is sufficient for 95% or more of Wasteland deployments, so it's hard to justify paying for more situational production lines.yes, vehicles could be added, but then you get the "hey, where were the NCR's tanks back at the Dam?" issue
Take a look at how 40k does it. Mostly varieties of infantry squads as the "general use" units with some vehicles frequently deployed individually mixed in for more specific cases, for most factions, and everyone has mind-numbingly over-the-top bullshit waiting in the wings worth a significant chunk of a typical deployment on its own (oh hai Liberty Prime).If you're going to force that basic, you might as well shrink it down to a sqaud based game so you can at least have differentiation between soldiers.
Grorious chireese cromurism *ngl, the shitstorms and fights over which Campaign (USA! USA! USA! or GLORIOUS CHINESE COMMUNISM *in an obnoxious chinese accent*) is canon, who's actually to blame for the first bombs to drop, or whetever the secret Alien missions are part of the setting or just a gag would be hilarious to witness. Especially if you include a post-credits scene that "hints" at a Fallout set in China or whatever.
How many robotics were just fine into Fallout 4? And what makes you think any military has any vehicle that isn't NBC-capable by the Great War? Cost to field vehicles "should" gradually escalate as supplies to maintain in active use are depleted, not a switch flipped and suddenly all your tanks go dead.
The "New California Republic" and "Caeser's Legion" simply haven't gotten around to remotorizing yet, while the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel don't really need much vehicular variety because Power Armor delivered by Vertibirds is sufficient for 95% or more of Wasteland deployments, so it's hard to justify paying for more situational production lines.
Take a look at how 40k does it. Mostly varieties of infantry squads as the "general use" units with some vehicles frequently deployed individually mixed in for more specific cases, for most factions,
and everyone has mind-numbingly over-the-top bullshit waiting in the wings worth a significant chunk of a typical deployment on its own (oh hai Liberty Prime).
The problem is that most robots are either inferior to or on par with dudes with rifles. Sentry bots and assaultrons are really the only two that are significantly different.
With the New Plague, active use of tactical nukes in the Alaskan conflict, and ideological differences grown to Nonstop Crimes Against Humanity, NBC threats are a lot more pressing than today, and the tech is rather broadly absurd for this to be a trivial investment.And I would wager most vehicles in the great war era were not NBC sealed
The ones that did not do particularly much to shut down the consumer-grade Mister Handy models, who have military variants? The ones that never seem to compromise power armor on public display? The ones that have a token effort compared to the realistic involved in onlining a bomber run in New Vagas? The ones that slowly kick in over time?The core issue is hundreds of years without maintenance, lack of fuel, and lack of spare parts.
It addresses the issue of the Mohave Wasteland case you brought up in particular. A different location having better logistical situations and focusing on a much earlier point where there are more resources to scavenge and less has broken down from overuse and the elements (not that the latter has a rat's ass given to it in this franchise) easily justifies a tour of vehicle efforts.I don't think that really address the issue?
NCR doesn't exist yet, because they were founded in 2186? Are you missing the "mostly immediate before and after" part?And the problem is that in fallout only the Brotherhood has a superweapon like that. What's the NCR's answer to Liberty Prime?
Only if you have the blinders on to hyperfocus on the "faces" of the franchise. The Master's Army starts up rather quickly, and given the showings in 4 and 76 the Chinese could have visible forces, even if not "massed" to a bulk conquest.A fallout game would be like if 40k had just IG and space marines. That's not really something you can scale up to army scale.
With the New Plague, active use of tactical nukes in the Alaskan conflict, and ideological differences grown to Nonstop Crimes Against Humanity, NBC threats are a lot more pressing than today, and the tech is rather broadly absurd for this to be a trivial investment.
NCR doesn't exist yet, because they were founded in 2186? Are you missing the "mostly immediate before and after" part?
Only if you have the blinders on to hyperfocus on the "faces" of the franchise. The Master's Army starts up rather quickly, and given the showings in 4 and 76 the Chinese could have visible forces, even if not "massed" to a bulk conquest.
Lore wise even a protectron can easily vaporize a person with a single shot.
Fanmade not canon, but basically just what you requested.I want a Fallout RTS that takes place During the Great War.