Impeachment

[Deleted member]

Regardless, it's still a very bad look for him; as well as the Democrats as a whole, considering what they're trying to accuse Trump of.

I am not disputing that. I think impeachment is a disaster for the dems because it discredits Biden and makes it look like the entire thing was cooked up to protect Biden, who I think is Trump's most dangerous opponent.

 

[Vaermina]

I am not disputing that. I think impeachment is a disaster for the dems because it discredits Biden and makes it look like the entire thing was cooked up to protect Biden, who I think is Trump's most dangerous opponent.

You aren't wrong, it's basically a contest between Biden and Warren at this point.

And Warren's a disaster waiting to happen with the way she built her career on misrepresenting herself.

 

[Cherico]

You aren't wrong, it's basically a contest between Biden and Warren at this point.

And Warren's a disaster waiting to happen with the way she built her career on misrepresenting herself.

Warren comes with a built in enemy who will be incredibly dedicated to fucking her over.

Native americans, seriously a lot of them feel that she used them and they want payback. So if she runs for president expect the reservations to become very politically active.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Warren comes with a built in enemy who will be incredibly dedicated to fucking her over.

Native americans, seriously a lot of them feel that she used them and they want payback. So if she runs for president expect the reservations to become very politically active.

I wouldn't count on any serious pushback from native Americans, they've been so heavily demoralized I don't know if there's anything that could change things.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I wouldn't count on any serious pushback from native Americans, they've been so heavily demoralized I don't know if there's anything that could change things.

Would be amazing tho, if President Trump manages to convince then that yes, their votes count too!

 

[Captain X]

Natives almost always vote Democrat on the national level when they vote. If you ever look at an election map, see if you can find a US map with the reservations on them and you'll see a lot of the blue counties in red states are reservations.

 

[Doomsought]

Natives almost always vote Democrat on the national level when they vote. If you ever look at an election map, see if you can find a US map with the reservations on them and you'll see a lot of the blue counties in red states are reservations.

They also sided with the south during the US civil war.

 

[FriedCFour]

They also sided with the south during the US civil war.

Some did and others didn't. They fought on both sides.

 

[S'task]

They also sided with the south during the US civil war.

OK, and? What does that have to do with anything.

Also, there was a lot of background reasons for that, I think we can excuse the tribes for siding with a rebels against a government that had foisted the Trail of Tears on them, an event that had STARTED just 30 years prior to the US Civil War and ENDED a mere TEN YEARS prior.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Warren comes with a built in enemy who will be incredibly dedicated to fucking her over.

Native americans, seriously a lot of them feel that she used them and they want payback. So if she runs for president expect the reservations to become very politically active.

I thought Elizabeth Warren's built in, dedicated enemy was Elizabeth Warren. I mean, subconscious self-sabotage is the only answer I can come up with for that DNA test disaster.


Native Americans, on the other hand...not really. Like, I'm sure some of them care a great deal about this, but I'm sure plenty don't, and even as a united bloc, thier voting and political power is negligible.

 

[FriedCFour]

OK, and? What does that have to do with anything.

Also, there was a lot of background reasons for that, I think we can excuse the tribes for siding with a rebels against a government that had foisted the Trail of Tears on them, an event that had STARTED just 30 years prior to the US Civil War and ENDED a mere TEN YEARS prior.

Even then the cherokee had a civil war of which side they supported as just one example. The most famous Native Americans of the war would be Colonel Parker and Stand Watie who fought for the Union and Confederacy respectively. There was no native americans as an identity either, thats a very recent thing. Even the Indian wars saw very large numbers of Native Americans fighting on the side of the united states.

 

[Captain X]

Usually utilized as scouts and trackers, yes. The Lakota and Crow were not real big fans of each other to begin with, so you can imagine the Crow working with the white soldiers made them that much lower in their eyes.

 

[mymatedave10]

Trump has claimed that he has the right to ask foreign governments to investigate his opponents, I’m not very familiar with US law, but isn’t that illegal? He’s also asked the Chinese government to look into Biden as well.

Even if you’re his biggest fan, you can see why this looks bad for him, right?

 

[FriedCFour]

Usually utilized as scouts and trackers, yes. The Lakota and Crow were not real big fans of each other to begin with, so you can imagine the Crow working with the white soldiers made them that much lower in their eyes.

Indian scouts weren't actually scouts in a sense of heres one guy attached to a unit. They were often used as full on guerilla or shock troops in units composed entirely of natives. Indian Scouts seems like its just a few guys but it was actually tribes worth of soldiers.

 

[Isem]

Trump has claimed that he has the right to ask foreign governments to investigate his opponents, I’m not very familiar with US law, but isn’t that illegal? He’s also asked the Chinese government to look into Biden as well.

Even if you’re his biggest fan, you can see why this looks bad for him, right?

From what I'm aware he's said he has the right to ask other countries to investigate corruption. As far as I'm aware countries can ask each other to help investigate corruption. The only issue is that the alleged corruption in this case is from someone whose trying to run against him but at that point you've just made running for office blanket immunity to prosecution. So pick your poison really.

 

[FriedCFour]

Trump has claimed that he has the right to ask foreign governments to investigate his opponents, I’m not very familiar with US law, but isn’t that illegal? He’s also asked the Chinese government to look into Biden as well.

Even if you’re his biggest fan, you can see why this looks bad for him, right?

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton.

www.politico.com

If Clinton and the DNC has the right, well, so does he. As much as people want it to be so, you don't get to do exactly what you claim is impeachable and treason for someone else and recieve no backlash when you do it. That's to say nothing of the myriad of countries who weighed in support of Clinton in so many fucking articles about how they won't back Trump or let him into the country. Wonder how much that was just totally unprompted for the EUs leaders to weigh in on our election.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

Trump has claimed that he has the right to ask foreign governments to investigate his opponents, I’m not very familiar with US law, but isn’t that illegal? He’s also asked the Chinese government to look into Biden as well.

Even if you’re his biggest fan, you can see why this looks bad for him, right?

So you're just never going to respond to any of the people that took the time to engage with you, then.

 

[mymatedave10]

So you're just never going to respond to any of the people that took the time to engage with you, then.

I was asked to respond with example of his crimes, then immediately told that the only examples that would count would be:

Provide hard, court quality proof, not hearsay or rumors spread by a media that hates Trump.

And seeing as he declared any media that questions him is "fake news" and "enemy of the american people," it pretty much removes any media that isn't Fox News or it's imitators. But if you'll forgive a video posting from someone far more qualified than myself, here's an actual lawyer talking in the first vid about the whistleblower and the second is about hearsay. This is all from a legal point of view, apologies for the length and I don't know if you'll accept him as a legitmate source.

 

[FriedCFour]

This is all from a legal point of view, apologies for the length and I don't know if you'll accept him as a legitmate source.

Can you summarize his points and evidence? I'm not going to spend an hour of my time just so I can respond to you.

 

[ShadowsOfParadox]

Can you summarize his points and evidence? I'm not going to spend an hour of my time just so I can respond to you.

the hearsay vid is, fine... the first one says "This transcript is as bad as Watergate and I have no idea how anyone could ever possibly claim anything else."

Basically the hearsay one is "well yes it is hearsay but legally speaking hearsay can be evidence under a lot of conditions and hey, if their best argument is 'it's hearsay' then clearly they know they are in the wrong"

Legal Eagle is pretty fun to watch... right up until he starts talking politics and then the left wing bias is blatant and kind of absurd. Like, my summation of the first vid is basically a direct quote.