Right... I see we have a serious difference of opinion here and we're clearly never going to agree, so let me ask you this. Is there anything Trump could do that would make Impeachment legitimate, or was he right when he said about his supporters "I could go into the middle of the street and kill someone with a gun and they'd still back me."
Because I don't doubt for a minute that if Obama had done even half of the corrupt and illegal things that Trump has done, then the Republicans would have impeached him already and many Democrats and their supporters would have agreed with it.
Trump's offenses thus far:
1. Being a jerk. Legitimate criticism, he can be a jerk.
2. Violating political correctness. This is a positive, not a negative.
3. Spending too much money. Serious problem, I'd like him to tone that down.
Trump's offenses according to the media:
1. Being a Russian puppet. Disproven.
2. Being a racist. Disproven.
3. Violating political correctness. Again, a positive, not a negative.
4. Beating Hillary Clinton. Positive, not a negative.
5. Supposed corruption with Ukraine dealings now. Disproven.
What would it take him doing for me to support impeachment? Any one of the following would do:
1. Actually being an agent of a foreign power.
2. Actually commit rape.
3. Massive, gross corruption.
Also, if he became authoritarian, that's not impeachable in and of itself, but I certainly wouldn't vote for him in 2020. I'm sure there's a few more, but they aren't coming to me off the top of my head.
Things that Obame
did do, that he has never been held accountable for:
1. Lie about Obamacare. You don't get to keep your doctor, and it drove prices way up, instead of down by 2500 dollars per year.
2. Lied about Ben-Ghazi. This was a blatant lie to the general public of America, transparently because it was in the lead-up to the elections, and it's
known that he lied.
3. The Fast and the Furious. His government ran a program that smuggled guns to Mexican criminal cartels. Why it happened in the first place has never been explained, but it is a known fact that there is at least one instance of said weapons being used to kill American citizens, much less what happened across the border with them.
4. Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal. The IRS under his administration blatantly and aggressively discriminated against conservative political organizations, particularly the Tea Party movement, and last I checked, some people being put on paid 'administrative leave' (vacation) is the most serious consequence faced.
5. Title IX memorandum. The kangaroo-courts in universities across America, and part of the general perversion of justice regarding accusations of sexual harassment or assault in large part were the result of a message his administration sent out to basically every college/university campus in the nation. This isn't rising to the level of impeachable, but it's still some serious BS.
Things Hillary Clinton did:
1. Also lied about Ben Ghazi, as Secretary of State rather than President.
2. Explicitly ordered classified information handled in ways that violate security procedure while Secretary of State. As Secretary of State, that was not something she had the authority to do. This also ties into:
3. The E-mail server scandal. By Federal statute, what she did in violation of handling government documents, especially once she left the State Department, made her
legally ineligible for ever holding Federal Office again. Including
elected office. This is whether it was done maliciously or negligently. She broke the rules, and she should have paid the price.
4. Helped cover up her husband's sexual misconduct throughout his entire career, something which almost certainly rose to the level of outright criminal rather than just shady and immoral behavior during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, but we'll likely never know because the Dems refused to impeach Bill, even though he'd been held in contempt of court, and is
known to have solicited others to help him obstruct justice in covering up what he did.
So yeah. I don't like the fact that Trump has something of a history of a womanizer. I don't like the fact that he's a jerk. But every nice guy that the Republicans nominated, the Democrats lied about and ran smear jobs on until they could run them out of town. Trump will punch back just as hard, and his insults against Democrat politicians tend to have the virtue of actually being true.
I'd rather have had another Ronald Reagan, who could rhetorically destroy his opponent with grace and tact, but we've got Trump instead, and since he fights, he's the one that gets to stay in the ring.
