Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[Bacle]

Basically, the Palestinians originated as cast-offs from other countries' populations; they're false inheritors, and their claims that the land belonged to them are lies.

However, time has basically forged these cast-offs into their own cultural identity/group in the current day, even if their founding were all based on lies.

Unfortunately for the world at large, that cultural identity/group are batshit insane, inbred religious fundamentalists ultimately driven by falsehoods and deception.

Egypt could solve a lot of these issues very fast if they made a deal for joint contol of Gaza with the West Bank with Jordan and Israel, and I expect most in the West would welcome it.

Egypt needs to stop trying to pretend this isn't partly it's fault, after Israel gave back the Sinai with the understanding Egypt wouldn't allow Islamists to smuggle shit over Israel's new border.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Anti-establishment, not staunch right wing or conservative ones. Center or center right at most.

You consider PiS party socialist so it's not like you have a good metric of what right wing is short of Falanga, and even them you would call socialist.

That's not a conservative YT channel. At all. That's a progressive and a cucked conservative's channel.

I am pretty sure that's a conservative one...by my Italian and Brazilian standards. Cucked exactly how?

Basically, the Palestinians originated as cast-offs from other countries' populations; they're false inheritors, and their claims that the land belonged to them are lies.

However, time has basically forged these cast-offs into their own cultural identity/group in the current day, even if their founding were all based on lies.

Unfortunately for the world at large, that cultural identity/group are batshit insane, inbred religious fundamentalists ultimately driven by falsehoods and deception.

This can be applied...pretty much everywhere if we use this logic. The same thing could be said about any culture from Canada to Chile, from there to Vladivostok and back.

By this logic, most Israelis could be there.

 

[Abhorsen]

I am pretty sure that's a conservative one...by my Italian and Brazilian standards. Cucked exactly how?

Basically it's a 'conservative' and an actual progressive who host the show, but the progressive constantly brow beats the conservative into basically agreeing with her, and all of his points are consistently wrong about everything. He's especially bad on the economy.

That's what it was when I last watched it, I kinda stopped eventually.

 

[Jormungandr]

You consider PiS party socialist so it's not like you have a good metric of what right wing is short of Falanga, and even them you would call socialist.

I am pretty sure that's a conservative one...by my Italian and Brazilian standards. Cucked exactly how?

This can be applied...pretty much everywhere if we use this logic. The same thing could be said about any culture from Canada to Chile, from there to Vladivostok and back.

By this logic, most Israelis could be there.

The Palestinian "people" are very recent --as in 'living memory' recent-- but unlike other groups and nationalities which, as you've said, are formed in much the same way over time (for example, the English came from France, Normandy, Scandinavia, Germany/the Anglo-Saxons, et cetera), the fundamentalist Palestinians were founded on, developed around, and are rabidly driven by a confirmed lie because of their origins (being cast-offs from other nations).

Their claims are bullshit, and they're basically trying to be thieves to a land and legacy not their own.

 

[Marduk]

You consider PiS party socialist so it's not like you have a good metric of what right wing is short of Falanga, and even them you would call socialist.

How does being socially conservative make someone's socialist party like economic policy no longer socialist?
Was the Ceausescu regime not socialist despite being Soviet aligned and as socialist economically as the rest of eastern block just because it was socially conservative?
This way lies the insanity of calling the Soviet Union right wing because it didn't have pride month, trans rights and affirmative action for people of color. Which is something that some far left people actually do, but i hope you wouldn't want to do that.

Egypt could solve a lot of these issues very fast if they made a deal for joint contol of Gaza with the West Bank with Jordan and Israel, and I expect most in the West would welcome it.

Egypt needs to stop trying to pretend this isn't partly it's fault, after Israel gave back the Sinai with the understanding Egypt wouldn't allow Islamists to smuggle shit over Israel's new border.

Could. If it wanted to. However the current government has openly said it wants nothing to do with this mess. Egypt is struggling with controlling Sinai too.

https://carnegieendowment.org/sada/82218

Egypt plans to resettle millions in Sinai amid anti-terrorism operations

Egypt announced a plan to attract 3 million Egyptians with the aim of resettling them in the Sinai Peninsula, as part of a more comprehensive plan to reconstruct Sinai and fight terrorism.

www.al-monitor.com

At the same time this explains why - they already have a problem with Egyptians in that region being a bit too spicy religion wise, and so they would wish to move some more reasonable people in that region to make funny business harder to do without the police finding out. However, joining Gaza with its population would have a major opposite effect.

 

[mrttao]

Yeah you forget that not all Israeli have been on board on this or at least not the way it has been conducted.
You entered a room with two Israeli, regardless of sex or age, and you are going to have 7 opinions each with own clauses and variations.
Some countries hold grudges for almost a century : see Poland everytime the EU wanted to do something and it said "WW2". Or Turks who still can't politically recognize the genocide (even though a larger number of the new generations disagree) and so on.
Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats in Bosnia still hold a grudge against each other for what happened 30 years ago. Some Hutus that fled Rwanda after committing the genocide are still of the same opinion of their fathers or grandfathers and the Tutsi are forgiving as long as they don't pull another one and Kagame stays President.
20 years is an optimistic scenario. Not everybody is Henry Kissinger. Not everyone, be politician or regular folks can be a Bismarckian cold-blooded prostitute like Boris Johnson.

Israel has lost the optics war, it looks bad even to people on the in Europe and the West (see Candance Owens, Carlson and even Alex Jones. Even here, a notorious and well known conservative YT channel, they are criticizing and asking questions about Israel :

So, are you guys volunteering to take the Palestinians into your own country instead?

 

[Jormungandr]

So, are you guys volunteering to take the Palestinians into your own country instead?

Every time the Palestinians have a large enough "minority" in a host country, they cause problems. We've seen this in the past when Jordan and Lebanon took them in, and then the fuckers tried to stage a coup in each country.

Even now in the West they're causing problems, but I blame out leadership being fucking gutless as half the problem -- see London where they had Palestinian flags draped over our monuments, and thousands of them and brain-dead Liberals marching hand in hand with them, chanting a slogan they have no idea what the fuck it actually means.

Oh, and let's not forget them driving around in cars, and with loudspeakers basically chanting actual hate speech like "death to all Jews", and our police just sitting back and doing nothing (until a White guy said "fuck off" to them, and then he was the one arrested for racism).

Additionally, when locals who are supposed to be sympathetic to them in countries like Egypt basically pull you aside and say, "don't trust them, they nothing but trouble", you know shit is fucked.

 

[Captain X]

Are there any barely habitable islands that aren't currently inhabited by anyone that these people could be dumped off on?

 

[Cherico]

Are there any barely habitable islands that aren't currently inhabited by anyone that these people could be dumped off on?

 

[Captain X]

I was thinking maybe some island that might have been a whaling station back in the 19th century or something like that. Like South Georgia Island. Hundreds of miles away from the nearest land.

 

[DarthOne]

I was thinking maybe some island that might have been a whaling station back in the 19th century or something like that. Like South Georgia Island. Hundreds of miles away from the nearest land.

But would they be able to support themselves? Or would we spend the rest of eternity feeding them?

 

[Marduk]

Even now in the West they're causing problems, but I blame out leadership being fucking gutless as half the problem -- see London where they had Palestinian flags draped over our monuments, and thousands of them and brain-dead Liberals marching hand in hand with them, chanting a slogan they have no idea what the fuck it actually means.

Oh, and let's not forget them driving around in cars, and with loudspeakers basically chanting actual hate speech like "death to all Jews", and our police just sitting back and doing nothing (until a White guy said "fuck off" to them, and then he was the one arrested for racism).

I think most of that is not even Palestinians, just assorted radical Muslims from all over the world.

 

[Jormungandr]

I think most of that is not even Palestinians, just assorted radical Muslims from all over the world.

While true, most Palestinians are basically indoctrinated from the cradle up to be "radical".

Again, they're rabid fundamentalists to a lie.

 

[Rocinante]

Basically it's a 'conservative' and an actual progressive who host the show, but the progressive constantly brow beats the conservative into basically agreeing with her, and all of his points are consistently wrong about everything. He's especially bad on the economy.

That's what it was when I last watched it, I kinda stopped eventually.

Breaking Points used to be really good.

But yeah, these days, saagar is a pussy and Krystal walks all over him. SHE is just fucking insufferable. She'll interrupt and "correct" and challenge him all the time but he doesn't do the same. He always bends to her will also.

Either he's a pussy, or the conservative thing is all just an act.

I used to respect Krystal because she was more willing to call out the left than most left wingers. But before I stopped watching, it seemed that most of her complaints were that the left wingers she's calling out aren't left wing enough. She's so fucking annoying.

 

[Marduk]

While true, most Palestinians are basically indoctrinated from the cradle up to be "radical".

Again, they're rabid fundamentalists to a lie.

Not just them, that's the problem. You can have Muslims from Michigan or London, who were born there, and are of Pakistani or Somali descent, yet still are absolutely mad about Palestinians not winning. It's truly an international cause for them, in a way nothing in western world was since the crusades.

 

[Jormungandr]

Not just them, that's the problem. You can have Muslims from Michigan or London, who were born there, and are of Pakistani or Somali descent, yet still are absolutely mad about Palestinians not winning. It's truly an international cause for them, in a way nothing in western world was since the crusades.

This is also true, but the Palestinians are very open about it (if not proud), and there has been evidence (especially audio and visual examples) going back decades that they happily indoctrinate and use their children as shields, swords, and pawns "for the cause".

Palestinians are just not trustworthy, and they've repeatedly shown themselves to be the worst of the worst of Muslim stereotypes to even other Muslims to the point where they're viewed as cats' paws, and disposable ones at that.

 

[Marduk]

This is also true, but the Palestinians are very open about it (if not proud), and there has been evidence (especially audio and visual examples) going back decades that they happily indoctrinate and use their children as shields, swords, and pawns "for the cause".

Palestinians are just not trustworthy, and they've repeatedly shown themselves to be the worst of the worst of Muslim stereotypes to even other Muslims to the point where they're viewed as cats' paws, and disposable ones at that.

And that's the only thing their supporters trust them to do - while they don't need them for anything else anyway, as there's more warm bodies in the Islamic world than they know what to do with, few millions this or that way, ultimately they don't care, but they are willing to pretend in front of infidels if it gets them a favor or few from the useful idiots.

 

[King Arts]

Not just them, that's the problem. You can have Muslims from Michigan or London, who were born there, and are of Pakistani or Somali descent, yet still are absolutely mad about Palestinians not winning. It's truly an international cause for them, in a way nothing in western world was since the crusades.

I mean it’s not like many “conservatives” and neocons aren’t also internationalists. I mean a true nationalist only really cares about their nation and most of the people simping for Israel are not Israeli. There are sadly few people in this conflict who actually stay neutral and don’t support one side over another.

 

[Zachowon]

I'm not a neocon, I just know war is what thrives the US government

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Breaking Points used to be really good.

Yup, I followed and watched bit, but it's just gotten to be average Leftist crap now.