Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
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Chiron
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Man nopes out after a close call.
If the UkA is as organized as the FSA is, they could hold out in Mariupol for years using tunnels. But I doubt they have the extensive smuggling tunnel networks plus victory gardens to do so. So best case scenario if they really rough it out is a month provided they have drinking water.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
The corruption amongst besieging forces was even greater factor than the tunnels. Though I guess the Mauripol garrison could trade civilians for supplies. However the Russians don't seem to be intending to starve them out, but take the city by methodical attack.
strunkenwhite
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In this case, though, the corner is their own goddamned borders.
Fighting in defence of Kiev,against russian consprict with Kadyrow thugs acting as NKWD squad killing everybody who do not want die gor Putin?
You knew,they have good chances holding as long as they still have ammo.
Of course,KGBstan finally would capture ruins of Kiev - but,when it fulfill Putin goal of bleeding russian army,it would not help Russia.Well,if Putin cared about Russia,he would not blown up russians in 1999.
That's not survived... That airframe will never fly again...
The engine can be replaced, the control surfaces can be replaced, the metal skin can be replaced.
A-10s have suffered similar damage and were returned to service after extensive repairs.
That's not unrepairable . . . That one is going to have a meltdown when he/she sees that plane flying again the next month . . .
You might want to watch the actual video linked...
Because I was talking about how the actual internal frame is heavily damaged... You can't fix that...
Good no BS assessment of what's going on.
Thread Pruning Mark ELEVEN?!?!
Removed almost seventy posts rehashing what has been talked about in a combined three thousand posts worth of threads already. If y'all wanna act like Donb Asses, there's threads for bickering about the leadup to the War... again. As before, and I've been pretty lenient, derails like this can lead to threadbans if only to keep this thread focused on the news of the conflict itself, not the constant back and forth about the causes, tangents, sources, personal commentary or other interpersonal drama.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
From what I heard, Mariupol main road has fallen and civilians are evacuating, around 4k dead amongst civilians according to the mayor, from dehydration(?), fighting, and shock from bombardment (???), regular units are starting to surrender, Azov aren’t, and they aren’t offered anwyways.
It's like the circle of life...
Looks like the stories about the Russians seizing foreign assets and arresting business leaders who disagreed with Russian policy are denied by the Russian government.
Ukrainians apparently lost another S-300 system. This one in Mykolaiv. These are the real Ghosts of Kyiv... with the exception of at least three of them being lost or whatever I guess...
Lotta troops pulling occupation duty in Melitopol. Though it could just be certain areas of course. Still likely cuts down on problematic silliness like silly people thinking about random sniping or chucking molotov cocktails at anything. AND FREEDOM!
It looks like a significant fraction of the mighty Ukrainian Navy has been seized in the Port of Berdyansk on the Sea of Azov. How the Ukrainian Navy will recover from this blow... who knows?
According to the comments we got an armed Tug and some Soviet-era patrol boats in near mint condition... *coughs* All gun armed. None of those cool supersonic mega antiship missiles the Russians/Soviets have/had.
Looks like the stories about the Russians seizing foreign assets and arresting business leaders who disagreed with Russian policy are denied by the Russian government.
Ukrainians apparently lost another S-300 system. This one in Mykolaiv. These are the real Ghosts of Kyiv... with the exception of at least three of them being lost or whatever I guess...
Lotta troops pulling occupation duty in Melitopol. Though it could just be certain areas of course. Still likely cuts down on problematic silliness like silly people thinking about random sniping or chucking molotov cocktails at anything. AND FREEDOM!
It looks like a significant fraction of the mighty Ukrainian Navy has been seized in the Port of Berdyansk on the Sea of Azov. How the Ukrainian Navy will recover from this blow... who knows?
According to the comments we got an armed Tug and some Soviet-era patrol boats in near mint condition... *coughs* All gun armed. None of those cool supersonic mega antiship missiles the Russians/Soviets have/had.
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Arlos
Sad Monarchist
Heard about that, « genius » idea as usual.
Just to give it a benefit of a doubt, saying it's "not off the table" sounds better then saying it is off the table IMHO. If some journalist is asking you a question, it's probably not wise to state your limits of responses right off the bat even if they do exist. Like I agree with Biden and everyone that there shouldn't be a no-fly zone or troops on the ground in Ukraine and Biden said that to shore up his base so it makes political sense perhaps that he made those statements, but the advantages of stating what your not going to do to Putin in response to whatever he does in Ukraine might have some ameliorating effect on Putin's paranoia or whatever theoretically, but your still telegraphing and offering up a literal framework of how freely Putin can operate.
Like when Putin spent much of the previous year assuring the world on not invading but then invading (the actual exact pretext being immaterial to the point here), or how the Russian government was very vague in responses as to what could happen to other countries if and when they interfered... Putin could've said he'd never use Nuclear Weapons or they are off the table if the West/NATO supplies arms to Ukraine... and he probably never would in most any conceivable scenario... but why bother saying that publicly? Instead he just says "Whoever tries to hinder us, and even more so, to create threats to our country, to our people, should know that Russia's response will be immediate. And it will lead you to such consequences that you have never encountered in your history." He didn't add... not Nuclear Weapons tho... those are off the table.
Again, sure saying some measures are off the table might put Putin at ease or make him more comfortable, but its also giving him more liberty and comfort to operate since instead of things likely being off the table due to practicality, we decided to just come out and say it so on the off chance NATO or Biden won't aggravate his sensibilities too much.
Very sad :
www.cnn.com
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Pregnant woman and her baby die after Mariupol maternity hospital bombing | CNN
A pregnant woman who was injured when a maternity hospital in the Ukrainian city of Mariupol was bombed on Wednesday has died, along with her newborn baby, a surgeon who was treating her confirmed on Monday.
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